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Re: Hickey, Bruce and Hind

Post: # 1920643Post The Fireman »

CURLY wrote: Sun 15 Aug 2021 10:20pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 15 Aug 2021 8:47pm So we could have had Hind, Acres, a first and a second round draft pick…

But instead we have Hill…

Great list management… 🤦‍♂️
Love to see people’s thoughts on these moves before and while they were happening.
. I was rapt


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Re: Hickey, Bruce and Hind

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The Fireman wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 7:18pm
CURLY wrote: Sun 15 Aug 2021 10:20pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 15 Aug 2021 8:47pm So we could have had Hind, Acres, a first and a second round draft pick…

But instead we have Hill…

Great list management… 🤦‍♂️
Love to see people’s thoughts on these moves before and while they were happening.
. I was rapt

Yep exactly. Imagine if we lost out to Melbourne. The we can’t attract anyone what’s going we’re rudderless and so on.


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Re: Hickey, Bruce and Hind

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CURLY wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 7:47pm
The Fireman wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 7:18pm
CURLY wrote: Sun 15 Aug 2021 10:20pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 15 Aug 2021 8:47pm So we could have had Hind, Acres, a first and a second round draft pick…

But instead we have Hill…

Great list management… 🤦‍♂️
Love to see people’s thoughts on these moves before and while they were happening.
. I was rapt

Yep exactly. Imagine if we lost out to Melbourne. The we can’t attract anyone what’s going we’re rudderless and so on.
Still payed way overs & he has been solid needs to be better IMO for the money he is on better value than Hannebery


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Re: Hickey, Bruce and Hind

Post: # 1920654Post CURLY »

bangaulegend wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 8:35pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 7:47pm
The Fireman wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 7:18pm
CURLY wrote: Sun 15 Aug 2021 10:20pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 15 Aug 2021 8:47pm So we could have had Hind, Acres, a first and a second round draft pick…

But instead we have Hill…

Great list management… 🤦‍♂️
Love to see people’s thoughts on these moves before and while they were happening.
. I was rapt

Yep exactly. Imagine if we lost out to Melbourne. The we can’t attract anyone what’s going we’re rudderless and so on.
Still payed way overs & he has been solid needs to be better IMO for the money he is on better value than Hannebery
Demand dictates value.


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Re: Hickey, Bruce and Hind

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CURLY wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 8:44pm
bangaulegend wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 8:35pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 7:47pm
The Fireman wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 7:18pm
CURLY wrote: Sun 15 Aug 2021 10:20pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 15 Aug 2021 8:47pm So we could have had Hind, Acres, a first and a second round draft pick…

But instead we have Hill…

Great list management… 🤦‍♂️
Love to see people’s thoughts on these moves before and while they were happening.
. I was rapt

Yep exactly. Imagine if we lost out to Melbourne. The we can’t attract anyone what’s going we’re rudderless and so on.
Still payed way overs & he has been solid needs to be better IMO for the money he is on better value than Hannebery
Demand dictates value.
And that's worked well for us . Fair enough we need to attract players but both Hill & Hannebery deals have given us a massive hand brake in salary cap pain IMO need to be a lot smarter in recruitment.


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Re: Hickey, Bruce and Hind

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IluvHarvey wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 7:05pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 15 Aug 2021 7:01pm Just a lazy 30 touches (21 kicks) at 83% and a goal for Hind…

But lucky we have Hill instead! 🤦‍♂️
It's absolutely pointless comparing the Hind who played for us and the Hind that plays for the Drug Cheats.
Hind was never looked at as a running half back for us and if he was still on our list would be used as a back up small forward still.
We haven't lost anything with him going to the Druggies because he would have never had the opportunity to play in the backline, where he is at the moment as Sinclair, Hill and Clark all have the spot over him.
So what’s that say about our club when we have a player on our list for years and we couldn’t work out where he would thrive?

He is also playing better than Hill and Clark, and equal to Sinclair in that role.


