Players running club...

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
SainterK
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 21057
Joined: Thu 14 Aug 2008 9:53pm
Location: Melb

Players running club...

Post: # 1411943Post SainterK »

Is being painted by quite a few.

Fair?

Interesting discussion anyhow.


User avatar
Spinner
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8502
Joined: Sat 02 Dec 2006 3:40pm
Location: Victoria
Has thanked: 185 times
Been thanked: 133 times

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1411946Post Spinner »

Who knows.

Its all speculation.

All I know is that the jungle drums were beating hard but people try to take aim without knowning anything.


User avatar
Selhurst Saint
Club Player
Posts: 1758
Joined: Thu 19 Aug 2004 9:09am
Location: I do like to be beside the seaside
Been thanked: 35 times

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1411965Post Selhurst Saint »

That's "My St.Kilda".........


"...If there has been one recurring theme through this whole shocking mess, it has been the misguided, inflated egos and their ill-judged determination to cling to long-standing old boy friendships. The bad advice that has guided the selfish and culpable James Hird has not only punctuated this saga but symbolised it..."
User avatar
dragit
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 13047
Joined: Tue 29 Jun 2010 11:56am
Has thanked: 605 times
Been thanked: 315 times

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1411968Post dragit »

Nettlefold wanted Watters sacked...

We have just had a full review...

Watters & Pelchen were not even speaking.

A brand new president has signed off on this sacking, so I can't see how the players are running the club...


User avatar
Con Gorozidis
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 23532
Joined: Thu 19 Jun 2008 4:04pm
Has thanked: 100 times
Been thanked: 78 times

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1411977Post Con Gorozidis »

SainterK wrote:Is being painted by quite a few.

Fair?

Interesting discussion anyhow.
literally the coach is Harvey is appointed coach.

dwarfgate
sooking over the b & f speech
holiday gate

seems the less bright players are indeed running the joint.


kalsaint
Club Player
Posts: 1941
Joined: Sat 24 Apr 2004 10:24pm
Location: Perth WA
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 19 times

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1412027Post kalsaint »

dragit wrote:Nettlefold wanted Watters sacked...

We have just had a full review...

Watters & Pelchen were not even speaking.

A brand new president has signed off on this sacking, so I can't see how the players are running the club...
Brand new president has been around for about a month. This decision was warranted 6 months ago if rumours of Pechen and Watters warring are true.

Problem has been Leadership. If Nettlefold wanted change why didn't he do something about it? Neglect in duty.


Welcome new President. We need you.


Midfield clearances and clear winners are needed to make an effective forward line.

You need to protect the ball handler to increase posession efficiency
saintspremiers
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 25303
Joined: Tue 01 Feb 2005 4:25pm
Location: Trump Tower
Has thanked: 142 times
Been thanked: 284 times

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1412032Post saintspremiers »

kalsaint wrote:
dragit wrote:Nettlefold wanted Watters sacked...

We have just had a full review...

Watters & Pelchen were not even speaking.

A brand new president has signed off on this sacking, so I can't see how the players are running the club...
Brand new president has been around for about a month. This decision was warranted 6 months ago if rumours of Pechen and Watters warring are true.

Problem has been Leadership. If Nettlefold wanted change why didn't he do something about it? Neglect in duty.


Welcome new President. We need you.
But why wasn't Casper knifed?


i am Melbourne Skies - sometimes Blue Skies, Grey Skies, even Partly Cloudy Skies.
SainterK
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 21057
Joined: Thu 14 Aug 2008 9:53pm
Location: Melb

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1412034Post SainterK »

Watters dismissed the clubs recent "success" as a collective, they didn't like hearing it.

Makes you wonder with the Roo/joey persistent links to other clubs...they wouldn't of, would they?

Him or us stuff?


User avatar
Johnny Member
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4157
Joined: Thu 05 Oct 2006 12:27pm
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1412089Post Johnny Member »

Did you hear Fine's story about Saad?

If it's true, then it seems that this isn't simply a case of the players being huffy with him. It does sound like a scenario where due to his own doing, he was making his own position untenable.


SainterK
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 21057
Joined: Thu 14 Aug 2008 9:53pm
Location: Melb

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1412100Post SainterK »

Johnny Member wrote:Did you hear Fine's story about Saad?

If it's true, then it seems that this isn't simply a case of the players being huffy with him. It does sound like a scenario where due to his own doing, he was making his own position untenable.
No

Can you enlighten me?


