Gaertner quitting sees another list management blunder!

WinnersOnly · Mon 06 Dec 2010 9:28am

Gaertner quitting has seen another list management blunder !!! We now have Rookie picks 24, 41, 57 and then Jackson Ferguson (NSW Schol).

Surely if the Gaertner was a sceptical starter they would have approached him well before the third and final list lodgement date, to ensure he was committed to going on.

As it stands with him quitting we will have an unfilled rookie position carried over for the season.

To me this is a major blunder that shouldn't occur in a professional environment. It is another position that our recruiters could have filled and raised the odds of picking up another successful player through the rookie lists.

RL talks about small percentile gains - well that is another down the Drain!

Not good enough SAINTS !!!

rodgerfox · Post: # 1027692Post **rodgerfox** » Mon 06 Dec 2010 9:31am

Good to see the 'modern football department' paying dividends.

St Lenny · Post: # 1027696Post **St Lenny** » Mon 06 Dec 2010 9:38am

As I have no idea what "really" happened, I won't pass judgement. It wasn't to many years ago we didn't even have any rookies, so I don't think I will loose any sleep over this and just trust the club have a reasonable idea of whats going on.

saintlee · Post: # 1027697Post **saintlee** » Mon 06 Dec 2010 9:38am

WinnersOnly wrote:Gaertner quitting has seen another list management blunder !!! We now have Rookie picks 24, 41, 57 and then Jackson Ferguson (NSW Schol).

Surely if the Gaertner was a sceptical starter they would have approached him well before the third and final list lodgement date, to ensure he was committed to going on.

As it stands with him quitting we will have an unfilled rookie position carried over for the season.

To me this is a major blunder that shouldn't occur in a professional environment. It is another position that our recruiters could have filled and raised the odds of picking up another successful player through the rookie lists.

RL talks about small percentile gains - well that is another down the Drain!

Not good enough SAINTS !!!

As I understand it, Gaertner only indicated his desire to quit at a late stage, and the Saints wanted him to stay, which further added to the late decision to leave.

Its hardly a major blunder. Its one rookie spot, we still have numerous kids on our main list and then 3 or 4 rookie spots. Its a minor hiccup in my view.

saintlee · Post: # 1027698Post **saintlee** » Mon 06 Dec 2010 9:39am

St Lenny wrote:As I have no idea what "really" happened, I won't pass judgement. It wasn't to many years ago we didn't even have any rookies, so I don't think I will loose any sleep over this and just trust the club have a reasonable idea of whats going on.

Exactly, this thread is a total overreaction

bergholt · Post: # 1027701Post **bergholt** » Mon 06 Dec 2010 9:47am

saintlee wrote:Its hardly a major blunder. Its one rookie spot, we still have numerous kids on our main list and then 3 or 4 rookie spots. Its a minor hiccup in my view.

ideally, we would have all our rookie spots filled, as it's pretty obvious that many clubs get good benefit from their rookie list, including us. that said, last year we were two rookies short, as we had to include allen and l fisher. with those two gone, but wasting a spot on gaertner, we're still ahead of the curve.

Dr Spaceman · Mon 06 Dec 2010 9:56am

saintlee wrote:
St Lenny wrote:As I have no idea what "really" happened, I won't pass judgement. It wasn't to many years ago we didn't even have any rookies, so I don't think I will loose any sleep over this and just trust the club have a reasonable idea of whats going on.
Exactly, this thread is a total overreaction

Gaertner was a far better prospect than whoever it is we may have rookied with the now gone pick.

Makes perfect sense to give him a chance to sort things out, rather than "quick let's cut him coz the List lodgements due tomorrow".

These things happen. It's not a deal, let alone a big deal!

borderbarry · Mon 06 Dec 2010 9:57am

The thread is incorrect. We have the same amount of rookie picks now as before he resigned, it makes no difference to the picks. There is now an extra rookie position vacant.

joffaboy · Post: # 1027707Post **joffaboy** » Mon 06 Dec 2010 10:06am

WinnersOnly wrote:Gaertner quitting has seen another list management blunder !!! We now have Rookie picks 24, 41, 57 and then Jackson Ferguson (NSW Schol).

Surely if the Gaertner was a sceptical starter they would have approached him well before the third and final list lodgement date, to ensure he was committed to going on.

As it stands with him quitting we will have an unfilled rookie position carried over for the season.

To me this is a major blunder that shouldn't occur in a professional environment. It is another position that our recruiters could have filled and raised the odds of picking up another successful player through the rookie lists.

RL talks about small percentile gains - well that is another down the Drain!

Not good enough SAINTS !!!

All is lost.

Dr Spaceman · Mon 06 Dec 2010 10:35am

joffaboy wrote:
WinnersOnly wrote:Gaertner quitting has seen another list management blunder !!! We now have Rookie picks 24, 41, 57 and then Jackson Ferguson (NSW Schol).

Surely if the Gaertner was a sceptical starter they would have approached him well before the third and final list lodgement date, to ensure he was committed to going on.

As it stands with him quitting we will have an unfilled rookie position carried over for the season.

To me this is a major blunder that shouldn't occur in a professional environment. It is another position that our recruiters could have filled and raised the odds of picking up another successful player through the rookie lists.

RL talks about small percentile gains - well that is another down the Drain!

Not good enough SAINTS !!!
All is lost.