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Re: Hickey, Bruce and Hind

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bangaulegend wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 9:05pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 8:44pm
bangaulegend wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 8:35pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 7:47pm
The Fireman wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 7:18pm
CURLY wrote: Sun 15 Aug 2021 10:20pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 15 Aug 2021 8:47pm So we could have had Hind, Acres, a first and a second round draft pick…

But instead we have Hill…

Great list management… 🤦‍♂️
Love to see people’s thoughts on these moves before and while they were happening.
. I was rapt

Yep exactly. Imagine if we lost out to Melbourne. The we can’t attract anyone what’s going we’re rudderless and so on.
Still payed way overs & he has been solid needs to be better IMO for the money he is on better value than Hannebery
Demand dictates value.
And that's worked well for us . Fair enough we need to attract players but both Hill & Hannebery deals have given us a massive hand brake in salary cap pain IMO need to be a lot smarter in recruitment.
They’ve had a combined 5 seasons at the club, at a cost of approx $4M+, for a return of maybe ONE top ten B&F finish, and that’s only if Hill manages to Bradbury his way in there this year.

There’s no way you can cut it where it is not a absolute disaster so far.


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Re: Hickey, Bruce and Hind

Post: # 1920705Post CURLY »

The_Dud wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 9:40pm
IluvHarvey wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 7:05pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 15 Aug 2021 7:01pm Just a lazy 30 touches (21 kicks) at 83% and a goal for Hind…

But lucky we have Hill instead! 🤦‍♂️
It's absolutely pointless comparing the Hind who played for us and the Hind that plays for the Drug Cheats.
Hind was never looked at as a running half back for us and if he was still on our list would be used as a back up small forward still.
We haven't lost anything with him going to the Druggies because he would have never had the opportunity to play in the backline, where he is at the moment as Sinclair, Hill and Clark all have the spot over him.
So what’s that say about our club when we have a player on our list for years and we couldn’t work out where he would thrive?

He is also playing better than Hill and Clark, and equal to Sinclair in that role.
He's not playing as well as Sinclair.


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Re: Hickey, Bruce and Hind

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CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Aug 2021 8:26am
The_Dud wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 9:40pm
IluvHarvey wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 7:05pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 15 Aug 2021 7:01pm Just a lazy 30 touches (21 kicks) at 83% and a goal for Hind…

But lucky we have Hill instead! 🤦‍♂️
It's absolutely pointless comparing the Hind who played for us and the Hind that plays for the Drug Cheats.
Hind was never looked at as a running half back for us and if he was still on our list would be used as a back up small forward still.
We haven't lost anything with him going to the Druggies because he would have never had the opportunity to play in the backline, where he is at the moment as Sinclair, Hill and Clark all have the spot over him.
So what’s that say about our club when we have a player on our list for years and we couldn’t work out where he would thrive?

He is also playing better than Hill and Clark, and equal to Sinclair in that role.
He's not playing as well as Sinclair.
He got 30 possessions on Sunday Curly - Hind is playing as well as Sinclair, let's be honest. He's one we definitely should have kept.


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Re: Hickey, Bruce and Hind

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samuraisaint wrote: Tue 17 Aug 2021 9:13am
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Aug 2021 8:26am
The_Dud wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 9:40pm
IluvHarvey wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 7:05pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 15 Aug 2021 7:01pm Just a lazy 30 touches (21 kicks) at 83% and a goal for Hind…

But lucky we have Hill instead! 🤦‍♂️
It's absolutely pointless comparing the Hind who played for us and the Hind that plays for the Drug Cheats.
Hind was never looked at as a running half back for us and if he was still on our list would be used as a back up small forward still.
We haven't lost anything with him going to the Druggies because he would have never had the opportunity to play in the backline, where he is at the moment as Sinclair, Hill and Clark all have the spot over him.
So what’s that say about our club when we have a player on our list for years and we couldn’t work out where he would thrive?

He is also playing better than Hill and Clark, and equal to Sinclair in that role.
He's not playing as well as Sinclair.
He got 30 possessions on Sunday Curly - Hind is playing as well as Sinclair, let's be honest. He's one we definitely should have kept.
Sinclair is doing both which is defending and creating out of the back half.

Sinclair in the best in a game v Geelong or running around loose in 12 goal win v GC.


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Re: Hickey, Bruce and Hind

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CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Aug 2021 9:43am
samuraisaint wrote: Tue 17 Aug 2021 9:13am
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Aug 2021 8:26am
The_Dud wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 9:40pm
IluvHarvey wrote: Mon 16 Aug 2021 7:05pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 15 Aug 2021 7:01pm Just a lazy 30 touches (21 kicks) at 83% and a goal for Hind…

But lucky we have Hill instead! 🤦‍♂️
It's absolutely pointless comparing the Hind who played for us and the Hind that plays for the Drug Cheats.
Hind was never looked at as a running half back for us and if he was still on our list would be used as a back up small forward still.
We haven't lost anything with him going to the Druggies because he would have never had the opportunity to play in the backline, where he is at the moment as Sinclair, Hill and Clark all have the spot over him.
So what’s that say about our club when we have a player on our list for years and we couldn’t work out where he would thrive?

