Paddy Ryder jump at last throw in 1.20 to go

Joffa Burns · Fri 07 Aug 2020 4:36pm

Watching it live I thought he'd given away a free kick.
Can you have unrealistic attempt in a ruck contest?
Or would it have been interference?
Then I thought, perhaps he was blocked and maybe could have received one.

Watching the replay I thing he infringed and was probably lucky to get away with that one.
I'm betting it would have been paid if it was in Q1.

A free to Witts at that point could have been game changing?

Munga · Post: # 1858236Post **Munga** » Fri 07 Aug 2020 4:40pm

Watching live I thought free against. No sympathy though, the umps missed 20 frees to us.

kosifantutti · Fri 07 Aug 2020 4:41pm

Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Fri 07 Aug 2020 4:36pm Watching it live I thought he'd given away a free kick.
Can you have unrealistic attempt in a ruck contest?
Or would it have been interference?
Then I thought, perhaps he was blocked and maybe could have received one.

Watching the replay I thing he infringed and was probably lucky to get away with that one.
I'm betting it would have been paid if it was in Q1.

A free to Witts at that point could have been game changing?

They got the clearance. A free would have slowed them down.

Joffa Burns · Fri 07 Aug 2020 4:47pm

kosifantutti wrote: ↑Fri 07 Aug 2020 4:41pm
Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Fri 07 Aug 2020 4:36pm Watching it live I thought he'd given away a free kick.
Can you have unrealistic attempt in a ruck contest?
Or would it have been interference?
Then I thought, perhaps he was blocked and maybe could have received one.

Watching the replay I thing he infringed and was probably lucky to get away with that one.
I'm betting it would have been paid if it was in Q1.

A free to Witts at that point could have been game changing?
They got the clearance. A free would have slowed them down.

Yes but Ellis blazed away on his left and they turned it over.

What was your take on it Kossi, free or play on?

Mr Magic · Post: # 1858254Post **Mr Magic** » Fri 07 Aug 2020 4:57pm

Watching it live I thought it was almost 'tunneling' by Witts and should have been a free to Paddy.
It was as 'technical' as the free to Ben King against Howard.
But maybe it was my natural bias?

darylcowie · Fri 07 Aug 2020 5:06pm

Mr Magic wrote: ↑Fri 07 Aug 2020 4:57pm Watching it live I thought it was almost 'tunneling' by Witts and should have been a free to Paddy.
It was as 'technical' as the free to Ben King against Howard.
But maybe it was my natural bias?

They don't seem to pay tunnelling frees in the ruck.

It happened to Ryder many times, even at centre bounces vs Witts.

ace · Post: # 1858262Post **ace** » Fri 07 Aug 2020 5:06pm

Witts was trying to prevent Ryder access to the ball.
The umpires would have said Ryder was trying to go for the ball.
If anything they may have penalised Witts but Witts did go for the ball after blocking Ryder.

saynta · Post: # 1858263Post **saynta** » Fri 07 Aug 2020 5:08pm

Tunneling. but not paid in the ruck so play on. Good call from the maggot

kosifantutti · Fri 07 Aug 2020 6:11pm

Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Fri 07 Aug 2020 4:47pm
kosifantutti wrote: ↑Fri 07 Aug 2020 4:41pm
Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Fri 07 Aug 2020 4:36pm Watching it live I thought he'd given away a free kick.
Can you have unrealistic attempt in a ruck contest?
Or would it have been interference?
Then I thought, perhaps he was blocked and maybe could have received one.

Watching the replay I thing he infringed and was probably lucky to get away with that one.
I'm betting it would have been paid if it was in Q1.

A free to Witts at that point could have been game changing?
They got the clearance. A free would have slowed them down.
Yes but Ellis blazed away on his left and they turned it over.

What was your take on it Kossi, free or play on?

I thought it was genuine attempt to play the ball.

