Max King

[bangaulegend]

Just watched the replay & thought Max was good last night especially up the ground some really strong contested marks & ended up with 3 goals so he might have some of the knockers of his back until next week anyway

[saynta]

Just watched the replay & thought Max was good last night especially up the ground some really strong contested marks & ended up with 3 goals so he might have some of the knockers of his back until next week anyway

Give the grubs time. I'm sure they will turn on the saints at the first opportunity.

Impressed with Max though. Agile for a bloke his size.

[Teflon]

Just watched the replay & thought Max was good last night especially up the ground some really strong contested marks & ended up with 3 goals so he might have some of the knockers of his back until next week anyway

Agreed
I’d rather King kick 3 every week with 3-4 goal kickers spread across the field to be honest
He was also important as a link player
I can’t believe anyone would suggest he didn’t have a hood game??

[Vortex]

He's really struggling to live up to the hype isn't he.

Has he had a breakout game yet or a game that belies his DP4 draft standing.

The excuse seems to be he's only 22 but I'm not so sure.

If he's not careful the media will turn on him and start to openly ask these types of questions.

[saynta]

He's really struggling to live up to the hype isn't he.

Has he had a breakout game yet or a game that belies his DP4 draft standing.

The excuse seems to be he's only 22 but I'm not so sure.

If he's not careful the media will turn on him and start to openly ask these types of questions.

Not before you it would seem.

[takeaway]

He's really struggling to live up to the hype isn't he.

Has he had a breakout game yet or a game that belies his DP4 draft standing.

The excuse seems to be he's only 22 but I'm not so sure.

If he's not careful the media will turn on him and start to openly ask these types of questions.

Nice try at vortexing.

Max is 4th in the goalkicking, will probably kick over 50 goals this year, in a forward line which has often been disjointed and often he is competing against at least two opponents.

His conversion rate is the worst amongst the top 20 goal kickers this year, if he improved conversion to their level he would be about second in the goalkicking. Needs to improve that aspect, otherwise he's fine.

We need to sort out the functioning of the forward line, more to the point.

[Vortex]

He's really struggling to live up to the hype isn't he.

Has he had a breakout game yet or a game that belies his DP4 draft standing.

The excuse seems to be he's only 22 but I'm not so sure.

If he's not careful the media will turn on him and start to openly ask these types of questions.

Nice try at vortexing.

Max is 4th in the goalkicking, will probably kick over 50 goals this year, in a forward line which has often been disjointed and often he is competing against at least two opponents.

His conversion rate is the worst amongst the top 20 goal kickers this year, if he improved conversion to their level he would be about second in the goalkicking. Needs to improve that aspect, otherwise he's fine.

We need to sort out the functioning of the forward line, more to the point.

Levi Casboult is on 33 with a game to play today.

[Teflon]

2.5 needs to kick them but if he kicks 5.2 he’s a super star
Anyway next thread

[Teflon]

2.5 needs to kick them but if he kicks 5.2 he’s a super star
Anyway next thread

[Vortex]

2.5 needs to kick them but if he kicks 5.2 he’s a super star
Anyway next thread

That's what the GC Suns supporters say about Levi Casboult.

[Teflon]

2.5 needs to kick them but if he kicks 5.2 he’s a super star
Anyway next thread

That's what the GC Suns supporters say about Levi Casboult.

Yeah but I think Levi’s had a few more games than Max…so I’m comfortable in Max’s career trajectory
Are you saying Levi’s as good as Max ??
Fascinating..
Sharman you might have a point right now…
But do tell us all why Max is no good now and won’t make it…

[D.B.Cooper]

2.5 needs to kick them but if he kicks 5.2 he’s a super star
Anyway next thread

That's what the GC Suns supporters say about Levi Casboult.

Yeah but I think Levi’s had a few more games than Max…so I’m comfortable in Max’s career trajectory
Are you saying Levi’s as good as Max ??
Fascinating..
Sharman you might have a point right now…
But do tell us all why Max is no good now and won’t make it…

Stop being so sensible Teffers.

Max has had three seasons post ACL and he’s not Plugger standard yet so he’s a bust #4 pick with mental & algae problems.

Don’t look at Harry McKay as a similar comparison who took 5-6 seasons to develop into a consistent damaging key forward, pot the young man as a bust #4 pick who is ahead of McKay at the same age because he is not Wayne Carey yet.

FWIW and only on TV, I thought he looked pretty good and mobile last night playing higher up the ground and appeared to lead more at the kicker.

Obviously set shots still an issue.

