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franklin better get weeks or we are entitled to answers

Post: # 934631Post bigcarl »

nearly identical to the bump that kosi copped three weeks for in round 1.

like kosi, buddy has form, too.

any experts on how the points system works like to predict an outcome?


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Post: # 934647Post St Chris »

If there's one thing the tribunal/match review panel dislikes, it's seeing the same players on the same charge week after week.

He could be in a lot of trouble, probably 3 or 4 weeks.

Unless of course your name is David Hille.....


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Post: # 934649Post Sainterman »

Will probably get off...lets face it, it is a lottery.

Was similar to kosi's but I am sure there will have been some interpretation change this week...

Wait and see but really should be 3 weeks.


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Post: # 934650Post bigcarl »

Sainterman wrote:Will probably get off ... let's face it, it is a lottery.
we ought to make some discreet, behind-the-scenes representations if that happens. it could help us later in the season.


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Re: franklin better get weeks or we are entitled to answers

Post: # 934689Post terry smith rules »

bigcarl wrote:nearly identical to the bump that kosi copped three weeks for in round 1.

like kosi, buddy has form, too.

any experts on how the points system works like to predict an outcome?
you are kidding aren't you!!

Buddy was clumsy and not clever, but it was a free kick at best.

Kosi deserved some time, it was a far worse hit


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Post: # 934693Post super dooper »

Perhaps a bit of bias has entered the fray here.

Kosi's bump was forcefull, Buddy should get off in my opinion. Although he probably should have tackled he did everything right in the circumstances to execute a bump imo.

Also note, Grundy got up straight away to take the kick. Malceski was dazed for a quarter...


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Post: # 934694Post wasoncestkil58 »

Only saw it on news highlights but on first impression I hope he gets off. Looked like he was trying to get down as possible. I know it is a lottery but for the sake of the game I think the tribunal should be a bit more lenient.


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Re: franklin better get weeks or we are entitled to answers

Post: # 934698Post bigcarl »

terry smith rules wrote:
bigcarl wrote:nearly identical to the bump that kosi copped three weeks for in round 1.

like kosi, buddy has form, too.

any experts on how the points system works like to predict an outcome?
you are kidding aren't you!!

Buddy was clumsy and not clever, but it was a free kick at best.

Kosi deserved some time, it was a far worse hit
no i'm not kidding. it was a bump to the head, an area the afl has deemed sacrosanct.

in kosi's case you could plead clumsiness, but buddy isn't clumsy.

i hope he gets weeks. i'm not big on special rules for special players. everyone should be equal before the law.
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Post: # 934700Post Sainterman »

bigcarl wrote:
terry smith rules wrote:
bigcarl wrote:nearly identical to the bump that kosi copped three weeks for in round 1.

like kosi, buddy has form, too.

any experts on how the points system works like to predict an outcome?
you are kidding aren't you!!

Buddy was clumsy and not clever, but it was a free kick at best.

Kosi deserved some time, it was a far worse hit
no i'm not kidding. it was a bump to the head, an area the afl has deemed sacrosanct.

in kosi's case you could plead clumsiness, but buddy isn't clumsy.
+1...the head is meant to be sacrosanct...Hawks supporters I have been chatting to today expect him to go.


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Post: # 934702Post TazzieSaintGirl83 »

Didnt see the incident but you would think Buddy might be in some trouble due to the fact his name has been on the naughty list already this season, but as a few have mentioned on here its hard to guess the outcome as some times it really doesn seem like a lottery.


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Post: # 934709Post bigcarl »

super dooper wrote:Also note, Grundy got up straight away to take the kick. Malceski was dazed for a quarter...
yes, that should be taken into account. perhaps two weeks instead of three. the intent wasn't good.


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Post: # 934730Post dcstkfc »

And Kosi would have helped us in those games how?


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Post: # 934738Post bigcarl »

dcstkfc wrote:And Kosi would have helped us in those games how?
:) any guy in a st kilda guernsey i'll stick up for.


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Post: # 934788Post plugger66 »

Nothing like the Kosi one but if it hit him in the head and it liked like it did the will get one week and then it will depend on carry overs.


