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Hannebury takes a pay cut

Post: # 1924762Post ausfatcat »

St Kilda’s Dan Hannebery is believed to have made a financial sacrifice that could help the club’s cap space given only 15 games in three seasons.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/mone ... f239026895

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Post: # 1924764Post skeptic »

This was posted a while ago

I’m led to believe the club tried to negotiate a pay out/ retirement but the couldn’t get close to terms

No doubt Hannebery will be praised for his incredible sacrifice and great character for taking a pay cut to north of $450k (though I reckon it’s quite a bit higher) for his final year after playing 30odd games in three seasons


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ISkeptic,
I wonder if he was picked on merit for those last two games..but then the soup has many a varied pea swimming in it.


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Post: # 1924767Post Wayne42 »

Let's hope the Hannebery gamble ends at the completion of 2022. Lethers can then put it in his ever expanding failures folder.

I wonder why Dan did it, who pricked his money for jam conscience ?


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shanegrambeau wrote: Sat 04 Sep 2021 12:13am ISkeptic,
I wonder if he was picked on merit for those last two games..but then the soup has many a varied pea swimming in it.
Going by his performances I would say he was. You might question why he came back so late in the season but there was next to nobody available. He is still a very good player.


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Hypothetically speaking, say Dan was able to etch out 2 to 3 years of good football before retirement, would that change things and leave fans with a more positive view about his time at the club?


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shanegrambeau wrote: Sat 04 Sep 2021 12:13am ISkeptic,
I wonder if he was picked on merit for those last two games..but then the soup has many a varied pea swimming in it.
really we had barely any fit players. And to be honest, he was travelling a bit better than Connelly if you want to talk merit... one could argue that Connolly has shown promise and needs game time but that is not an argument based on merit.

So, in the circumstances, I recon Hannebury was selected on merit

I also applaud his taking a pay cut.

There may be more to it.. for example, he has clearly missed his triggers for a 5th year so he wont get a 2023 contract at this stage and he would not be very attractive to other clubs at the end of 2022. So he may have taken a cut for 2022 but worked in a new trigger for a 2023 contract (presumably on relatively modest pay but more than he would have gotten if he ended 2022 without any contract.)

But regardless, he has helped out the club and done the right thing.


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I believe that someone posted a Herald Sun article saying that the negotiated pay deal was same money for 2022 - but spread over 2022 and 2023 - so 50% cut but 200% duration.


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SuperDuper wrote: Sat 04 Sep 2021 8:50am
shanegrambeau wrote: Sat 04 Sep 2021 12:13am ISkeptic,
I wonder if he was picked on merit for those last two games..but then the soup has many a varied pea swimming in it.
really we had barely any fit players. And to be honest, he was travelling a bit better than Connelly if you want to talk merit... one could argue that Connolly has shown promise and needs game time but that is not an argument based on merit.

So, in the circumstances, I recon Hannebury was selected on merit

I also applaud his taking a pay cut.

There may be more to it.. for example, he has clearly missed his triggers for a 5th year so he wont get a 2023 contract at this stage and he would not be very attractive to other clubs at the end of 2022. So he may have taken a cut for 2022 but worked in a new trigger for a 2023 contract (presumably on relatively modest pay but more than he would have gotten if he ended 2022 without any contract.)

But regardless, he has helped out the club and done the right thing.
Good post.


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Vortex wrote: Sat 04 Sep 2021 8:24am Hypothetically speaking, say Dan was able to etch out 2 to 3 years of good football before retirement, would that change things and leave fans with a more positive view about his time at the club?
If you took yearly contracts on peanuts, I guess

But the reality is that he’s played about 1/3 of 2 years on a contract that’s only seen him get more than $500k a year for it.
Even if he drops a couple $100k… still way over paid


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Let’s be honest at the end of the season we were desperate to get 22 players on the park and Hannebery was at the bottom of that list. Not saying he didn’t play well etc but there would have been a few players in front of him if not for injuries.
If the club has any brains they would play close attention to his trigger clause which I assumed is based around games played next year. Pump games into younger players with Hannebery playing for two or three week intervals then resting due to his body. If done correctly he may give some service to the club that paid him probably 40k a game yet not burden is in 2023


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Post: # 1924822Post Wayne42 »

Here's some good news, Matt Crouch has re-signed with the Crows. :lol:


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There will always be two recruitment case studies taught at AFL Professionals school, coaches theory classes and Sports Administration undergrad classes:
the shot in the foot that was McCartin v Petracca and the sting of Hannebery.

We should copyright them as our IP, or is that non-IP.

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Yorkeys wrote: Sat 04 Sep 2021 1:19pm There will always be two recruitment case studies taught at AFL Professionals school, coaches theory classes and Sports Administration undergrad classes:
the shot in the foot that was McCartin v Petracca and the sting of Hannebery.