[terry smith rules]

2.5 needs to kick them but if he kicks 5.2 he’s a super star
Anyway next thread

That's what the GC Suns supporters say about Levi Casboult.

Yeah but I think Levi’s had a few more games than Max…so I’m comfortable in Max’s career trajectory
Are you saying Levi’s as good as Max ??
Fascinating..
Sharman you might have a point right now…
But do tell us all why Max is no good now and won’t make it…

Stop being so sensible Teffers.

Max has had three seasons post ACL and he’s not Plugger standard yet so he’s a bust #4 pick with mental & algae problems.

Don’t look at Harry McKay as a similar comparison who took 5-6 seasons to develop into a consistent damaging key forward, pot the young man as a bust #4 pick who is ahead of McKay at the same age because he is not Wayne Carey yet.

FWIW and only on TV, I thought he looked pretty good and mobile last night playing higher up the ground and appeared to lead more at the kicker.

Obviously set shots still an issue.

Agreed ridiculous criticism of Max

I just did a comparison of Max and H McKay for this year (Harry is 2 years older). Their figures for this year are almost identical (courtesy AFL stats)

Then I looked up Hawkins as a young player, it took him until his 6th season (really 4th as first two not many games) to kick over 40 goals

I think Max is doing really well and as I have said can’t wait for 2024 and have him surrounded by NWM, Marcus and Mitch, it’s going to be fun

[Sainter_Dad]

On Max King

- Screaming for a tall forward who can take marks
- Looking for a player half decent below the knees

At 50 games Max is filling both these roles - gives us a tall and - effectively another small
I would still imagine he would draw to 5 in a draft

He is a gun - and will get his kicking sorted - will probably spend all off season on it - someone needs to just settle his routine

The top 5 in the current Coleman race:

Player	Club	Goals	Total Goals	Games	Average
Charlie Curnow	Carlton	59	129	78	1.65
Jeremy Cameron	Geelong	54	520	205	2.54
Tom Hawkins	Geelong	51	714	321	2.22
Max King	St Kilda	46	98	53	1.85
Peter Wright	Essendon	45	159	105	1.51

I for one am happy with his progress - sure I want 10 goals a game - but 2.5 as an average puts you in Cameron territory and he is 35 goals from that (21 and he shares an average with Hawkins) - so a couple of 'bags' and he will be there

He IS a once in a generation player - FFS - back off and let him mature

He is 22 years old and usually draws the #1 defender - in fact usually draws 2 or 3 - it is up to the rest of the team to provide the separation to help Maxxy master his craft

[Yorkeys]

I suppose GameDay life will remain tough for Max as long as we don't have another marking tall fwd, Brad Hill can't get much of the ball and we don't have another good kick at centre bounces.

[Sainter_Dad]

I suppose GameDay life will remain tough for Max as long as we don't have another marking tall fwd, Brad Hill can't get much of the ball and we don't have another good kick at centre bounces.

LOL - or if we have say - Long streaming towards goal unmarked and we look for King in the Pocket

Higgins would have had time to retrieve the ball - take his boots off - swap them for the other feet - re-tie them - and then kick the goal - but we kick it to King

[Yorkeys]

I suppose GameDay life will remain tough for Max as long as we don't have another marking tall fwd, Brad Hill can't get much of the ball and we don't have another good kick at centre bounces.

LOL - or if we have say - Higgins streaming towards goal unmarked and we look for King in the Pocket

Higgins would have had time to retrieve the ball - take his boots off - swap them for the other feet - re-tie them - and then kick the goal - but we kick it to King

Good illustration. So predictable.
And as a side bar, Higgins needs to make himself more dangerous and demand.

[skeptic]

I suppose GameDay life will remain tough for Max as long as we don't have another marking tall fwd, Brad Hill can't get much of the ball and we don't have another good kick at centre bounces.

LOL - or if we have say - Higgins streaming towards goal unmarked and we look for King in the Pocket

Higgins would have had time to retrieve the ball - take his boots off - swap them for the other feet - re-tie them - and then kick the goal - but we kick it to King

Good illustration. So predictable.
And as a side bar, Higgins needs to make himself more dangerous and demand.

I think the demand isn’t the issue... he did that a lot and rather consistently earlier in the year

He simply needs to be more confident in drilling those so that his team mates back him to do it

[The_Dud]

Secret_Vortex is just blessing us with some more of his customary horrible takes!

Kicked 2.5 but had a lot of low percentage shots. Needs to get out of the pockets.

And pretty sure he won the Adelaide game off his own boot.

How many blokes have we had not named Roo who have kicked 50 goals in a season in the last 15 years?

[The Fireman]

He's really struggling to live up to the hype isn't he.

