Goddard's Back???

[Sanctorum]

Folloiwing hot off the press:

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/11/04/ ... nder-lyon/

Don't mind this at all, always thought Goddard would be a very good coach in the mould of Hinkley, Scott Bros, Voss, a hard nut who gives no quarter. At the very least he will put some fire in the bellies of a few that need it...

I know there'll be some who have not forgiven him for deserting the Saints but he had good reasons - money - which most professional athletes understandably consider a priority given their comparatively short time on the top of the tree.

The 2023 coaching panel is now totally transformed and contains a very good blend of different eggss, hard, medium hard and soft.

[The_Dud]

Are these the best guys for the role or is it just jobs for mates?

[skeptic]

Are these the best guys for the role or is it just jobs for mates?

It’s a good question. My first thought is that individually they’re all highly credentialed assistants.

Harvey is a seasoned assistant

Hayes has had a couple of years and is strongly recommended

Goddard is new but everyone has to start somewhere and most have always considered that he has a high football IQ.

The interesting thing here is that all come with a particular set of key characteristics: hard working, driven and serious to the point of obsession.

RL for all the criticisms too… well let’s just say his work rate is not in question.

Then you have Mission who is maybe not as important but obviously has worked well with RTB before and they get along which is a nice characteristic if he can still do the job.

So all in all… there’s a nice flavour here with one catch. I still question whether any of these guys could stand up to RL or challenge him with a better idea. It’d be nice to have a seasoned vet established on his own accord that wouldn’t necessarily see RL as a mentor.
Not saying these guys don’t have it… Harvey I’m particular really has spent a lot of time awAy from RTB. Without someone more obviously breaking on the mould… that will be the perception though

All in all

[WellardSaint]

I imagine every club's coaching structure has similar goals, like striving to make the club win more games, etc.
The question is, are all the staff on the same page with how they achieve this?
Or do some have different ideas that may not fit the bigger picture?
I'm thinking of Roughy getting former retired team-mates to the club, outwardly saying they provide depth and experience, but really he's just getting them an extra income stream cos they're good mates.
This is where the firm hand of G Walsh should be the firm hand on the ship's rudder.
Hopefully he tells Simon L to keep his nose out of footy stuff and stick to CEO stuff

[bakes]

The coaches are all a big tick for me. The big question I have is 'does the current list have the same drive/want for success as their coaches'? I think the answer for many is 'no'. It's going to take a few years of turning the list over and recruiting a bunch of players which have the 'drive'. I think the state competitions would be best for this e.g. Hayes, Wilkie, Lambert, Milne the list goes on, all of these guys had to work their butts off.

[WellardSaint]

Goddard might be a little peeved with the club falling away after Lyon left, and yes he says he's a Bomber now, but he has a soft spot for us.
He's a proud man, he's driven, and I'm certain he sees things he can improve, and he wants to help drive the change.
'Count me in' he's saying.

You know, at the end of 2023, he'll either:
a) leave- saying 'it's broken, can't be fixed' (he'd never admit he couldn't fix things)
or
b) he stays for the long haul because he's convinced the team is going upwards.

I'm being overly simple but I think having RTB+Hayes+Harves has been a huge magnet for him. And maybe he underestimates the size of the job.
We need support for Max, RoMa, Howard, and at least one big-bodied mid that can be like Cripps, Neale, Petracca.
Big ask. Can it be done?

[bigcarl]

I tip a fair bit of finger pointing at training. He will drive high standards

[bobmurray]

Goddard has accepted a development coaching role under Damian Carroll and will start with the Saints in the coming weeks.

I wonder if one of his tasks will be to stand on the roof of RSEA Park and point to which way the wind is blowing.

[whiskers3614]

Goddard has accepted a development coaching role under Damian Carroll and will start with the Saints in the coming weeks.

I wonder if one of his tasks will be to stand on the roof of RSEA Park and point to which way the wind is blowing.

Top performer in GF's, if some of his highly touted teammates had his heart we would now have 3 flags!

[1971]

Well I hope he improves Howard's finger pointing as it leaves a lot to be desired.

[bobmurray]

Goddard has accepted a development coaching role under Damian Carroll and will start with the Saints in the coming weeks.

I wonder if one of his tasks will be to stand on the roof of RSEA Park and point to which way the wind is blowing.

Top performer in GF's, if some of his highly touted teammates had his heart we would now have 3 flags!

Alas, we have none.

[bobmurray]

Goddard has accepted a development coaching role under Damian Carroll and will start with the Saints in the coming weeks.

I wonder if one of his tasks will be to stand on the roof of RSEA Park and point to which way the wind is blowing.

Top performer in GF's, if some of his highly touted teammates had his heart we would now have 3 flags!

Double post

[cwrcyn]

My first memory of Goddard was in his very first practice match at Princes Park. There was a secondary bounce in the centre. Goddard was at the stoppage and looked toward the defensive 50. He then pointed at Andrew Thompson, telling him he was in the wrong position and then pointed to where Thompson should stand, which was about 15m back and slightly to the left. The stoppage occurred, a quick kick came out and it landed on Thompson's chest without him having to move.

I thought to myself then "This guy, at 18, is not afraid to give feedback to senior players", but above all, he understood the situation far better than Thompson did.