The_Dud · Post: # 1858297Post **The_Dud** » Fri 07 Aug 2020 6:15pm

Live I thought "Oh no he's given away a free", then when the ump didn't pay it I thought he must have got a touch on it. I suppose it could also have been paid as blocking in the ruck, who knows, ruck contests can go any way, I think the ump just said play on because they were both infringing each other

1965 Saint · Sat 08 Aug 2020 12:25am

Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Fri 07 Aug 2020 4:36pm Watching it live I thought he'd given away a free kick.
Can you have unrealistic attempt in a ruck contest?
Or would it have been interference?
Then I thought, perhaps he was blocked and maybe could have received one.

Watching the replay I thing he infringed and was probably lucky to get away with that one.
I'm betting it would have been paid if it was in Q1.

A free to Witts at that point could have been game changing?

Gold Coast cleared the ball from that contest and kicked into forward anyway so whether the fee was paid or not is somewhat irrelevant

1965 Saint · Sat 08 Aug 2020 12:25am

Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Fri 07 Aug 2020 4:36pm Watching it live I thought he'd given away a free kick.
Can you have unrealistic attempt in a ruck contest?
Or would it have been interference?
Then I thought, perhaps he was blocked and maybe could have received one.

Watching the replay I thing he infringed and was probably lucky to get away with that one.
I'm betting it would have been paid if it was in Q1.

A free to Witts at that point could have been game changing?

Gold Coast cleared the ball from that contest and kicked into forward 50 anyway so whether the free was paid or not is somewhat irrelevant

Enrico_Misso · Sat 08 Aug 2020 1:20am

F#ck Witts

avid · Post: # 1858442Post **avid** » Sat 08 Aug 2020 1:34am

I thought he did pretty well to get up so high.

So late in the game
So late in life!

SaintPav · Post: # 1858443Post **SaintPav** » Sat 08 Aug 2020 1:38am

Should have been a free. It was a game changing moment.

It’s a conspiracy. The AFL loves us again.

skeptic · Post: # 1858446Post **skeptic** » Sat 08 Aug 2020 1:42am

I think it was actually pretty impressive that the umpire didn’t ping Ryder immediately. In real time, to me at least, it looked like an absurd attempt at winning a bit out... a bit like flying waaaay too early at a market.

It looked like the umpire witnessed Witts back into Paddy as he jumped and saw some combination of an early fly/high contact/tunneling and thought best to leave it as a no points draw to both rucks

SaintPav · Post: # 1858448Post **SaintPav** » Sat 08 Aug 2020 1:48am

It wouldn’t have made any difference. If Effwitt got a free he would have pumped the ball deep. Our backs would have killed the ball and Clark would have picked it up and weaved around 8 GC players and kicked it long to someone on the wing and we'd be away.

shanegrambeau · Sat 08 Aug 2020 2:13am

How could Ryder have anticipated the block before launching himself? Answer = 32 year old ruckman with acres of experience and know how. That’s my belief and I am sticking to it. I am so in love with everything now, Ryder is my maligned hero. Go Ryder. Now, three days to go, bloody Geelong, another nemesis, with a massively exposed “ruck problem” with StKilda heritage. What now?

bigcarl · Post: # 1858458Post **bigcarl** » Sat 08 Aug 2020 4:33am

Clear case of tunnelling, but once again St Kilda gets the raw end of the deal

saynta · Post: # 1858478Post **saynta** » Sat 08 Aug 2020 10:42am

Enrico_Misso wrote: ↑Sat 08 Aug 2020 1:20am F#ck Witts

bergsone · Post: # 1858493Post **bergsone** » Sat 08 Aug 2020 12:11pm

I dont think Witts feet left the ground,so he wasnt jumping to get the tap out,just blocking.Dare I say it good decision,play on,or free to Ryder

Ghost Like · Sat 08 Aug 2020 12:27pm

It was odd to see such an experienced ruckman go over the top like that which made me think it was some kind of blocking / tunnelling infringement from Witts.

If that had been a centre bounce the umpire may have called it that way.

Either way, at ruck contests the umpires just spin a wheel, that time it came up "play on".

Superboot · Post: # 1858614Post **Superboot** » Sat 08 Aug 2020 7:58pm

Watching live I was sure it was a free against Paddy.

Might have been influenced by the fact that he gave away three in space five minutes earlier in the game. Needs to be careful.

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