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A Good Trade Period

Post: # 1408957Post ace »

We started with what after the free agency compensation was
Nick Dal Santo
Ben McEvoy
Pick 3
Pick 24
Pick 41
Pick 59
Pick 77
Pick 3 in Pre Season Draft

Now we have
Shane Savage
Billy Longer
Josh Bruce
Luke Delaney
Pick 3
Pick 18
Pick 19
Pick 3 in Pre Season Draft

We also have picks 95, 113 etc for any rookie upgrades.


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Yeah congrats Saints excellent work !


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Will we go after anyone in the psd?Who"s available ?


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The pelican has weaved his magic..


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Post: # 1408969Post gringo »

PADDLEPOP1001 wrote:Will we go after anyone in the psd?Who"s available ?

there was talk of Maverick Weller.


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maxdis 42 wrote:The pelican has weaved his magic..

He has done very well but there is no magic until at least 2 of those guys become A grade or very close to it.


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We presently have only 2 National Draft picks activated.
That means 1 player must be cut to accommodate National Draft pick No 19.
Another player will need to be cut to accommodate Pre Season Draft pick No 3.

Then if any permanent rookie upgrades are to be made additional cuts are necessary.


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We won't have many spots on our list unless we do some culling.


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This has been the first genuinely successful trade period for us in a long time. It's a bit rough saying goodbye to McEvoy and Dal, but we're going to be a much stronger team in 4-5 years time thanks to the moves made over the past three weeks


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ace wrote:We presently have only 2 National Draft picks activated.
That means 1 player must be cut to accommodate National Draft pick No 19.
Another player will need to be cut to accommodate Pre Season Draft pick No 3.

Then if any permanent rookie upgrades are to be made additional cuts are necessary.
We definitely need to get Curren on our list so there will be at least two further delistings.


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mad saint guy wrote:This has been the first genuinely successful trade period for us in a long time. It's a bit rough saying goodbye to McEvoy and Dal, but we're going to be a much stronger team in 4-5 years time thanks to the moves made over the past three weeks
Still think last year was ok when you consider the total number of players gained.


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Post: # 1408984Post andrewg »

Add billingsto the list on top of another mid?.
Plus next years high draft pick......maybe we will be the juggernaut! Scotty talked about


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Post: # 1408988Post saintsRrising »

Great effort by Pelchen and Co.

I would still have preferred a young mid rather than Longer (as my preference is you grab a good ruckman once you are in the Premiership Window, as opposed to highly rated kids who have 5 years to go and may never make it - plus a lot of good ruckman come from lowly or rookie backgrounds anyway). however there are big raps on Longer.

However leaving that aside we have gained 2 more picks inside the top 20 where there is still some real quality young picks, plus with Savage, Longer, Bruce and Delaney have made our list a lot better balanced overall.

One has to commend Pelchen on his ability to do very good deals, and to clear have a solid long term recruiting strategy, rather than the overly simplistic "best available" that some favour. Instead we have a good mix of targeting and recruiting for needs, and can then go best available with 3 well positioned picks.


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Post: # 1408991Post Con Gorozidis »

Im pretty impressed.
He said we would be 'aggressive'
He said there would be two bombshells
He said we would target 3 top 20 picks.

Everything came true. Well done. I dont think trade time is easy on anyone.

Now we need Tony Elshaugh to shine with his 3 picks!

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saintsRrising wrote:
mad saint guy wrote:This has been the first genuinely successful trade period for us in a long time. It's a bit rough saying goodbye to McEvoy and Dal, but we're going to be a much stronger team in 4-5 years time thanks to the moves made over the past three weeks
Still think last year was ok when you consider the total number of players gained.
I think we have to look at the trade period as 9 weeks over three years.
Then it looks like

Hickey
Wright
White
Lee
Bruce
Delany
Longer
Savage
+ high draft picks 2013/14
+ big free agent signing 2015

Any doubts over Pelchans ability to attract talent and manage a list should be squashed......let jump on board this juggernaut train.

