47 - HAYES

[Vortex]

Our recruiters should be very happy with themselves tonight.

Hayes is going to create a really nice selection challenge this week.

[Wayne42]

Hayes should be the first picked for the Freo game, there's other players that played tonight that should be left in Melbourne next weekend.

[Otiman]

BOG. Will be hard to slot Ryder in his place.

[bigcarl]

BOG. Will be hard to slot Ryder in his place.

Play both. Hayes can play various positions. He’s a pinch-hitting ruckman only, Maybe means Marshall can play forward the whole game or he and Hayes can share second ruck duties.

[WellardSaint]

AFL gives him 2nd best on, just behind Lipinski

[saint6709]

Was easily the best player on the ground for the third quarter and probably our best for the night

[skeptic]

To be honest…
He could play pinch hitting ruck, as a midfielder or as a small forward for all I care on that performance.

[Zed]

Heart of a lion
Very impressive
Best or tied for best with Marshall
I was not convinced that he should be picked. I was very wrong.

[WellardSaint]

On TV (I live in Perth) he appears slow and lumbering, but to his credit, he dishes off before he gets caught, so has good awareness. IMHO

[skeptic]

Apologies to Vortex for the name drop… but he made the observation (in a funny way) that they may be the best quarter he’ll ever play!

I think it’s a reasonable point to remember he’s a debutant and for us all to lower the expectations a touch for next week. A blinder of a 1/4 out of nowhere that led to a reversal of dominance and saw us nearly pinch the match out of nothing!!! Will pbly be a bit quieter next week

That being said, I loved it

[bigcarl]

On TV (I live in Perth) he appears slow and lumbering, but to his credit, he dishes off before he gets caught, so has good awareness. IMHO

Pace isn’t everything. From what I can see he’s strong and plays taller than he is and makes good decisions

[CQ SAINT]

He is 8cm shorter than Marshall. Other than that, based on what I saw on my TV tonight, he is pretty effing comparable barring the obvious lack of height.
In fact, Marshall could learn from the way he attacks the ruck and King could get some kicking lesson.
He has been compared to Blake, maybe Stewie Loewe is a better comparison.

[BringBackMadDog]

He was fantastic but he’s no ruck man. We lost centre clearances 18-9 and Grundy destroyed both him and Marshall at centre bounces. Ryder has to come back in when available. Hayes can play a roaming forward role

[CQ SAINT]

Max King spends a lot of time getting monstered under the ball as a deep forward. I mean really monstered.
Would it be so ridiculous to try him in the ruck?
At least he would get a clear run at every ball up and only have to grapple one player at throw ins.
Hayes leads, has very strong hands and looks much more capable of actually crashing a pack.

[CQ SAINT]

Seriously, if Max could ruck, You could play Ryder, Marshall, King, Hayes and Sharman all at once and just keep the ruckman in the defensive half with a 50/50 tap chance in every stoppage.

[The_Dud]

You can tell he hasn’t been at the club long enough to learn the ‘Saints’ system properly yet!

[B.M]

That would be too tall and too slow

[bakes]

What about that mark / free kick over the shoulder that he wasn’t paid in the last 2 minutes near our goal square . Of course it had to be Ray Chamberlain, he’s be the only umpire not to pay that .

[CQ SAINT]

That would be too tall and too slow

Compared to what? They are actually pretty mobile and their job is to catch the ball.
Are the 190 brigade of Wood, Battle and Highmore fast?

[saynta]

Heart of a lion
Very impressive
Best or tied for best with Marshall
I was not convinced that he should be picked. I was very wrong.

I was convinced that he was going to be picked for this match as soon as he came to the club. And I was spot on right.

[perfectionist]

He played well around the ground and in front of goal. His one grab marking was outstanding and his kicking for goal is good. However, he won just two hit outs for the game, since he is too short for modern day ruck and doesn't possess the leap that (say) enabled Jason Blake to win centre ruck contests. Jack is 192 cm tall (6 feet 3½ inches in the imperial scale). That's the dilemma, one which has stopped him from getting a game elsewhere before now. On the positive side, he has been captain of his SA club, so it would appear that he has leadership skills. If Paddy ever returns, and RoMa hasn't been run into the ground, I would play Jack at FF and move Tim Membrey to a half forward position and get rid of one of the midgets.

[spert]

Where's all this talk of Sharman being a part time ruckman come from- he's a pure and natural forward. Hayes is a utility ruck/ forward. Both can exist in the same team

[saynta]

What about that mark / free kick over the shoulder that he wasn’t paid in the last 2 minutes near our goal square . Of course it had to be Ray Chamberlain, he’s be the only umpire not to pay that .

It was f****** disgraceful and typical form from that little maggot Razor Ray.

If the AFL wants players and supporters to pay more respect to umpires they should get rid of cheating little deadshits like Razor Ray from their ranks.

[Ghost Like]

He's a Blardiner, a Blake / Gardiner hybrid. He wills himself to contests, competes, scraps and refuses to wave a white flag when the odds are against him.

He's no centre bounce ruck but neither is Marshall, their value is from contest to contest - both are 2nd rucks at best, ruck rovers at worst.

[saintsRrising]

Heart of a lion
Very impressive
Best or tied for best with Marshall
I was not convinced that he should be picked. I was very wrong.

I was convinced that he was going to be picked for this match as soon as he came to the club. And I was spot on right.

As opposed to the other 99% of St Kilda fans who also thought with no Ryder that Hayes would play in his place?