He is also playing better than Hill and Clark, and equal to Sinclair in that role.
He's not playing as well as Sinclair.
He got 30 possessions on Sunday Curly - Hind is playing as well as Sinclair, let's be honest. He's one we definitely should have kept.
Sinclair is doing both which is defending and creating out of the back half.

Sinclair in the best in a game v Geelong or running around loose in 12 goal win v GC.
You've got your blinkers on here mate.

Hind has been beating his opponent and winning the ball.

Not saying he's better than Sinclair but he's definitely one we should have kept


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I still don’t think the Hill and Hind connection is a very good one

Hill wasn’t keeping Hind out of the team and wasn’t responsible for us trying to play him as a FP or failing to accurately assess his potential

The club is responsible for that all by itself.

We also chose Lonie ahead of him and were stuck with Kent

It seems to be very fashionable to sink the boots into Hill at every opportunity, minimise his good performances and highlight his every mistake.
He’s still a very clear top 22 IMO


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Add to that…
I was sad to see Acres go but it’s not looking as though he’s any better or more improved at Freo

It may just be that the Blake isn’t all that good


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The point I was making is that we've invested so much draft capital and salary cap space to fill a position on the field with Hill when we could have just used what we already had on our list to do the job equally well or better!

Just another example of terrible list management from the club.


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Re: Hickey, Bruce and Hind

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We received an embarrassing hickey bruise that won't go away and had our hind kicked.
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We used Hind incorrectly

He is and was always a HB

Played in starvation corner at StK even at Sandy

Who has had the better season
Hind, Hill, Sinclair?


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Essendon will be without breakout recruit Nick Hind for its elimination final against the Western Bulldogs after he visited a tier 2 Covid exposure site.


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Faulky63 wrote: Fri 27 Aug 2021 6:33pm Essendon will be without breakout recruit Nick Hind for its elimination final against the Western Bulldogs after he visited a tier 2 Covid exposure site.
that's gonna hurt.


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samuraisaint wrote: Fri 27 Aug 2021 6:54pm
Faulky63 wrote: Fri 27 Aug 2021 6:33pm Essendon will be without breakout recruit Nick Hind for its elimination final against the Western Bulldogs after he visited a tier 2 Covid exposure site.
that's gonna hurt.
The Bulldogs need all the help they can get.


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Faulky63 wrote: Fri 27 Aug 2021 6:33pm Essendon will be without breakout recruit Nick Hind for its elimination final against the Western Bulldogs after he visited a tier 2 Covid exposure site.
What a joke.


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CURLY wrote: Fri 27 Aug 2021 7:04pm
Faulky63 wrote: Fri 27 Aug 2021 6:33pm Essendon will be without breakout recruit Nick Hind for its elimination final against the Western Bulldogs after he visited a tier 2 Covid exposure site.
What a joke.
Apparently a favourite for the Bummers Best & Fairest!!


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Faulky63 wrote: Fri 27 Aug 2021 6:33pm Essendon will be without breakout recruit Nick Hind for its elimination final against the Western Bulldogs after he visited a tier 2 Covid exposure site.
Poor bugger.. feel for him


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Bowey Boy wrote: Fri 27 Aug 2021 7:14pm
CURLY wrote: Fri 27 Aug 2021 7:04pm
Faulky63 wrote: Fri 27 Aug 2021 6:33pm Essendon will be without breakout recruit Nick Hind for its elimination final against the Western Bulldogs after he visited a tier 2 Covid exposure site.
What a joke.
Apparently a favourite for the Bummers Best & Fairest!!
No chance


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Faulky63 wrote: Fri 27 Aug 2021 6:33pm Essendon will be without breakout recruit Nick Hind for its elimination final against the Western Bulldogs after he visited a tier 2 Covid exposure site.
He might be able to kick a football but how dumb is that.


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saynta wrote: Fri 27 Aug 2021 8:07pm
Faulky63 wrote: Fri 27 Aug 2021 6:33pm Essendon will be without breakout recruit Nick Hind for its elimination final against the Western Bulldogs after he visited a tier 2 Covid exposure site.
He might be able to kick a football but how dumb is that.
Do we know what the site was? Do we know if he deliberately went there knowing it was Tier 2?


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