Lovett Why the Dons let him go ?

aussiejones · Thu 22 Oct 2009 2:32pm

Lovett appears a great pick up ....but ..couldnt the Dons turn him around ?

What Exactly has he done wrong in the past ???????

Milan Faletic · Thu 22 Oct 2009 2:44pm

15 other clubs are probably asking the same questions about Luke Ball

MCG-Unit · Post: # 851665Post **MCG-Unit** » Thu 22 Oct 2009 3:10pm

Milan Faletic wrote:15 other clubs are probably asking the same questions about Luke Ball

That's for sure

SainterK · Post: # 851711Post **SainterK** » Thu 22 Oct 2009 10:33pm

Didn't he want out last year, I am glad we picked him up and not Geelong

milney044 · Post: # 851763Post **milney044** » Fri 23 Oct 2009 9:19am

When you don't get on with the coach and other head coaches at the club I think that plays a big part.
Welcome to the Saints Lovett, I hope you, Ross and the boys create something special.

St Michele · Post: # 851768Post **St Michele** » Fri 23 Oct 2009 9:58am

We have been at the receiving end of many players who were'let go' and most have shone for us. I have a good feeling that Lovett will be the same.

aussiejones · Fri 23 Oct 2009 10:48am

Agree . I just think he is an amazing pick up ...I wanted to know if there was a downside that we are ignoring .

Moccha · Post: # 851785Post **Moccha** » Fri 23 Oct 2009 10:58am

Discipline reasons

It's been the papers in the last 2 years. Beat his g/f, drink driving, missing training etc etc.

samoht · Post: # 851788Post **samoht** » Fri 23 Oct 2009 11:11am

He provided around 20 odd running possessions and a goal/match on average in 2009.

Hopefully he'll both conform(discipline-wise) and perform at St kilda... but the important thing and good news is (if you can call it that) even a non disciplined Lovett performs on the field going by the stats.

S.A Saint · Post: # 851797Post **S.A Saint** » Fri 23 Oct 2009 12:09pm

i couldn't care less what he does next year off field to be honest, as long as he helps us get that premiership then all is forgiven...

ThomasR · Post: # 851847Post **ThomasR** » Fri 23 Oct 2009 3:53pm

Have heard that he and many of his teammates were not on speaking terms.. take that for what you will

stinger · Post: # 851851Post **stinger** » Fri 23 Oct 2009 3:59pm

ThomasR wrote:Have heard that he and many of his teammates were not on speaking terms.. take that for what you will

his team mates voted him out last year....the club couldn't do the deal though.....

ace · Post: # 851853Post **ace** » Fri 23 Oct 2009 4:05pm

ThomasR wrote:Have heard that he and many of his teammates were not on speaking terms.. take that for what you will

Does not like talking to S--- & Dung players.
Seems like a good attribute to me.

EB · Post: # 852059Post EB » Sat 24 Oct 2009 11:16am

He wanted a bigger, more expansive (and expensive) contract than what the Bombers were willing to pay so they said bugger ya we'll piss you off to somewhere else

PJ · Post: # 852064Post PJ » Sat 24 Oct 2009 11:30am

He wanted a bigger, more expansive (and expensive) contract than what the Bombers were willing to pay so they said bugger ya we'll piss you off to somewhere else

Interesting! - Why has he taken less to be at St.Kilda then?

milney044 · Post: # 852067Post **milney044** » Sat 24 Oct 2009 11:32am

I've said it before and i'll say it again. When you don't get on with the head coach and others it makes it hard to stick around. Just look at the Best and Fairest results for a hint. Tell me how exactly Lovett, Essendon's 2nd best player imo and definitely top 5, did not finish top 10 in Essendon's Best and Fairest. We all know who does the voting.

Anyway, it suits us and it's a nice fresh start. Welcome to the Saints.

EB · Post: # 852079Post EB » Sat 24 Oct 2009 1:00pm

PJ wrote:
He wanted a bigger, more expansive (and expensive) contract than what the Bombers were willing to pay so they said bugger ya we'll piss you off to somewhere else
Interesting! - Why has he taken less to be at St.Kilda then?

Closer to a premiership.
Is he on 3 years at the Saints? Think Essendon offered him just the 2

plugger66 · Post: # 852161Post **plugger66** » Sat 24 Oct 2009 7:31pm

milney044 wrote:I've said it before and i'll say it again. When you don't get on with the head coach and others it makes it hard to stick around. Just look at the Best and Fairest results for a hint. Tell me how exactly Lovett, Essendon's 2nd best player imo and definitely top 5, did not finish top 10 in Essendon's Best and Fairest. We all know who does the voting.

Anyway, it suits us and it's a nice fresh start. Welcome to the Saints.