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Post: # 934799Post Schillaci »

I've seen the incident and all I can say is the game has gone soft. May as well be called Aussie Touch and get rid of the tackle while we're at it.


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Post: # 934802Post saintbrat »

Franklin - 2 weeks reduced for early plea to 1

Fletcher- 1 week no reduction even if early plea
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Post: # 934970Post bigcarl »

Schillaci wrote:I've seen the incident and all I can say is the game has gone soft. May as well be called Aussie Touch and get rid of the tackle while we're at it.
i agree to a point. but if they're going to ping one of our guys for it, we are entitled to consistency.

a week is a soft, imo.

special rules for special players.

it was almost identical to the kosi incident. he got down low to make sure he connected with the guy's head.

kosi could plead clumsiness, but buddy isn't clumsy.


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bigcarl wrote:
Schillaci wrote:I've seen the incident and all I can say is the game has gone soft. May as well be called Aussie Touch and get rid of the tackle while we're at it.
i agree to a point. but if they're going to ping one of our guys for it, we are entitled to consistency.

a week is a soft, imo.

special rules for special players.

it was almost identical to the kosi incident. he got down low to make sure he connected with the guy's head.

kosi could plead clumsiness, but buddy isn't clumsy.
Surely you're kidding? Franklin's bump was nothing like Kosi's. Kosi had huge force behind his hit, while Franklin's bump was very soft.
And Franklin has been reported for the third time this year, you can't be serious in thinking he gets "special treatment".
Just take your rose-coloured glasses off for one time.

And the rules are; if you are in a postion not to bump and you decide to bump and get the head you are GONE!


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Post: # 935565Post St Ick »

Buddy has form, he deserved his week. I still don't think Kozi deserved his 3 at the start of the year (side note: he played well round 1, those 3 weeks really stuffed up his year thus far didn't it?!).

I keep remembering Zac getting done last year for bumping that bloke on the mark, if you look at that, maybe Buddy deserved 3 or 4! :roll: Its definitely a grey area this year, some blokes not even sighted, some get a few weeks - then again, whats new there!


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Post: # 935586Post bigcarl »

Saintersss wrote:Franklin has been reported for the third time this year
even more reason to throw the book at him. then he might think twice about again going for the head ... which, the afl has made pretty clear, is a no go zone.

instead he has been flogged with a feather and a soft one week penalty.

he must be thick to keep making the same stupid mistake. the elbow came up and the intent wasn't good.

they like to keep their superstars on the field, i guess. i repeat, special treatment for special players.


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bigcarl wrote:
Saintersss wrote:Franklin has been reported for the third time this year
even more reason to throw the book at him. then he might think twice about again going for the head ... which, the afl has made pretty clear, is a no go zone.

instead he has been flogged with a feather and a soft one week penalty.

he must be thick to keep making the same stupid mistake. the elbow came up and the intent wasn't good.

they like to keep their superstars on the field, i guess. i repeat, special treatment for special players.
The AFL can't just give extra weeks cause they feel like it, they have set guidelines which they obey.

Buddy does not get special treatment.


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Post: # 935607Post bigcarl »

Saintersss wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
Saintersss wrote:Franklin has been reported for the third time this year
even more reason to throw the book at him. then he might think twice about again going for the head ... which, the afl has made pretty clear, is a no go zone.

instead he has been flogged with a feather and a soft one week penalty.

he must be thick to keep making the same stupid mistake. the elbow came up and the intent wasn't good.

they like to keep their superstars on the field, i guess. i repeat, special treatment for special players.
The AFL can't just give extra weeks cause they feel like it, they have set guidelines which they obey.

Buddy does not get special treatment.
much of it comes down to how they decide to see the incident. this is where the inconsistencies come in. there are value judgements involved.

ie. kosi's was a malicious attempt to take a player's head off, while buddy's was mere accidental clumsiness that unfortunately collected a player flush on the head.

make no mistake, the afl would want buddy out there as often as possible. it is naive to think otherwise. it is kid gloves where he is concerned.


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