That's the kind of stuff he can bring

[Templar]

Are these the best guys for the role or is it just jobs for mates?

Fair question and it makes you wonder, but another view, it is a much better option than having laise faire condescending pricks like Lloyd and dare I say it Roughead bringing the vibe down.

[Banger9798]

Hayes, Harvey and Goddard

That's a pretty impressive trio of Saints stars.

BJ is a smart footballer and very demanding, he will get right behind the team he played 200 games for.

Corey Enright is a keeper from what I can tell.

Exciting times

[Vortex]

The coaches are all a big tick for me. The big question I have is 'does the current list have the same drive/want for success as their coaches'? I think the answer for many is 'no'. It's going to take a few years of turning the list over and recruiting a bunch of players which have the 'drive'. I think the state competitions would be best for this e.g. Hayes, Wilkie, Lambert, Milne the list goes on, all of these guys had to work their butts off.

You have painted a beautiful picture of the elephant in the room, the list is still bog average with a severe mental fragility.

Not everyone responds well to "driving standads" and so it's hilarious listening to fan boys predicting RL has some type of impressive magic wand that can turn a cane toad into supreme A grade fighting machine. The reality could be we lose many and I suspect that is why we are now officially in a rebuild confirmed by Bassett saying we need to go backwards first.

[The Fireman]

My poll came to fruition and we now have a decent coach with a good support staff. The rest will follow. Yay

Come on vortex let ratts go and enjoy the ride

[Gershwin]

The coaches are all a big tick for me. The big question I have is 'does the current list have the same drive/want for success as their coaches'? I think the answer for many is 'no'. It's going to take a few years of turning the list over and recruiting a bunch of players which have the 'drive'. I think the state competitions would be best for this e.g. Hayes, Wilkie, Lambert, Milne the list goes on, all of these guys had to work their butts off.

You have painted a beautiful picture of the elephant in the room, the list is still bog average with a severe mental fragility.

Not everyone responds well to "driving standads" and so it's hilarious listening to fan boys predicting RL has some type of impressive magic wand that can turn a cane toad into supreme A grade fighting machine. The reality could be we lose many and I suspect that is why we are now officially in a rebuild confirmed by Bassett saying we need to go backwards first.

Yep.
I just can’t get the numbers 16, 14, 14, 13 out of my head.
The ladder position Fremantle finished in the last 4 years under Lyon. He ain’t the messiah.

[cwrcyn]

What's great about all these appointments is that these guys are motivated by what's best for St Kilda, not what's best for themselves. They will be fully invested in the short and long term future of the club they love, rather than a temporary gig that looks good on their CV and keeps them in the system.

It really matters to them

[damienc]

What's great about all these appointments is that these guys are motivated by what's best for St Kilda, not what's best for themselves. They will be fully invested in the short and long term future of the club they love, rather than a temporary gig that looks good on their CV and keeps them in the system.

It really matters to them

Well said.

[saint6709]

Never have I seen a better mark than Goddards in the GF in the goal square in the GF in the last - right in front of me !!! At that point I thought we had it - BRING HIM DOWN

[saint6709]

For those who don’t remember- no one was more invested than him on the day- playing for his brother who was in prison- HEART ON SLEEVE

[Ghost Like]

Goddard might be a little peeved with the club falling away after Lyon left, and yes he says he's a Bomber now, but he has a soft spot for us.
He's a proud man, he's driven, and I'm certain he sees things he can improve, and he wants to help drive the change.
'Count me in' he's saying.

You know, at the end of 2023, he'll either:
a) leave- saying 'it's broken, can't be fixed' (he'd never admit he couldn't fix things)
or
b) he stays for the long haul because he's convinced the team is going upwards.

I'm being overly simple but I think having RTB+Hayes+Harves has been a huge magnet for him. And maybe he underestimates the size of the job.
We need support for Max, RoMa, Howard, and at least one big-bodied mid that can be like Cripps, Neale, Petracca.
Big ask. Can it be done?

If it's "A" then he should never have been selected. He should have stayed with the club he slinked off to. That was about money, nothing else!

[WellardSaint]

What's great about all these appointments is that these guys are motivated by what's best for St Kilda, not what's best for themselves. They will be fully invested in the short and long term future of the club they love, rather than a temporary gig that looks good on their CV and keeps them in the system.

It really matters to them

Mcrae was a champion Lion.
Goodwin was a Crow.
Hardwick won a flag with the Injectors, and played for Power at the end.
That's flamin' ridiculous to suggest that only former players of a club would be invested in their club's success, and work hard to bring glory to that club.
It's the sort of talk that we hear from the mouths of cab drivers who know how to fix:
World hunger
Global Warming
Inflation
Rising interest rates
And anything else they are experts in.

You need to get out more

[bobmurray]

What's great about all these appointments is that these guys are motivated by what's best for St Kilda, not what's best for themselves. They will be fully invested in the short and long term future of the club they love, rather than a temporary gig that looks good on their CV and keeps them in the system.

It really matters to them

It's the sort of talk that we hear from the mouths of cab drivers who know how to fix:
World hunger
Global Warming
Inflation
Rising interest rates
And anything else they are experts in.

You need to get out more

You are underestimating Fan forum posters, they know all the answers, you should read more.