Round One thoughts/opinions?

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
User avatar
WellardSaint
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8000
Joined: Sat 26 May 2012 11:25am
Location: Perth- the best weather in Oz, but the worst rednecks.
Has thanked: 1741 times
Been thanked: 805 times

Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941533Post WellardSaint »

We're not full strength, with all the injuries, so our Rd 1 team won't represent the best team we can field.

But I wonder how we'll feel about the result.
Win, lose or draw, what does everyone think?

Will the result be viewed as a glimpse of our 2022 season?
Knowing we have best 22 coming back at some stage will improve our chances.

Or will the way we play, be the thing we're all talking about? New coaches- Enright, etc, and how Ratts performs with Merrick giving him feedback.

So, are we going to treat the result as a portent of the season, or will we put all the emphasis on HOW we play?

Does this make sense...


A real Sainter will pledge allegiance to the ❤🤍🖤 and despise the Pies, the Blues, and the Injectors.
Remember one of the 10 Commandments : Thou shalt have no other team before thee
Gershwin
Club Player
Posts: 1558
Joined: Tue 06 Apr 2004 2:05pm
Location: NE Victoria
Has thanked: 19 times
Been thanked: 283 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941537Post Gershwin »

I’m all about the 4 points.
An ugly win will be better than to look good but lose due to poor kicking for goal.

In saying that, I’m really hoping we dominate the game and win easily.


summertime and the living is easy ........
User avatar
WellardSaint
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8000
Joined: Sat 26 May 2012 11:25am
Location: Perth- the best weather in Oz, but the worst rednecks.
Has thanked: 1741 times
Been thanked: 805 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941538Post WellardSaint »

I would like us to play confident, aggressive footy, with accurate disposal and winning most of the disputed ball.

I hope we win, but if we lose, i want to see great signs and strong play.


A real Sainter will pledge allegiance to the ❤🤍🖤 and despise the Pies, the Blues, and the Injectors.
Remember one of the 10 Commandments : Thou shalt have no other team before thee
cwrcyn
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4175
Joined: Fri 15 Sep 2006 10:35am
Location: earth
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 1357 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941539Post cwrcyn »

We don't know what Collingwood will throw up with their new coach. In game one anything can happen.

Have we made sufficient ground in fitness?

Can Gresham get through a whole game or will his legs be heavy in the second half?

Is Steele 100% fit?

Is Moore's speed, height, and agility perfect for negating Max King?

Will we put a lock on Steele Sidebottom?

Will Grundy destroy us like last time?

Will Collingwood play Cox and Cameron in an attempt to stretch our lack of height in defense?


spert
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8936
Joined: Wed 29 Jun 2005 10:39pm
Location: A distant beach
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 398 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941540Post spert »

If the Saints come out play as a team, then we'll win, but the midfield especially need to be switched on from the first bounce as we won't win with a dud first quarter. Not sure how we'll go this year.


PADDLEPOP1001
Club Player
Posts: 1223
Joined: Thu 22 Sep 2011 1:18pm
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 570 times
Been thanked: 109 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941542Post PADDLEPOP1001 »

We should take it a game at a time & even with our injuries the pies have Roughue,Maynard & Murphy out from their back 6 that will most certainly help us & unsettle them,we should win & as long as we get the 4 points we can build momentum from there unlike past seasons!


PADDLEPOP1000
User avatar
Wayne42
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4911
Joined: Mon 24 Jun 2013 10:27pm
Has thanked: 619 times
Been thanked: 558 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941544Post Wayne42 »

I'm going to wait and see what we dish up for round 1, this is St Kilda, anything is possible. :lol:


The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
User avatar
SaintPav
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 18533
Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
Location: Alma Road
Has thanked: 1525 times
Been thanked: 1875 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941548Post SaintPav »

It's always nice to get off to a win but it didn't really help us last year.


Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
Gershwin
Club Player
Posts: 1558
Joined: Tue 06 Apr 2004 2:05pm
Location: NE Victoria
Has thanked: 19 times
Been thanked: 283 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941555Post Gershwin »

SaintPav wrote: Sun 13 Mar 2022 12:11pm It's always nice to get off to a win but it didn't really help us last year.
Probably would have been even worse had we lost the first match.


summertime and the living is easy ........
User avatar
Devilhead
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8139
Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 11:56pm
Has thanked: 129 times
Been thanked: 1124 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941557Post Devilhead »

Saints by 6+ goals


The Devil makes work for idle hands!!!
Vortex
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6146
Joined: Fri 18 Sep 2020 6:51am
Has thanked: 818 times
Been thanked: 960 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941558Post Vortex »

hopefully intensity from the first ball up is the same intensity shown at the first ball up of a finals game, make a statement for the year ahead right from the get go. Time for this cozy bunch to hurt or be hurt by transcending their inner Stevie Baker and never die wondering at every contest. Keep it simple.


st.byron
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 10598
Joined: Tue 14 Jun 2005 7:04pm
Location: North
Has thanked: 1011 times
Been thanked: 1055 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941559Post st.byron »

I want to see some precision and flow going into F50. Not just bombs to big Max with 2 or 3 against him.
I want intensity from the get go.
Run out the game.
And the ability to control the tempo and stop any Oppo run-ons that threaten to develop.
And selection looking to the future, not mired in the mediocre past


User avatar
shanegrambeau
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5958
Joined: Thu 25 Jan 2018 2:15pm
Has thanked: 327 times
Been thanked: 710 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941560Post shanegrambeau »

I want to see Plan B …

The bit when the opposition wrestles back back the game, closes down play and we can’t play the overflow running thing.

I want to see plan C..
If the opposition get going on a run, how will we respond.

Against Collingwood, I can’t seeing it get to plan C


You're quite brilliant Shane, yeah..terrific!
Saints58
Club Player
Posts: 634
Joined: Tue 13 Oct 2020 9:25pm
Has thanked: 482 times
Been thanked: 107 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941564Post Saints58 »

cwrcyn wrote: Sun 13 Mar 2022 7:49am We don't know what Collingwood will throw up with their new coach. In game one anything can happen.

Have we made sufficient ground in fitness?

Can Gresham get through a whole game or will his legs be heavy in the second half?

Is Steele 100% fit?

Is Moore's speed, height, and agility perfect for negating Max King?

Will we put a lock on Steele Sidebottom?

Will Grundy destroy us like last time?

Will Collingwood play Cox and Cameron in an attempt to stretch our lack of height in defense?


Yes I think they will try and stretch our defence with our lack of height as many teams will try.
We should look at Leinert if Battle struggles I would also play Leinert in the 22 not sure where but find a place especially with the kick he has on him.


Yorkeys
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4523
Joined: Tue 13 Jun 2017 1:16pm
Has thanked: 1292 times
Been thanked: 1299 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941565Post Yorkeys »

Maynard out is good. We have a strong squad. Home game. Make noise. Bring them home.


BadRossco
Club Player
Posts: 490
Joined: Tue 13 Sep 2011 7:14pm
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 71 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941567Post BadRossco »

If both sides were at full strength we would win comfortably but our outs will have a greater affect than theirs as such I expect a narrow loss


User avatar
WellardSaint
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8000
Joined: Sat 26 May 2012 11:25am
Location: Perth- the best weather in Oz, but the worst rednecks.
Has thanked: 1741 times
Been thanked: 805 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941569Post WellardSaint »

st.byron wrote: Sun 13 Mar 2022 6:41pm I want to see some precision and flow going into F50. Not just bombs to big Max with 2 or 3 against him.
I want intensity from the get go.
Run out the game.
And the ability to control the tempo and stop any Oppo run-ons that threaten to develop.
And selection looking to the future, not mired in the mediocre past
There's been games where Max takes 3-4 nice marks in the 1st qtr, looks set for a big game, then the next 3 qtrs, our guys kick it very poorly to him and he's got 3 guys on him, gets worked off the ball.
An exception was the Meth Coast Eagles in Perth when his last qtr was electric.

