Expected to see him play a few nab games but think he only played one.

With his foot skills expected to see him more prominent for senior selection.

Is he injured? If not, what deficiencies are keeping him from getting to ledger/cripps form level?

Thank goodness our season is over as for the most part there has been nothing good about it.

Whilst I'd like to think next year may see a step in the right direction, something tells me it's going to be a bumpy road ahead...

I disagree and Ill explain why If we scraped through for a win tonight everyone would have thought we are back on back and destined for greatness. The reality is that our team structure and players and game plan are out of form, outdated and simply not good enough. Losing tonight in the manner we di...

Wont be in our next grand final team but the draft pick we get for him might be.

For all our sakes lets hope so. As a lifelong supporter all I ask is this: 1. Please accept our premiership window has closed 2. Put together a plan so that in 2-3 years we can be contenders once again. If you have a plan then I am happy to be patient over the next few years as the list is rebuilt. ...

The way our year started our season was always going to end in a screaming heap. In some ways the end to this year is worse then 09 and 10 because as supporters we have copped s*** from our non stkilda friends for most of the year as a result of our poor form and off-field disasters. In 09 we were p...

On the assumption that the coaching staff know today what players they want to trade/delist at year end, at some point in time we need to start putting games into those younger players who are our future. The reality is the quicker we do this the quicker these kids will develop. There is really no p...

Here's a thought - what about Fisher at FF?

At least Siposs would get the 3rd best defender and have half a chance..

Here are some of my observations from tonight (and season so far) and a few ideas of what we can do right now to be more competitive. OBSERVATIONS 1. We are getting smashed in the centre clearances which means our opponents are getting more inside 50's 2. With more inside 50's our opponents are scor...

Car crash in an FJ Holden - no airbags supplied

* You can see something bad happening * You can't change the outcome * Being slow motion it takes forever (more painful) * You don't know when it is going to end When this car crash does finally end (I hope this year some time), let's hope that there are no fatalities and no serious long term njurie...

Congratulations on achieving this milestone.

Thanks for your contribution over the journey

Go Saints!!

Yes - my view of the world

I hope he stays for many years to come.

If the wheels really fall off our season in the next 1-2 months then we will need to stick together as a group - something that hasn't happened for 9 months...

The biggest issue seems to be that no one knows how to re-invigorate the mindset of those players still affected the the 09/10 GF losses. The assumption seems to be that the issue is temporary and that things will change back to normal at some stage. The first 5 weeks of this year shows how much of ...

fair point BM

The main issue we have with this is we don't have the mental strength to cope with this s***...

Most of our players are mentally struggling with climbing the mountain again let alone the continual media circus we see here..

When fit Stanley has to be a backup option.

Let's hope MG comes back very soon, otherwise this must be a priority in trade week..

No point drafting a kid (eg Macca) as they take too long to develop

Agree BB re onfield but also referring to rest of onfield plus off field as well..

My point is that Ross Lyon will walk away from St Kilda and coach at another club if our club does not get it's s*** together off field In the last two months Robert Walls and Paul Roos (both friends of RL) have commented to this effect. We need RL to help rebuild but he may walk away. And for those...

For many years we didn't have much of it.. We made back to back Grand Finals in 09/10 because of it.. In all areas on St Kilda FC, where has our leadership gone since 10 GF? Leadership is tangible human quality which once obtained you have for life.. If our leaders at St Kilda FC are not prepared to...

In my view this outcome is now as certain as death and taxes. To give so much for the last 4 and half years and see the way we have disintegrated off field and on field must make him question if we really have the desire and will and commitment to succeed. I hope that we get our s*** together off fi...

BB, In addition to being our best player #7 was the only player this year who MOVED ON from last year.

Our greatest loss this year is not his football ability but his onfield leadership.

We don't have any onfield leaders at the moment...

If they are part of the future then lets keep playing them.

Each game they play is one step closer to being better footballers..

Gilberts problems are all above the shoulders, like many of his team mates...

Spinner

Supporters demand and expect 100% effort 100% of the time.

If we got that tonight there would be 1/4 of the people on this forum tonight..