Hayes faces reprimand, Sandilands free to play

[SainterK]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

Because the original offence constituted a less than 100 point violation, Hayes remains eligible for the Brownlow Medal this year.

In summary, he can accept a reprimand and 60 points towards his future record with an early plea.

The incident was assessed as negligent conduct (one point), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of four activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level One offence, drawing 80 demerit points and a reprimand. He has no existing good or bad record. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to a reprimand and 60 points towards his future record.

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Contact involving Fremantle’s Aaron Sandilands and the Adelaide Crows’ Phil Davis from the second quarter of Saturday’s match was assessed. The panel said Sandilands was running towards the ball in a legitimate attempt to mark the football. Contact was made while both players were seeking to take possession of the ball. No further action was required.

[plugger66]

May as well take it to the tribunal if he cant get a week either way.

[saintsrus]

great news Go Lenny

[saintspremiers]

60 points for that?

WTF!

If we weren't about to fly across to Perth I reckon this one might've been worth taking to the tribunal - we really don't want Lenny carrying 60 points for a bulltish charge.....I thought the strike was not foreceful enough to constitute a report.

As for Sandilands, no charge laid per below from dimwit.com.au:

Contact involving Fremantle’s Aaron Sandilands and the Adelaide Crows’ Phil Davis from the second quarter of Saturday’s match was assessed. The panel said Sandilands was running towards the ball in a legitimate attempt to mark the football. Contact was made while both players were seeking to take possession of the ball. No further action was required.

[degruch]

60 points for that?

WTF!

If we weren't about to fly across to Perth I reckon this one might've been worth taking to the tribunal - we really don't want Lenny carrying 60 points for a bulltish charge.....I thought the strike was not foreceful enough to constitute a report.

As for Sandilands, no charge laid per below from dimwit.com.au:

Contact involving Fremantle’s Aaron Sandilands and the Adelaide Crows’ Phil Davis from the second quarter of Saturday’s match was assessed. The panel said Sandilands was running towards the ball in a legitimate attempt to mark the football. Contact was made while both players were seeking to take possession of the ball. No further action was required.

Yes, well, I don't know about taking it to the tribunal, as he's hardly likely to add any points to his total any time soon. But if Sandilands get nothing for a legitimate marking attempt (and the player crushed and mamed in the process...who wouldn't be with Sandy landing on top of them), why does Lenny got points for a spoil gone wrong? Who knows what logic these guys use...best not to compare cases, as we know, 1 + 1 always equals 3.6 when it comes to the MRP.

[TazzieSaintGirl83]

I agree in reference to not being able to make sense of the MRP findings. I am not saying I think we get crucified more than other teams I just mean in general.

Does anyone know if the same members of the MRP judge each incident or whether they rotate? just curious

[super dooper]

I thought it was a bit clumsy on Lenny's behalf, take the reprimand and move on.

However i noticed that it only accrued 80 points so may as well challenge for the hell of it, who knows whats around the corner.

Sandi's contest was fair, lets get the blinkers off here people!!!

[degruch]

Sandi's contest was fair, lets get the blinkers off here people!!!

No-one said it wasn't fair, did they?

[widereceiver]

Sandi's contest was fair, lets get the blinkers off here people!!!

No-one said it wasn't fair, did they?

Not in this post, but it has been in others. I agree, it was fair FWIW.

[philip]

I thought it was a bit clumsy on Lenny's behalf, take the reprimand and move on.

However i noticed that it only accrued 80 points so may as well challenge for the hell of it, who knows whats around the corner.

Sandi's contest was fair, lets get the blinkers off here people!!!

it was clumsy, which is why it was a free kick for high contact.

otherwise, he has nothing to lose in challenging it but everything to gain!

philip

[Solar]

if lenny gets 80 points then you might as well hand out points ever week because similar incidents where a player attempts to spoil and hits the play on the head happens week in week out. Free kick, maybe 50 if the player took the mark but a report.... WHAT?

[saint3d]

He has no existing good or bad record.

I wonder how one would establish an 'existing good record'. Does not getting reported count or do you have to get reported and subsequently get off at the tribunal?

[ace]

Take it to the tribunal.
The jackasses on the match review panel are trying to intimidate the club.
The tribunal will take one look at it and say how is this slap worse than the 100 stomach punches that go unpunished every season.

[rexy]

Contact was made while both players were seeking to take possession of the ball. No further action was required.

Explains why sandilands got off, and rightly so!

Now to work out how Maguire got rubbed out earlier in the year?

Inconsistancy is the problem, no doubt.

[ace]

He has no existing good or bad record.

I wonder how one would establish an 'existing good record'. Does not getting reported count or do you have to get reported and subsequently get off at the tribunal?

Over 5 years clean record gives you a good record
Less than 3 years since last report gives you a bad record.
No record of less than 5 years or between 3 & 5 years gives you neither a good or bad record.

[ace]

It's OK to put your shoulder through an opponents face breaking his jaw, if that is your only way of competing because a teammate has the ball.

But dont slap another players face because his mummy might get upset.

[degruch]

It's OK to put your shoulder through an opponents face breaking his jaw, if that is your only way of competing because a teammate has the ball.

But dont slap another players face because his mummy might get upset.

I told you not to make comparisons...they don't add up.

[ace]

It's OK to put your shoulder through an opponents face breaking his jaw, if that is your only way of competing because a teammate has the ball.

But dont slap another players face because his mummy might get upset.

I told you not to make comparisons...they don't add up.

I think chimpanzees are better at adding up than AFL HQ.

[degruch]

It's OK to put your shoulder through an opponents face breaking his jaw, if that is your only way of competing because a teammate has the ball.

But dont slap another players face because his mummy might get upset.

I told you not to make comparisons...they don't add up.

I think chimpanzees are better at adding up than AFL HQ.

Don't leak the AFL's new outsourcing policy.

[Saintsfan]

It was a stupid act from him although unintentional.

[Thinline]

Didn't Sandilands hit a bloke in the head?

I thought fair or not, that was that. Buddy, for instance?

[Badlands]

Personally I feel that Lenny getting off with just a reprimand is quite a slap in the face for young Webberley.

[plugger66]

Didn't Sandilands hit a bloke in the head?

I thought fair or not, that was that. Buddy, for instance?

Not if they say you are going for a mark which to me he was.

[Thinline]

Didn't Sandilands hit a bloke in the head?

I thought fair or not, that was that. Buddy, for instance?

Not if they say you are going for a mark which to me he was.

I don't have a drama with the decision per se, I just find the whole 'head' thing very confusing. FWIW I reckon he swung his shoulder into the collision rather than 'out' of it (which is why I reckon Buddy was a bit stiff), but splitting hairs especially for a bloke who's a bit of a gentle giant really.

Who cares. Lendog reads him beautifully.

[plugger66]

Didn't Sandilands hit a bloke in the head?

I thought fair or not, that was that. Buddy, for instance?

Not if they say you are going for a mark which to me he was.

I don't have a drama with the decision per se, I just find the whole 'head' thing very confusing. FWIW I reckon he swung his shoulder into the collision rather than 'out' of it (which is why I reckon Buddy was a bit stiff), but splitting hairs especially for a bloke who's a bit of a gentle giant really.

Who cares. Lendog reads him beautifully.

Buddy could have tackled though. If you had another option and you hit them in the head with enough force you are in trouble. That is why Goose went. He could have tackled Bolton but went the bump and knocked both out.