Tis the pivotal moment that we can trace back to if we again come up short in 2011

gringo · Post: # 1027724Post **gringo** » Mon 06 Dec 2010 10:47am

No disrespect to Gaertner, but he was going to struggle to ever break into a regular spot in the team. He is in his 20s getting paid peanuts for a huge commitment. He may have been able to push himself through for a couple of senior games this year before being delisted. Can see why he didn't want to take another year to see where it would take him.

It's not like Caydn Beetham or Luke Ball where we lost a high draft player for nil. A lot of rookie spots go unfilled in afl because it is rare for any of them to break into the team regularly. Good luck to him in all future endeavours. Less competition for the big Irishman to get a game now.

WinnersOnly · Mon 06 Dec 2010 10:53am

borderbarry wrote:The thread is incorrect. We have the same amount of rookie picks now as before he resigned, it makes no difference to the picks. There is now an extra rookie position vacant.

Please confirm as I had a look at the FINAL Draft list and it only had us with three selections.

Joffaboy come on mate you are better than that! No it is "not the end of the world" but I would rather give another kid the chance than not, in the hope he might turn out as the next Dean COX etc...

Bono · Post: # 1027737Post **Bono** » Mon 06 Dec 2010 12:30pm

We have 4 picks in total. One of those has already been accounted for with Jackson Ferguson

stkildathunda · Mon 06 Dec 2010 12:37pm

Has he even officially quit the club? He is still appears on our team list on the saints website: http://www.saints.com.au/rookie/tabid/1 ... fault.aspx

Even if we are 1 rookie down its not the end of the world. How many rookies have actually come off our list and played? From memory theres only been Dawson in past few years. Before that Clint Jones and McQualter (but he was re-drafted as a rookie)

borderbarry · Mon 06 Dec 2010 12:48pm

Eddie and Geary both started as Rookies did'nt they?

fingers · Post: # 1027745Post **fingers** » Mon 06 Dec 2010 1:49pm

Has he actually gone ?

MCG-Unit · Post: # 1027758Post **MCG-Unit** » Mon 06 Dec 2010 2:54pm

borderbarry wrote:Eddie and Geary both started as Rookies did'nt they?

Yes I believe so - also Milne.

The Docker have done very well out of their Rookie lists

saint66au · Post: # 1027772Post **saint66au** » Mon 06 Dec 2010 4:11pm

fingers wrote:Has he actually gone ?

Exactly

Cmon Winners Only...you started this thred stating he'd gone...can we see some proff that things have gone further than him considering leaving?

Did we all miss something, or are you just assuming he'll go so you can have a cheap shot at the Club?

Mr Magic · Post: # 1027773Post **Mr Magic** » Mon 06 Dec 2010 4:24pm

I've just received an email from the CLub with a new ammended list of players available to sponsor, after I wrote to them that Walsh and Gaertner were 'missing' from my list.

The new ammended list includes them both.

Maybe it's no longer current?
But at this stage the Club is still offering Gaertner up for sponsorship.

bobmurray · Post: # 1027774Post **bobmurray** » Mon 06 Dec 2010 4:25pm

If i'd read this thread before i went to Moorabbin today i'd have asked Danny Sexton what was happening with Gaertner when i spoke to him briefly.....

plugger66 · Post: # 1027775Post **plugger66** » Mon 06 Dec 2010 4:41pm

Mr Magic wrote:I've just received an email from the CLub with a new ammended list of players available to sponsor, after I wrote to them that Walsh and Gaertner were 'missing' from my list.

The new ammended list includes them both.

Maybe it's no longer current?
But at this stage the Club is still offering Gaertner up for sponsorship.

Well unless geatner changes his mind I wouldnt be buying that one.

Mr Magic · Post: # 1027777Post **Mr Magic** » Mon 06 Dec 2010 4:49pm

plugger66 wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:I've just received an email from the CLub with a new ammended list of players available to sponsor, after I wrote to them that Walsh and Gaertner were 'missing' from my list.

The new ammended list includes them both.

Maybe it's no longer current?
But at this stage the Club is still offering Gaertner up for sponsorship.
Well unless geatner changes his mind I wouldnt be buying that one.

Agreed, but the point is still valid - has there been an official announcement from either the player or the Club that he has quit?

saintsRrising · Mon 06 Dec 2010 5:44pm

rodgerfox wrote:Good to see the 'modern football department' paying dividends.

Yes much better the old way with bugga all rookies...that was much better wasn't it.

I mean the previous crew produced basically no one. You have to go back to the era before the previous crew to get Milne etc.

Seriously you churn through the rookies. They have issues which is why they are rookies.

saintsRrising · Mon 06 Dec 2010 5:45pm

fingers wrote:Has he actually gone ?

His dad writing on BigFooty has basically stated so...

Spinner · Post: # 1027818Post **Spinner** » Mon 06 Dec 2010 8:30pm

WinnersOnly wrote:Gaertner quitting has seen another list management blunder !!! We now have Rookie picks 24, 41, 57 and then Jackson Ferguson (NSW Schol).

Surely if the Gaertner was a sceptical starter they would have approached him well before the third and final list lodgement date, to ensure he was committed to going on.

As it stands with him quitting we will have an unfilled rookie position carried over for the season.

To me this is a major blunder that shouldn't occur in a professional environment. It is another position that our recruiters could have filled and raised the odds of picking up another successful player through the rookie lists.

RL talks about small percentile gains - well that is another down the Drain!

Not good enough SAINTS !!!

This thread isnt serious is it....

Someone quits in between list lodgements and its the list managers fault.

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