I watched the prematch goalkicking with interest and then the kicks at goal during the game and can't help but think what do they actually do at training ? Even in the prematch shots very few went through.
During the match I found it baffling how a league footballer can miss set shots from 30 metres out quite regularly.
Roo's kicking was atrocious today. Kosi's first was terrible hitting the point post.
Luke Ball is an interesting one. He's had OP granted but why when he kicks does he make contact with the ball when his boot is on the way up ? He doesn't kick through the ball at the bottom of his boot's travel through the arc. He kicks it when his foot is past the lowest point and therefore he kicks the ball up and high and no distance. I love his passion and tenacity to bits. Don't get me wrong. He is the guttiest player in the league but I can't help but wonder why this can't be sorted out at training ?
We beat the Dees today but realisticly to be a force we need to nail many more shots at goal.
As much as I hate to say it the Pies come to mind. Kickin' 'em out of their backsides.
The upside is we can address this, surely. And see a vast improvement in results.
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Re: Goal kicking yips
it's a confidence thing and the pies are running hot atm.howlinwolf wrote:As much as I hate to say it the Pies come to mind. Kickin' 'em out of their backsides.
having said that, riewoldt needs some work on his technique. his first thought after taking a mark seems to be to dish it off.
really, for the number of possessions he gets within goal-kicking range he should be a 4-5-goal-a-game-player rather than a 2-goals-a-game-player.
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Re: Goal kicking yips
It's obvious what they do at training - they practise missing! Like you, I also noted the pre match point fest. One player missed from 40, missed from thirty and then scored from throwing distance. Maybe we should press for a rule change allowing players to throw the ball through if their kicking is no good.howlinwolf wrote:I watched the prematch goalkicking with interest and then the kicks at goal during the game and can't help but think what do they actually do at training ? Even in the prematch shots very few went through.
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howlinwolf wrote:Excuse me "The Saintsaintal Man" for posting. I thought this was a place to discuss our club and the game. New poster or not.
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Need to practise the way golfers put.....
10 shots from 20M....any miss, back to zero
same from 30M, From 40M
then at 45 degrees.....both sides....
do it at the end of training, so the pressure is on to finish, or they will be there for hours......either way it is repetitive training..mental and physical.
10 shots from 20M....any miss, back to zero
same from 30M, From 40M
then at 45 degrees.....both sides....
do it at the end of training, so the pressure is on to finish, or they will be there for hours......either way it is repetitive training..mental and physical.
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agree. would really pay off for us.BigMart wrote:Need to practise the way golfers put.....
10 shots from 20M....any miss, back to zero
same from 30M, From 40M
then at 45 degrees.....both sides....
do it at the end of training, so the pressure is on to finish, or they will be there for hours......either way it is repetitive training..mental and physical.
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Agreed. We missed at least half a dozen easy set shots on goal, which isn't acceptable at this level. You can get away with it against shite sides like the Dees, but against good sides these make all the difference.fonz_#15 wrote:some of our missed set shots at goal are pathetic, it can be a real difference in tight games, and we must get it right.
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Poor kicking at goal has hurt us all season. We could have even had Geelong a bit shaky if we'd converted in that first quarter and it cost us the game against the Filth.
Poor kicking at goal is a symptom of being off your game mentally IMO. It's also the real test of leadership, to make it count when it matters. Despite what we may like to think about our leaders, they simply do not get it done in this area. Think of all the gun leaders (Carey, Voss, Hird, Buckley, etc) they all kicked that goal when their team needed it most.
That's the only thing absent from Roo, Bally, Lenny, Kosi and Dal's game.
Poor kicking at goal is a symptom of being off your game mentally IMO. It's also the real test of leadership, to make it count when it matters. Despite what we may like to think about our leaders, they simply do not get it done in this area. Think of all the gun leaders (Carey, Voss, Hird, Buckley, etc) they all kicked that goal when their team needed it most.
That's the only thing absent from Roo, Bally, Lenny, Kosi and Dal's game.
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Totally agree.BigMart wrote:Need to practise the way golfers put.....
10 shots from 20M....any miss, back to zero
same from 30M, From 40M
then at 45 degrees.....both sides....
do it at the end of training, so the pressure is on to finish, or they will be there for hours......either way it is repetitive training..mental and physical.
Have posted on this before.
They are professionals.
Understand we can't flog them doing competitive drills for hours on end.
But as full time professionals I don't see why they can't spend a few hours each training day doing drills like this.
And the more the practise it, the better they will get.
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I also like the golf putting routine as mentioned earlier. However, before every kick the player should run 100 or 200 metres flat out. Then stop and take his kick. Legs go to jelly after such hard running. The boys must learn to overcome the pain/fatigue and kick it normally. If that's possible... hypnotism?
We all say.. I could've kicked that... but could we, after running flat chat for 10 mins?
I said to someone today...should make the whole squad run from Moorabbin to South Rd beach and back THEN make them take shots for goal
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If you want to teach someone to kick, you need a COACH.
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These guys would never run from Moorabbin to the beach - they are paid so much they would all take a taxi.
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Used to do this in my time ,suprised if something along this line is not done today ,practice makes perfect.I cannot think of one player in our side who you could call reliable when kicking for goalBigMart wrote:Need to practise the way golfers put.....
10 shots from 20M....any miss, back to zero
same from 30M, From 40M
then at 45 degrees.....both sides....
do it at the end of training, so the pressure is on to finish, or they will be there for hours......either way it is repetitive training..mental and physical.
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Kicking for goal?
What about the field kicking? Atrocious by both sides.
If we played the Doggies today we would have been smashed.
The game is football. The main skill should be kicking. Why when I go to training (and I have been to every open training session for the past 3 years) do I rarely see any kicking skills practise?
Obviously the open training session on a basketball court really set the team up for todays victory.
It is clear that Ross Lyin does not want any members or supporters at training.
He said that training last week was indoors because that was where we were playing today. Any idiot knew the roof would be open this afternoon.
Ross you are a joke!
What about the field kicking? Atrocious by both sides.
If we played the Doggies today we would have been smashed.
The game is football. The main skill should be kicking. Why when I go to training (and I have been to every open training session for the past 3 years) do I rarely see any kicking skills practise?
Obviously the open training session on a basketball court really set the team up for todays victory.
It is clear that Ross Lyin does not want any members or supporters at training.
He said that training last week was indoors because that was where we were playing today. Any idiot knew the roof would be open this afternoon.
Ross you are a joke!
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howlinwolf wrote:Excuse me "The Saintsaintal Man" for posting. I thought this was a place to discuss our club and the game. New poster or not.
Next Time I post I will send you out some Bex in advance for your headache. Just have a lie down. You'll be right.
Just calling my observations as I saw them.
good post mate.....after the pre season comp i posted that our goal kicking woops would cost us a flag...i got howled down....now i think that the kicking yips could cost us a place in the 8.....
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