Ray!

[samoht]

Played very well vs Adelaide.
Takes strong, contested marks and provides us with much needed run and carry and throws himself into contests.
He's a very under-rated player, who deserves more of a go - I always preferred him over Gram.

[stinger]

Played very well vs Adelaide.
Takes strong, contested marks and provides us with much needed run and carry.
He's a very underated player who deserves more of a go!!!!

agree with your comments

[Con Gorozidis]

I have a lot of time for him.
Very glad he didnt go to the Demons.
At his peak and I hope he plays a lot of games in the next 2 years.

[matrix]

great overhead mark in traffic for a small guy
should be in 22 imo

[magnifisaint]

great overhead mark in traffic for a small guy
should be in 22 imo

He's not small

[SainterK]

Not convinced he makes it in, and if he does at who's expense?

Seemed to be playing Grams role, is that right?

[matrix]

great overhead mark in traffic for a small guy
should be in 22 imo

He's not small

shorter than me

[samoht]

Seems to be a decent guy who gets the job done with little fanfare ... and plenty of commitment.
Someone who throws himself into the fray... that's Ray.
Sets a good example.
S...

[saintsRrising]

Played very well vs Adelaide.
Takes strong, contested marks and provides us with much needed run and carry and throws himself into contests.
He's a very under-rated player, who deserves more of a go - I always preferred him over Gram.

Agree.

Should be in our 22.

He was very much a key to our win over Adelaide.

He fell out of favour with the coach last year, and tossed if I know why.

Spoke to him a couple of times, and he was to much of a gentlemen to say anything negative against the club as to him not getting games. But you could see in his eyes the hurt.

[jays]

he will play more this year

[bergholt]

Not convinced he makes it in, and if he does at who's expense?

Seemed to be playing Grams role, is that right?

Yeah, kinda looked like it. Maybe they're building a medium-size backline, something like:

FB: Gwilt, Simpkin, Fisher, Geary
HB: Ray, Dempster, Siposs

The FB line are basically defensive, the HB line are basically midfielders. Every player except Geary between 187 and 191cm. Other options if required are Gilbert, Blake, Roberton, Dunell, Newnes.

[sunsaint]

Not convinced he makes it in, and if he does at who's expense?

Seemed to be playing Grams role, is that right?

Im on the same page with this one
I dont think he is startup 22 & will be holding up game development if he does
& I still believe we are going to be small and light this year against the competition
I also believed we would draft backline talent at the end of 2012 - so what would i know

[dragit]

I can't fit him into our backline,

But he had a couple of ripper games off the wing last year, in run-with roles… so maybe he can play more there?

[damienc]

I have a lot of time for him.
Very glad he didnt go to the Demons.
At his peak and I hope he plays a lot of games in the next 2 years.

Amen to that. It is great to see him play well as we know he can. Maybe he will get a new lease of life with the departure of Gram?

[skeptic]

despite not playing much last season, he really improved the defincies in his game

didn't really think he was that good but is currently starting 22 for mine if he maintains that imrovement

GO RAY

[SainterK]

I also believed we would draft backline talent at the end of 2012 - so what would i know

You and me both, but we're encouraged to have faith in 'pelchen and co'

[paddy]

I agree, felt he was pretty hard done by last year, but got the feeling it was just that he wasn't as good as the players keeping him out....

would easily be in the best 22 at many other clubs

[desertsaint]

he will play more this year

hope so - should've played more last year.
underrated.

[bigcarl]

Played very well vs Adelaide.
Takes strong, contested marks and provides us with much needed run and carry and throws himself into contests.
He's a very under-rated player, who deserves more of a go - I always preferred him over Gram.

Agree. His future looked cloudy last season. I'm glad he's still with us. Total pro

[Wrote for Luck]

takes Gram's spot for me and is a big improvement. he can run, carry, mark, tackle, tag and looks a handsome combination with Roberton.

[plugger66]

takes Gram's spot for me and is a big improvement. he can run, carry, mark, tackle, tag and looks a handsome combination with Roberton.

How do both of them fit into your side. Ray is a GOP. You need GOPS just not to many. I see him as a player who will play occasionally.

[BigMart]

6'2"

Is a lot taller than you think.

Poor disposal is a factor, but he's a solid performer. Far too good for VFL.

[Old Mate]

Roberton listed on the saints website at 194cm in height....A lot taller than I thought but looks to play a lot shorter.

[St Ick]

takes Gram's spot for me and is a big improvement. he can run, carry, mark, tackle, tag and looks a handsome combination with Roberton.

How do both of them fit into your side. Ray is a GOP. You need GOPS just not to many. I see him as a player who will play occasionally.

Ray plays ahead of Gilbert at the moment (who concerns me). Rotates through the wing/midfield. He is so underrated its not funny. Better than GOP I reckon, in the right age bracket too which is important going fwd.

[bigcarl]

Ray is a GOP.

He's a bit better than that I reckon. His best is very good.