Has he had a breakout game yet or a game that belies his DP4 draft standing.

The excuse seems to be he's only 22 but I'm not so sure.

If he's not careful the media will turn on him and start to openly ask these types of questions.

I’m sure you say things like this just to get a rise out of everyone and you said I was like Ernie

[Sainter_Dad]

How many blokes have we had not named Roo who have kicked 50 goals in a season in the last 15 years?

No No No - this is Saintsational - stop making sense!

Year	Player	Goals	Behinds
2022	Max King	44	31
2021	Max King	38	30
2020	Dan Butler	27	11
2019	Tim Membrey	44	17
2018	Jade Gresham	35	20
2017	Tim Membrey	38	14
2016	Tim Membrey	44	18
2015	Josh Bruce	50	24
2014	Nick Riewoldt	49	21
2013	Nick Riewoldt	50	36
2012	Stephen Milne	56	38
2011	Stephen Milne	55	32
2010	Stephen Milne	48	27
2009	Nick Riewoldt	68	44
2008	Nick Riewoldt	56	39
2007	Fraser Gehrig	59	35
2006	Fraser Gehrig	68	35
2005	Fraser Gehrig	74	47
2004	Fraser Gehrig	90	34
2003	Fraser Gehrig	55	34
2002	Stephen Milne	50	11

Last 20 years of highest St Kilda goal kickers
So last 10 years:
2015 - Josh Bruce - 50
2013 - Nick Reiwoldt - 50
2012 - Stephen Milne - 56

Pretty sure Max sits comfortable in those names

https://afltables.com/afl/teams/stkilda/leadinggk.html

[Vortex]

He's really struggling to live up to the hype isn't he.

Has he had a breakout game yet or a game that belies his DP4 draft standing.

The excuse seems to be he's only 22 but I'm not so sure.

If he's not careful the media will turn on him and start to openly ask these types of questions.

I’m sure you say things like this just to get a rise out of everyone and you said I was like Ernie

no question of that at all, it's a fargin forum, if we all came on here and said the same thing because we lacked freedom of thought wouldn't it be a real boring place then huh.

[The Fireman]

He's really struggling to live up to the hype isn't he.

Has he had a breakout game yet or a game that belies his DP4 draft standing.

The excuse seems to be he's only 22 but I'm not so sure.

If he's not careful the media will turn on him and start to openly ask these types of questions.

I’m sure you say things like this just to get a rise out of everyone and you said I was like Ernie

no question of that at all, it's a fargin forum, if we all came on here and said the same thing because we lacked freedom of thought wouldn't it be a real boring place then huh.

So you are using ernie as a role model

[CQ SAINT]

How many blokes have we had not named Roo who have kicked 50 goals in a season in the last 15 years?

No No No - this is Saintsational - stop making sense!

Year	Player	Goals	Behinds
2022	Max King	44	31
2021	Max King	38	30
2020	Dan Butler	27	11
2019	Tim Membrey	44	17
2018	Jade Gresham	35	20
2017	Tim Membrey	38	14
2016	Tim Membrey	44	18
2015	Josh Bruce	50	24
2014	Nick Riewoldt	49	21
2013	Nick Riewoldt	50	36
2012	Stephen Milne	56	38
2011	Stephen Milne	55	32
2010	Stephen Milne	48	27
2009	Nick Riewoldt	68	44
2008	Nick Riewoldt	56	39
2007	Fraser Gehrig	59	35
2006	Fraser Gehrig	68	35
2005	Fraser Gehrig	74	47
2004	Fraser Gehrig	90	34
2003	Fraser Gehrig	55	34
2002	Stephen Milne	50	11

Last 20 years of highest St Kilda goal kickers
So last 10 years:
2015 - Josh Bruce - 50
2013 - Nick Reiwoldt - 50
2012 - Stephen Milne - 56

Pretty sure Max sits comfortable in those names

https://afltables.com/afl/teams/stkilda/leadinggk.html

And is just getting started. Bring back Hayes and secure a front line tap ruckman and the next 5 years will just get better.

[Vortex]

He's really struggling to live up to the hype isn't he.

Has he had a breakout game yet or a game that belies his DP4 draft standing.

The excuse seems to be he's only 22 but I'm not so sure.

If he's not careful the media will turn on him and start to openly ask these types of questions.

I’m sure you say things like this just to get a rise out of everyone and you said I was like Ernie

no question of that at all, it's a fargin forum, if we all came on here and said the same thing because we lacked freedom of thought wouldn't it be a real boring place then huh.

So Ernie was ok ?

it's a forum with anonymous posters...perspective.