Because unlike us they see the game through 2 eyes but once we recruit a guy we want them to see it through our eyes. Obviously he is now a top 5 player for the Dons. 4 weeks a go he was an overrated player. If we keep Bally he is a great player and if we lose him, which we will, he is finished as a footballer.

milney044 · Post: # 852166Post **milney044** » Sat 24 Oct 2009 7:44pm

plugger66 wrote:
milney044 wrote:I've said it before and i'll say it again. When you don't get on with the head coach and others it makes it hard to stick around. Just look at the Best and Fairest results for a hint. Tell me how exactly Lovett, Essendon's 2nd best player imo and definitely top 5, did not finish top 10 in Essendon's Best and Fairest. We all know who does the voting.

Anyway, it suits us and it's a nice fresh start. Welcome to the Saints.
Because unlike us they see the game through 2 eyes but once we recruit a guy we want them to see it through our eyes. Obviously he is now a top 5 player for the Dons. 4 weeks a go he was an overrated player. If we keep Bally he is a great player and if we lose him, which we will, he is finished as a footballer.

Nope, i have always rated Lovett highly. In fact i had him in my All Australian side as a smokey. I believe he is certainly top 5 at the Bombers regardless of whether we picked him up or not.
I don't really know what Ball has to do with it but whether we keep him or not i do value him, not in our top 5 but in our starting 22 for sure.

Con Gorozidis · Sat 24 Oct 2009 8:13pm

i am genuinely excited about lovett. this is a good time to be a saints fan.

im expecting some seriously high class footy next year. we will be pretty much the same team but with added leg speed which we lacked and added depth which we lacked (but got away with because of a good run of injuries)

PJ · Post: # 852204Post PJ » Sat 24 Oct 2009 9:41pm

Because unlike us they see the game through 2 eyes but once we recruit a guy we want them to see it through our eyes. Obviously he is now a top 5 player for the Dons. 4 weeks a go he was an overrated player. If we keep Bally he is a great player and if we lose him, which we will, he is finished as a footballer.

A truer statement has never been made. It's astounding how some have jumped on Bally - yes he's looking after no. 1 but he's a professional and the St.Kilda football club is a professional organisation. Supporters want their heroes to bleed red, white and black but that is just pure romance. He (Lovett) is now an employee of the St.Kilda FC and whether or not he bonds with the players is only important if it affects his performance on field.

StSteven · Post: # 852284Post **StSteven** » Sun 25 Oct 2009 7:48am

Gain Lovett, lose Ball. At least a big loss of "class and character" for us. I don't like it

ace · Post: # 852317Post **ace** » Sun 25 Oct 2009 10:43am

Con Gorozidis wrote:i am genuinely excited about lovett. this is a good time to be a saints fan.

im expecting some seriously high class footy next year. we will be pretty much the same team but with added leg speed which we lacked and added depth which we lacked (but got away with because of a good run of injuries)

I see Andrew Lovett providing what Xavier Clarke promised for so long but never delivered.

I also see Xavier Clarke having to deliver on his promise to Brisbane or Michael voss will quickly exterminate X's career.
Voss has already turned over a full one third of all players at Brisbane at his first real opportunity.
Unlike at St Kilda, X can expect absolutely no sympathy for injuries from Voss.
His job is to make Voss look good, it all about Voss at Brisbane and Voss is in a hurry.

plugger66 · Post: # 852318Post **plugger66** » Sun 25 Oct 2009 10:46am

ace wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:i am genuinely excited about lovett. this is a good time to be a saints fan.

im expecting some seriously high class footy next year. we will be pretty much the same team but with added leg speed which we lacked and added depth which we lacked (but got away with because of a good run of injuries)
I see Andrew Lovett providing what Xavier Clarke promised for so long but never delivered.

I also see Xavier Clarke having to deliver on his promise to Brisbane or Michael voss will quickly exterminate X's career.
Voss has already turned over a full one third of all players at Brisbane at his first real opportunity.
Unlike at St Kilda, X can expect absolutely no sympathy for injuries from Voss.
His job is to make Voss look good, it all about Voss at Brisbane and Voss is in a hurry.

And there is something wrong with that is there?

ace · Post: # 852319Post **ace** » Sun 25 Oct 2009 10:49am

plugger66 wrote:
milney044 wrote:I've said it before and i'll say it again. When you don't get on with the head coach and others it makes it hard to stick around. Just look at the Best and Fairest results for a hint. Tell me how exactly Lovett, Essendon's 2nd best player imo and definitely top 5, did not finish top 10 in Essendon's Best and Fairest. We all know who does the voting.

Anyway, it suits us and it's a nice fresh start. Welcome to the Saints.
Because unlike us they see the game through 2 eyes but once we recruit a guy we want them to see it through our eyes. Obviously he is now a top 5 player for the Dons. 4 weeks a go he was an overrated player. If we keep Bally he is a great player and if we lose him, which we will, he is finished as a footballer.

I see you starting to identify the traits that make a fan.
We may yet succeed in turning you into a St Kilda fan, Plugger66.