interesting reading back through this thread with some hindsight

Cant see what the club has done wrong - seems like a positive move. The leaks from the club were that SW didn't have a future Internal rumblings from some players re game plan issues They waited until after draft to not unsettle recruits but ahead of preseason Pelchan would like to see one of "...

Hope we get Longer. I think he has the potential to be A grade. I saw a few of his games this year and his ruck work, particularly to Black, was very good. If we land him, I think he will go past Hickey very quickly. Also think Delaney could be a very serviceable and atleast as good an option as Mit...

I think he was played out of position at Brisbane due to them having a lot of similar types. perhaps he didn't have the tank for a midfield spot. To me he looked like a Grant Birchall type. He is tall (190)He seems good overhead, knows where the goals are and moves like a mid. Based on what I have s...

Having watched most of Brisbanes home games this year (living in Qld), I think Karnezis has been starved of opportunities. After a great NAB series, he was vested in his few senior appearances. He looks very comfortable when actually on the ground, and I thought looked to have a great future. I gues...

We went in one too many smalls. We have three small forwards that get a little lost going through the midfield. Beau is a third tall at best. I think Stanley needs to fill a hole down back. Not sure on Lee just yet. IMO If Hickey can step up, Ben could spend more time forward and he can mark and kic...

There are a few going early on Watters. Reality is we missed on a key defender preseason, we butchered the ball to often and Richmond got frees in the right places at the right time. Our backline was underdone and it showed.

evo wrote:

The Redeemer wrote:

Sobraz wrote:Does Gram's departure throw Raph a lifeline??

It better bloody well not.

Raph has survived 3 seasons too many and can bugger off.

+1 Could not put it more eloquently myself.

Raph can play - but needs to be forward of centre imo

Imagine being a Melbourne supporter. In last few years with Morton, then Gysberts at pick 11, Cook at 12, scully at 1 and none are at the club. from the outside it looks cultural so its worth taking a look at first rounders who might benefit from a better environment. Cook was drafted in 2010, has ...

Imagine being a Melbourne supporter. In last few years with Morton, then Gysberts at pick 11, Cook at 12, scully at 1 and none are at the club. from the outside it looks cultural so its worth taking a look at first rounders who might benefit from a better environment. Cook was drafted in 2010, has e...

We're in rebuild mode, its a 3 -4 year reload, therefore hard to judge at year one. i think we have recruited well so far and perhaps the monster backman is in one of the next drafts, who knows. I am happy we missed brown, as i would rather the draft picks. I am not sure why the raps on Brown, hasnt...

Brown Broughton Gysberts Jacobs Martin Frawley Etc, or somebody not mentioned already? I don't think we are finished trading yet! Would like to see Ray + a third rounder for Frawley . I think Brown for pick 26 is likely but is too great a cost imo Ray and a third rounder will never happen. If Melbo...

evo wrote:Brown
Broughton
Gysberts
Jacobs
Martin
Frawley
Etc, or somebody not mentioned already? I don't think we are finished trading yet!

Would like to see Ray + a third rounder for Frawley . I think Brown for pick 26 is likely but is too great a cost imo

plugger66 wrote:

Ralphy wrote:Dal will sign a contract he loves the saints.

Never heard that before. Ball and BJ dont come to mind.

Trouble is, under FA, players like Dal may want to stay but the club may not want him to.

imo, Kosi will benefit from less ruck time and is significantly ahead of Wilkes at the moment. We needed to plan for the retirements of Roo and Kosi and we have been light on for ruckmen since Gardiner retirement. I expect Kosi will get first crack round one and personally think he will grasp it. If...

Hansen dominated as a CHb at under age level and was taken at number 3. From what i have seen he hasnt quite made the transition to senior footy hence North open to trading him. Notsure what others see in him

The mids with the dominant ruckmen, knows where the ball is going, the others have to anticipate i.e. one team becomes offensive the other defensive. Great mids can anticipate the where the ball is going and get a scrubby, push foward clearance. Watching WCE, the have a number of runners that charge...

BJ is the tip of the iceberg, in time, we will see less passionate supporters - a bit like the NRL. I think genuine passion is what seperates the codes. Really? less passionate - I doubt it… bigger fish have left the Saints in the past… We all loved Hamill and Gehrig… now Dons fans will love BJ, go...

If we recruit someone from FA then we will be compensated less for losing BJ. Forget FA and build for the future in 5 years. I suspect the plan will be to pick up a bunch of young blokes who can challenge for a flag in 3-4 years time. Perhaps front load a few contracts and then top up with establis...

I'm pissed I was stupid enough to get number 18 and his last name of the back of my new jumper! Now I gotta fork out another $130.atleast ill be safe getting number 7 :p Oh no, not the name as well...was going to say you could wait and see who gets 18. :| Haha that would of been ok. I'll never put ...

Big preseason wraps on Koby from WA and was expected to play plenty of games. Justed needed some luck and a few key injuries at WCE to get a chance. i think he will be a great pick up.
Dont like losing Cripps though.

Agree on Plugger, probably in the top 4 of all time ( in any order - Carey, Ablett snr, Mathews fwiw),. Out of Harves and Lenny, its probably unfair to try and split them, but for the sake of the argument, i think Lenny JUST shades Harves in contested possession and disposal efficiency and tackling....

Raph Clarke to Hawthorn as a free agent I think there will be a bit of interest in Raph, to play in a different position though...Thinline alluded the other day that the Suns may have interest in playing him forward of centre as well. I don't know why we haven't tried him forward of centre. Love th...

Cant help but wonder what a difference a key defender and a quality tap ruckman to help a developing Ben would have made. Freeing up Fisher and Gwilt to run out of defence and first use from ruck contests to our gun midfield could have seen results go differently. Maybe even topr four. For 2013, th...

Cant help but wonder what a difference a key defender and a quality tap ruckman to help a developing Ben would have made. Freeing up Fisher and Gwilt to run out of defence and first use from ruck contests to our gun midfield could have seen results go differently. Maybe even topr four. For 2013, the...