We should copyright them as our IP, or is that non-IP.

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Vortex wrote: Sat 04 Sep 2021 8:24am Hypothetically speaking, say Dan was able to etch out 2 to 3 years of good football before retirement, would that change things and leave fans with a more positive view about his time at the club?
If Hannebery manages to remain 100% fit I'm quite sure he will play a lot of games next year. Apart from his elite skills he will provide significant on-field leadership, especially around the clearances, which will make the team a lot more competitive than what it was in 2021 - and avoid the devastating losses such as the season ending one against Adelaide in round 13.


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Sanctorum wrote: Sat 04 Sep 2021 2:29pm
Vortex wrote: Sat 04 Sep 2021 8:24am Hypothetically speaking, say Dan was able to etch out 2 to 3 years of good football before retirement, would that change things and leave fans with a more positive view about his time at the club?
If Hannebery manages to remain 100% fit I'm quite sure he will play a lot of games next year. Apart from his elite skills he will provide significant on-field leadership, especially around the clearances, which will make the team a lot more competitive than what it was in 2021 - and avoid the devastating losses such as the season ending one against Adelaide in round 13.
Good post with insightful comments.


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whiskers3614 wrote: Sat 04 Sep 2021 1:51pm
Yorkeys wrote: Sat 04 Sep 2021 1:19pm There will always be two recruitment case studies taught at AFL Professionals school, coaches theory classes and Sports Administration undergrad classes:
the shot in the foot that was McCartin v Petracca and the sting of Hannebery.

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Is it a sign that money is tight in the industry due to several players having to take paycuts after shopping themselves around for more money but finding no takers?


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Vortex wrote: Sun 05 Sep 2021 9:40am Is it a sign that money is tight in the industry due to several players having to take paycuts after shopping themselves around for more money but finding no takers?
Was that the sign that told you money was tight?


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CQ SAINT wrote: Sun 05 Sep 2021 9:52am
Vortex wrote: Sun 05 Sep 2021 9:40am Is it a sign that money is tight in the industry due to several players having to take paycuts after shopping themselves around for more money but finding no takers?
Was that the sign that told you money was tight?
I think the free agency market could be tough for a few years.


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Vortex wrote: Sun 05 Sep 2021 10:02am
CQ SAINT wrote: Sun 05 Sep 2021 9:52am
Vortex wrote: Sun 05 Sep 2021 9:40am Is it a sign that money is tight in the industry due to several players having to take paycuts after shopping themselves around for more money but finding no takers?
Was that the sign that told you money was tight?
I think the free agency market could be tough for a few years.
Perhaps, but a bigger piece of any size pie, is still more pie.


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CQ SAINT wrote: Sun 05 Sep 2021 10:22am
Vortex wrote: Sun 05 Sep 2021 10:02am
CQ SAINT wrote: Sun 05 Sep 2021 9:52am
Vortex wrote: Sun 05 Sep 2021 9:40am Is it a sign that money is tight in the industry due to several players having to take paycuts after shopping themselves around for more money but finding no takers?
Was that the sign that told you money was tight?
I think the free agency market could be tough for a few years.
Perhaps, but a bigger piece of any size pie, is still more pie.
The pie started shrinking last year, and considerably. And media reports suggest Rupert will be asking for a further reduction to the cost of the media rights although it looks like the AFL might play Rupert off against Google and Amazon and the like for the next deal so maybe that might help the AFL secure a better deal.


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Vortex wrote: Sun 05 Sep 2021 10:33am
The pie started shrinking last year, and considerably. And media reports suggest Rupert will be asking for a further reduction to the cost of the media rights although it looks like the AFL might play Rupert off against Google and Amazon and the like for the next deal so maybe that might help the AFL secure a better deal.
Seriously - with the last two years being viewed mostly via the small screen - how the heck could anyone be asking for a cost reduction - he has a locked in audience.


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Sainter_Dad wrote: Sun 05 Sep 2021 11:37am
Vortex wrote: Sun 05 Sep 2021 10:33am
The pie started shrinking last year, and considerably. And media reports suggest Rupert will be asking for a further reduction to the cost of the media rights although it looks like the AFL might play Rupert off against Google and Amazon and the like for the next deal so maybe that might help the AFL secure a better deal.
Seriously - with the last two years being viewed mostly via the small screen - how the heck could anyone be asking for a cost reduction - he has a locked in audience.
You'd think that would be the case however Murdoch argued the game has been de valued by COVID and successfully as he was duly given his cost reduction on progress payments.

I hate to admit it but Murdoch is right, the quality of the game is COViD effected.


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Last and this year have had record high TV ratings, don’t let any Chicken Littles get to you, they’ve been desperately trying for almost 2 years now!


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