User avatar
Johnny Member
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4157
Joined: Thu 05 Oct 2006 12:27pm
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1412104Post Johnny Member »

Saad had been dropped to the 2s. He played for Sandy, had 7 touches and did his quad. He was placed on the 'No Training' list. Then later that week he was busted by ASADA.

They selected a squad of 25 players to go to Brisbane, and of course due to his form, injury and the ASADA thing Saad wasn't included.

The CEO announced publicly that Saad wouldn't play.

But when the CEO took the Thursday and Friday off, Watters included him! None of the players knew, nor did his assistants and clearly the CEO and club didn't!

The players were feral on it.


Fine described it as not an isolated type of thing, but the other stories he wouldn't repeat.


SainterK
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 21057
Joined: Thu 14 Aug 2008 9:53pm
Location: Melb

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1412108Post SainterK »

I thought he was given a goodbye game, cause his career was likely over....
Last edited by SainterK on Fri 01 Nov 2013 3:09pm, edited 1 time in total.


joffaboy
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 20200
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 1:57pm
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1412113Post joffaboy »

Rita Panahi ran with it so it must be completely legit.


Lance or James??

There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1412119Post plugger66 »

I got a text off a player today suggesting strange timing. That doesnt sound like he is running the club. Doesnt mean others arent running it but i have my doubts.


thejiggingsaint
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 9357
Joined: Wed 03 Aug 2005 10:01pm
Has thanked: 634 times
Been thanked: 473 times

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1412123Post thejiggingsaint »

And we ALL know how fair and reasonable that lady is!


St Kilda forever 🔴⚪️⚫️ ( God help me)
SainterK
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 21057
Joined: Thu 14 Aug 2008 9:53pm
Location: Melb

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1412124Post SainterK »

joffaboy wrote:Rita Panahi ran with it so it must be completely legit.
Who?


User avatar
Dr Spaceman
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 14102
Joined: Thu 24 Sep 2009 11:07pm
Location: Newtown Institute of Saintology
Has thanked: 104 times
Been thanked: 62 times

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1412138Post Dr Spaceman »

Trouble is that the comment "players running the club" can mean many things. Usually it's regarded as a bad thing; as the tail wagging the dog etc. Of players refusing to accept discipline.

However what if someone in power at the club has lost the plot or has become overwhelmed by power and is either ruining the club or at least making life unbearable for those under him? If the players act then that falls under that "players running the club" heading. But in those circumstances it wouldn't be a bad thing.


User avatar
Mr Magic
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12701
Joined: Fri 04 May 2007 9:38am
Has thanked: 717 times
Been thanked: 401 times

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1412143Post Mr Magic »

Johnny Member wrote:Saad had been dropped to the 2s. He played for Sandy, had 7 touches and did his quad. He was placed on the 'No Training' list. Then later that week he was busted by ASADA.

They selected a squad of 25 players to go to Brisbane, and of course due to his form, injury and the ASADA thing Saad wasn't included.

The CEO announced publicly that Saad wouldn't play.

But when the CEO took the Thursday and Friday off, Watters included him! None of the players knew, nor did his assistants and clearly the CEO and club didn't!

The players were feral on it.


Fine described it as not an isolated type of thing, but the other stories he wouldn't repeat.
Pretty accurate synopsis of what Fine said at about 2pm today.
I must say I was gobsmacked listening to it.
If it's true (and I have no way of stating if it is/isn't) then that is a very bad indictment of Watters and his relationships with players, coaches and officials.


User avatar
saintsRrising
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 30058
Joined: Mon 15 Mar 2004 11:07am
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 704 times
Been thanked: 1219 times

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1412150Post saintsRrising »

SainterK wrote:Is being painted by quite a few.

Fair?

Interesting discussion anyhow.
Unfair.

No Pelchen is. That is why Watters is gone and not any coup from the players.

Watters was not up to it. The players dealt with him and so knew this. But Pelchen is the one calling the shots.

Good Call, Fair Call, Needed Call.