(I refuse to add TDL to list due to his inability yo play AFL football properly)


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Post: # 1409028Post markp »

Very exciting results for us, and still more to come... certainly looking forward to the start of the season more than I have in the last few years.


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ace wrote:We presently have only 2 National Draft picks activated.
That means 1 player must be cut to accommodate National Draft pick No 19.
Another player will need to be cut to accommodate Pre Season Draft pick No 3.

Then if any permanent rookie upgrades are to be made additional cuts are necessary.

Oops miscount, but it is OK, the team score is not reduced to zero.
We have one less player.
We presently have all 3 National Draft picks 3, 18 & 19 activated.
That means 0 players must be cut to accommodate all our National Draft picks.
Another player will need to be cut to accommodate Pre Season Draft pick No 3.
Possibly Ahmed Saad being dropped and then added to the rookie list while he serves his time.

Then if any permanent rookie upgrades are to be made with National draft picks 95, 113 etc additional cuts are necessary.


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ace wrote:
ace wrote:We presently have only 2 National Draft picks activated.
That means 1 player must be cut to accommodate National Draft pick No 19.
Another player will need to be cut to accommodate Pre Season Draft pick No 3.

Then if any permanent rookie upgrades are to be made additional cuts are necessary.

Oops miscount, but it is OK, the team score is not reduced to zero.
We have one less player.
We presently have all 3 National Draft picks 3, 18 & 19 activated.
That means 0 players must be cut to accommodate all our National Draft picks.
Another player will need to be cut to accommodate Pre Season Draft pick No 3.
Possibly Ahmed Saad being dropped and then added to the rookie list while he serves his time.

Then if any permanent rookie upgrades are to be made with National draft picks 95, 113 etc additional cuts are necessary.

Well Curran has to be ungraded so we need to delist one player or make them a rookie. Saad will be delisted i would think.


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Post: # 1409035Post Ned Stark »

A very impressive performance by the Pelican and co. Bold, intelligent, strategic: words I have rarely associated with our management in the past.

I was initially upset to lose Dal - one of my all time favourite Saints - but, viewing the entirety of the trading shows the move was perfect for the club and he won't be taking up game time from Seb Ross, Nate Wright or Billy Hartung (I watched the video and was immediately taken by him: looks like Jason Gram at his peak, except he can actually hit a target! I hope we can we get him at pick 19...).

For once we will be reading about St Kilda as the winners in the trade period after the Ball and Lovett debacles in recent years. Though, as an aside, I think Collingwood slightly shaded us by snaring Adams, 6 and 10, setting themselves up to be top 4 for the next 5 years in the process.

Now we just need to nail these picks. No Brad Howard smokies please. Happy to be conservative and pick the consensus best at each point, so ignore my musings on Billy Hartung above.


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Post: # 1409037Post Little Dozer »

Couldn't be happier! A great trade year!!

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Post: # 1409038Post Wayne42 »

Curren has been signed for 1 or 2 years so they will have to find him a spot on the list.

I've lost track on who has been culled and who has been recruited and how many more spots we need on the list to make
all the planned changes. Can anyone give us a summary of the post season action so far, including Curren and picks 3, 18 and 19.


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The ones that count:
Nick Dal Santo
Ben McEvoy
Pick 3
Pick 24
Pick 41

turned in to:

Shane Savage
Billy Longer
Josh Bruce
Luke Delaney
Pick 3
Pick 18
Pick 19

Out goes two players, pick 24 and 41. In comes four players, pick 18 and 19.
How the hell does he do it? :mrgreen:


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Anyone else looking forward to a savage Bruce Lee hickey?


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Munga wrote:The ones that count:
Nick Dal Santo
Ben McEvoy
Pick 3
Pick 24
Pick 41

turned in to:

Shane Savage
Billy Longer
Josh Bruce
Luke Delaney
Pick 3
Pick 18
Pick 19

Out goes two players, pick 24 and 41. In comes four players, pick 18 and 19.
How the hell does he do it? :mrgreen:
Very good question


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duckduckduckgoose wrote:Anyone else looking forward to a savage Bruce Lee hickey?
you just caused me to spit out my coffee ... well done :lol:


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