We need to give it to him properly, and Hayes and Skunk need to provide decoys to let Max compete


A real Sainter will pledge allegiance to the ❤🤍🖤 and despise the Pies, the Blues, and the Injectors.
Remember one of the 10 Commandments : Thou shalt have no other team before thee
Gershwin
Club Player
Posts: 1558
Joined: Tue 06 Apr 2004 2:05pm
Location: NE Victoria
Has thanked: 19 times
Been thanked: 283 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941573Post Gershwin »

BadRossco wrote: Sun 13 Mar 2022 9:06pm If both sides were at full strength we would win comfortably but our outs will have a greater affect than theirs as such I expect a narrow loss
I think you are over-reacting to our outs. Only Jones would be in our top 12 players. Clark and Coffield have not cemented their places in the 22 and Ryder is a bonus when he plays but will struggle to get on the ground at his age with a chronic ankle injury. Geary and Hannebery? Who knows.


summertime and the living is easy ........
User avatar
Ghost Like
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6562
Joined: Wed 19 Sep 2007 10:04pm
Has thanked: 5788 times
Been thanked: 1909 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941578Post Ghost Like »

I expect to win and win well. It's round 1, I do not expect it to be pretty or perfect. I agree with Vortex, skills or game plan may not be perfect but intensity, commitment and selflessness should be.

In terms of Hayes or Membrey being decoys(???), surely that can only work if our players actually hit them up, ideally making it a 3 prong threat. Membrey and Hayes need to be dangerous for Max to be the weapon we hope / want him to be.

Game plans by teams are all quite similar IMO, what makes a side different to another is execution of skill, fast ball movement and two way running & spread better than the opposition. Turnovers will kill all three aspects.

I want the ball moved into our forward line quickly, no defence enjoys that and will eventually crack. Exhibit A: The 2021 GF from the 15 minute mark of the 3rd quarter until the very end.


Teflon
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 22847
Joined: Sat 13 Mar 2004 11:44pm
Has thanked: 714 times
Been thanked: 1696 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941588Post Teflon »

st.byron wrote: Sun 13 Mar 2022 6:41pm I want to see some precision and flow going into F50. Not just bombs to big Max with 2 or 3 against him.
I want intensity from the get go.
Run out the game.
And the ability to control the tempo and stop any Oppo run-ons that threaten to develop.
And selection looking to the future, not mired in the mediocre past
Agreed


“Yeah….nah””
User avatar
ace
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 10683
Joined: Sun 16 Dec 2007 3:28pm
Location: St Kilda
Has thanked: 29 times
Been thanked: 801 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941589Post ace »

A win would be better than a loss.


The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
Gershwin
Club Player
Posts: 1558
Joined: Tue 06 Apr 2004 2:05pm
Location: NE Victoria
Has thanked: 19 times
Been thanked: 283 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941594Post Gershwin »

ace wrote: Mon 14 Mar 2022 2:58pm A win would be better than a loss.
A win is the only good result.


summertime and the living is easy ........
BadRossco
Club Player
Posts: 490
Joined: Tue 13 Sep 2011 7:14pm
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 71 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941597Post BadRossco »

Our outs a pretty handy Gershwin, I’d have Billings in our top 12 also and Clark and Ryder when fit would certainly be easily in the top 22. Coffield is still a bit of an enigma and forget Hanners. I agree Jone’s pace will be missed in a side that doesn’t have an abundance of it.


stkfc1
Club Player
Posts: 1351
Joined: Sat 06 Oct 2007 2:42pm
Has thanked: 240 times
Been thanked: 382 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941599Post stkfc1 »

Most folks don't have Collingwood making the 8 so we need to be beating these teams if we're serious about finals this year.

Collingwood
Hawks
North
GCS
Adelaide

Must be beating these teams. No excuses.

Sydney
Blues
Freo
Bombers
Giants

Our "there abouts" teams and our biggest competition for spots in the 8. Wins against these teams are going to go along way to us playing finals

The rest are, in theory ahead of us, so wins against these teams are gold.

The only other two teams I think aren't going to go so well this year are West Coast (injuries are going to cripple any chance of them being a threat). They have Suns and North first up. They may well drop one of these games. Then they have a shocking run of last year's Top 8 in the first half of year. Their season could well be over by round 6.

Geelong is the other one. Just my opinion but I think their time is over with too many aging stars. Just don't see them being a threat this year. Probably have egg on my face but just a feeling I have. May still make the 8 but can't see them Top 4.

I have Demons, Tigers, Lions, Dogs and Power ahead of them.


User avatar
Otiman
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8333
Joined: Thu 28 Jul 2005 11:09pm
Location: Elsewhere
Has thanked: 163 times
Been thanked: 564 times

Re: Round One thoughts/opinions?

Post: # 1941607Post Otiman »

The time for thinking and speculation is over, it's close enough to just concentrate on what happens on the park this week.

I won't be spending any more energy thinking about the what-ifs until then.


Post Reply