Flying the World in comfort thanks to FF Points....
sunsaint
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5212
Joined: Mon 07 Aug 2006 9:50pm
Location: Queensland - Beautiful one day ... you know the rest
Has thanked: 65 times
Been thanked: 318 times

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1412191Post sunsaint »

plugger66 wrote:I got a text off a player today suggesting strange timing. That doesnt sound like he is running the club. Doesnt mean others arent running it but i have my doubts.
i am not at all surprised this occured AFTER 2014 membership renewals were deducted


Seeya
*************
plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1412193Post plugger66 »

sunsaint wrote:
plugger66 wrote:I got a text off a player today suggesting strange timing. That doesnt sound like he is running the club. Doesnt mean others arent running it but i have my doubts.
i am not at all surprised this occured AFTER 2014 membership renewals were deducted

Im not surprised that it occured after the trade period but the player who sent it to me was surprised it occured at all.


User avatar
stinger
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 38126
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 9:06pm
Location: Australia.

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1412196Post stinger »

Johnny Member wrote:Saad had been dropped to the 2s. He played for Sandy, had 7 touches and did his quad. He was placed on the 'No Training' list. Then later that week he was busted by ASADA.

They selected a squad of 25 players to go to Brisbane, and of course due to his form, injury and the ASADA thing Saad wasn't included.

The CEO announced publicly that Saad wouldn't play.

But when the CEO took the Thursday and Friday off, Watters included him! None of the players knew, nor did his assistants and clearly the CEO and club didn't!

The players were feral on it.


Fine described it as not an isolated type of thing, but the other stories he wouldn't repeat.
wtf was the ceo doing taking two days off mid week during the footy season??? :roll:


.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will

"Freedom of expression is the cornerstone of a free society,"

However, freedom of expression is not encouraged in certain forums.
clarky449
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4107
Joined: Sat 05 Apr 2008 12:29am
Location: Melbourne

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1412200Post clarky449 »

stinger wrote:
Johnny Member wrote:Saad had been dropped to the 2s. He played for Sandy, had 7 touches and did his quad. He was placed on the 'No Training' list. Then later that week he was busted by ASADA.

They selected a squad of 25 players to go to Brisbane, and of course due to his form, injury and the ASADA thing Saad wasn't included.

The CEO announced publicly that Saad wouldn't play.

But when the CEO took the Thursday and Friday off, Watters included him! None of the players knew, nor did his assistants and clearly the CEO and club didn't!

The players were feral on it.


Fine described it as not an isolated type of thing, but the other stories he wouldn't repeat.
wtf was the ceo doing taking two days off mid week during the footy season??? :roll:
Uh well people have lifes outside football, we don't know what those leave days were taken for and its none of our business..


Follow me for my expert opinions on Twitter @DanielClark93
plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1412203Post plugger66 »

stinger wrote:
Johnny Member wrote:Saad had been dropped to the 2s. He played for Sandy, had 7 touches and did his quad. He was placed on the 'No Training' list. Then later that week he was busted by ASADA.

They selected a squad of 25 players to go to Brisbane, and of course due to his form, injury and the ASADA thing Saad wasn't included.

The CEO announced publicly that Saad wouldn't play.

But when the CEO took the Thursday and Friday off, Watters included him! None of the players knew, nor did his assistants and clearly the CEO and club didn't!

The players were feral on it.


Fine described it as not an isolated type of thing, but the other stories he wouldn't repeat.
wtf was the ceo doing taking two days off mid week during the footy season??? :roll:

I hope you are joking. Seriously I cant believe what I read sometimes.


User avatar
stinger
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 38126
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 9:06pm
Location: Australia.

Re: Players running club...

Post: # 1412208Post stinger »

clarky449 wrote:
stinger wrote:
Johnny Member wrote:Saad had been dropped to the 2s. He played for Sandy, had 7 touches and did his quad. He was placed on the 'No Training' list. Then later that week he was busted by ASADA.

They selected a squad of 25 players to go to Brisbane, and of course due to his form, injury and the ASADA thing Saad wasn't included.

The CEO announced publicly that Saad wouldn't play.

But when the CEO took the Thursday and Friday off, Watters included him! None of the players knew, nor did his assistants and clearly the CEO and club didn't!

The players were feral on it.


Fine described it as not an isolated type of thing, but the other stories he wouldn't repeat.
wtf was the ceo doing taking two days off mid week during the footy season??? :roll:
Uh well people have lifes outside football, we don't know what those leave days were taken for and its none of our business..
not the done thing imhfo..irresponsible ..plenty of time to take leave at other times of the year


.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will

"Freedom of expression is the cornerstone of a free society,"

However, freedom of expression is not encouraged in certain forums.
Post Reply