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I had to laugh when Mick thought that by inviting Waite around to dinner it was consent that he would not leave Carlton. The term Narcissistic Personality Disorder springs to mind.
busso mick wrote:I had to laugh when Mick thought that by inviting Waite around to dinner it was consent that he would not leave Carlton. The term Narcissistic Personality Disorder springs to mind.
Have to agree - i laughed when I read that. Maybe it proves Jarad had genuinely not made up his mind and wanted to decide after hed spoken with Mick and heard what he had to say.
Then when Mick was a complete c*** <edited by mods, user warned> to him at dinner it helped him make up his mind.
Just ridiculous how one sided he sees it - as if hes so great that just asking someone to his house means that should be loyal to him for life.
busso mick wrote:I had to laugh when Mick thought that by inviting Waite around to dinner it was consent that he would not leave Carlton. The term Narcissistic Personality Disorder springs to mind.
Have to agree - i laughed when I read that. Maybe it proves Jarad had genuinely not made up his mind and wanted to decide after hed spoken with Mick and heard what he had to say.
Then when Mick was a complete c*unt to him at dinner it helped him make up his mind.
Just ridiculous how one sided he sees it - as if hes so great that just asking someone to his house means that should be loyal to him for life.
And Buckley not exactly a standout performer, although I think he will end up ok
I would think at least 95% of coaches are sacked so that doesn't mean too much in the scheme of things.
95% of coaches are sacked in the end but not 95% of coaches are that drastically unsuccessful. So these guy are surely tracking way below average.
Their combined winning percentage must be around the 30% mark.
busso mick wrote:I had to laugh when Mick thought that by inviting Waite around to dinner it was consent that he would not leave Carlton. The term Narcissistic Personality Disorder springs to mind.
I take ur point but Narcisstic PD is out of the DSM
busso mick wrote:I had to laugh when Mick thought that by inviting Waite around to dinner it was consent that he would not leave Carlton. The term Narcissistic Personality Disorder springs to mind.
I take ur point but Narcisstic PD is out of the DSM
Quite funny really. Waite said pretty much all year he wanted 2 years.
The Blues would only give him 1 and Norf offered him two - pretty straight fwd when it comes down to it.
Mick then said - we'll only you give one year but to make up for it you can come to my house for dinner. It will be a real treat! Heck we can even have ice cream for dessert!As though somehow one dinner was an equal to an extra years contract.
Then when that wasn't accepted Mick had a tantrum. Odd behaviour again from Mick. I do wonder if he is losing his marbles slightly.
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Malthouse's has always been a bit of an oddball, just as is Clarkson, Blight, and I guess they can just point to their premiership cups as coaches and say .."what's your point exactly?"
spert wrote:Malthouse's has always been a bit of an oddball, just as is Clarkson, Blight, and I guess they can just point to their premiership cups as coaches and say .."what's your point exactly?"
Well I reckon there is something to this.
Love him or loathe him I dont think anyone can deny that Mick is own man. He doesnt try to be anyone else. Never has. Never will.
He might be an old ball but hes his own oddball.
With the 'Mick lites' - it seems they are trying to be someone they are not. People like Watters who try and act like someone else or 'assert their authority' like they have seen Mick do it - just comes across as fake and try-hard. And the moment that happens you can be sure the players will think of you as a flog.
You cant fake the tough guy act if its not you. You just to have be yourself. I think players really respect that more than someone trying live up to some act or idea.
Here is a post I did when Watters was sacked, at the time I discussed Watters and Neeld
Seems all his assistants seem to be falling on Mick's philosophy
I remember mighty Mick stating on a footy show that he had advised Watters and Neeld to take over every possible aspect of their clubs and maintain tight control of everything.
At the time I was a bit shocked and wondered how anyone with any decent, personell and management skills could hang on to such an outdated and draconian model?
He went on to glowingly praise both his assistance in their roles at Collywobbles and said he knew they would both make excellent senior coaches.
After watching Neelds video (when he invited the media into a team meeting) it became obvious that he knew nothing, his speech to the players was so embarrassing it was obvious he inadvertently stamped his papers to be removed.
While I wondered about Watters on the outside, he portrayed a good persona and seemed extremely likeable
His two "products", probably only got their gigs, due to Malthouse's glowing recommendations and a very lucky bounce denying Milne a goal, and us a premiership
On the face of recent events it seems Watters took Mick literally and he set out to become general of the club, he fell on his sword , I will be honest and say that from my prospective Watters seemed to be the sort of coach to grow a young list. Statements from Dermie also convinced me there was something good going forward.
Seems I could not be more wrong.
At least we are moving forward before a complete disaster !
And the president said " I did not have sex with that woman"
And our former president said " Football is like golf"
spert wrote:Tail wagging the dog- always been the problem at St Kilda, and Watters was just another victim of that.
SW was a victim of his own stupidity based on everything I have heard from those who would know and also what others have written here from those who seem to know. Glad he is gone. Employing people without telling the board. Playing an injured Saad when other selectors said no. losing most players young and old. Losing his staff. If that's tail wagging the dog then thank god.
Actually thought McKenna was incredibly hard done by, if Ablett hadn't got injured and they played finals, there's no way he would have got the chop. Now they are in limbo as to whether they get Thompson, which I hope they do and completely screw the East Germans up.
Also thought the Lions dropped Voss in the vague hope they were going to snare Roos.
As for Watters, yeah the more I hear behind the scene the happier I am he's gone.
