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Re: Will AFL review Cotchin, Lynch and 3rd umpire?

Post: # 1877190Post Bowey Boy »

Er no apparently.


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Devilhead wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 1:27am
Lynch has no eyes for the ball firstly - this is very clear

Carless conduct - could easily go Intentional
High contact - elbow to head
Medium to High impact - head split open
Potential to cause Injury - High - though this is only used for Ben Long so will not be taken into account

Final deliberation - 1 to 2 weeks - depending on Impact grading

Just imagine what he would go for if he had of been driving his car ;)


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Re: Will AFL review Cotchin, Lynch and 3rd umpire?

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saynta wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:10pm Fine only for the tigers coward.
I wonder whether Ben Long would’ve been given the same punishment? That’s Lynch’s fifth penalty this year.


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Re: Will AFL review Cotchin, Lynch and 3rd umpire?

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Was Lynch hit on Paton even looked at?

Cotchin?


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suss wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:38pm
saynta wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:10pm Fine only for the tigers coward.
I wonder whether Ben Long would’ve been given the same punishment? That’s Lynch’s fifth penalty this year.
Second Only according to the MRP Statement:
Based on the available evidence, the incident was assessed as Misconduct. The incident was classified as a $1250 sanction as a second offence. The player can accept a $750 sanction with an early plea.


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Re: Will AFL review Cotchin, Lynch and 3rd umpire?

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What about that grub Cotchin?


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Re: Will AFL review Cotchin, Lynch and 3rd umpire?

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Sainter_Dad wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:48pm
suss wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:38pm
saynta wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:10pm Fine only for the tigers coward.
I wonder whether Ben Long would’ve been given the same punishment? That’s Lynch’s fifth penalty this year.
Second Only according to the MRP Statement:
Based on the available evidence, the incident was assessed as Misconduct. The incident was classified as a $1250 sanction as a second offence. The player can accept a $750 sanction with an early plea.
That's just pure crap as he was cited three times in just two matches earlier in the season.


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https://www.smh.com.au/sport/afl/tigers ... 563uv.html

Cotchin’s head high tackle and sling to the ground ‘just a part of the game”. Michael Christian you are a joke.


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Post: # 1877210Post Devilhead »

Wow so they didn't even look at Lynch's elbow to the back of Paton's head which split him open

Footage clearly shows he didn't have eyes on the ball and his arm was bent

Paton with blood flowing from his head has to go off for treatment

If that was Carlisle it would be minimum 2 weeks


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Re: Will AFL review Cotchin, Lynch and 3rd umpire?

Post: # 1877211Post CURLY »

CQ SAINT wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:33pm
Leo.J wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:23pm
CQ SAINT wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:18pm
Leo.J wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 9:28am The umpires had a very bad night, missed a lot of frees more than usual...and it definitely helped one team more than the other.

Richmond play on the edge, they went over the line a lot last night. It’s the umpires responsibility to keep the game within the rules, they failed, and it cost us.

Our mistakes are irrelevant.
True, except for the 5 easy goals we missed.
Our mistakes don’t make the bad umpiring exceptable.
It cost us what?

It only cost us because Richmond made the most of their scoring opportunities when it counted and we didn't. That is what cost us. Umpiring is rarely good.
Bad umpiring cost us 4 goals from the goal square. All four decisions were blatant and in full view of the umpires. The deliberately chose to cheat and not pay them.


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Re: Will AFL review Cotchin, Lynch and 3rd umpire?

Post: # 1877212Post Sainter_Dad »

saynta wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 6:05pm
Sainter_Dad wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:48pm
suss wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:38pm
saynta wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:10pm Fine only for the tigers coward.
I wonder whether Ben Long would’ve been given the same punishment? That’s Lynch’s fifth penalty this year.
Second Only according to the MRP Statement:
Based on the available evidence, the incident was assessed as Misconduct. The incident was classified as a $1250 sanction as a second offence. The player can accept a $750 sanction with an early plea.
That's just pure crap as he was cited three times in just two matches earlier in the season.
Ahh - Saynta my friend - you are technically correct - which is the best kind of correct.

Apparently - Misconduct is classified as different from striking.

"It is the fifth time this season that Lynch has attracted MRO attention for an incident.

He has had two fines for striking (Gold Coast's Sam Collins and Jarrod Witts), was fined for misconduct on Brisbane's Alex Witherden and was sent to the tribunal for a strike to Bomber Michael Hurley's neck."


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Re: Will AFL review Cotchin, Lynch and 3rd umpire?

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CURLY wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 6:15pm
CQ SAINT wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:33pm
Leo.J wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:23pm
CQ SAINT wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:18pm
Leo.J wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 9:28am The umpires had a very bad night, missed a lot of frees more than usual...and it definitely helped one team more than the other.

Richmond play on the edge, they went over the line a lot last night. It’s the umpires responsibility to keep the game within the rules, they failed, and it cost us.

Our mistakes are irrelevant.
True, except for the 5 easy goals we missed.
Our mistakes don’t make the bad umpiring exceptable.
It cost us what?

It only cost us because Richmond made the most of their scoring opportunities when it counted and we didn't. That is what cost us. Umpiring is rarely good.
Bad umpiring cost us 4 goals from the goal square. All four decisions were blatant and in full view of the umpires. The deliberately chose to cheat and not pay them.
We'll at a 50/50 chance, that's 2 goals tops.


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Post: # 1877215Post ace »

Review complete
Only Lynch gets $750 fine for putting his knee into Howard's neck.
$750 that's like a $75 fine to most people.
Flogged, flogged, flogged with feather.

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Post: # 1877218Post CURLY »

CQ SAINT wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 6:23pm
CURLY wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 6:15pm
CQ SAINT wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:33pm
Leo.J wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:23pm
CQ SAINT wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:18pm
Leo.J wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 9:28am The umpires had a very bad night, missed a lot of frees more than usual...and it definitely helped one team more than the other.

Richmond play on the edge, they went over the line a lot last night. It’s the umpires responsibility to keep the game within the rules, they failed, and it cost us.

Our mistakes are irrelevant.
True, except for the 5 easy goals we missed.
Our mistakes don’t make the bad umpiring exceptable.
It cost us what?

It only cost us because Richmond made the most of their scoring opportunities when it counted and we didn't. That is what cost us. Umpiring is rarely good.
Bad umpiring cost us 4 goals from the goal square. All four decisions were blatant and in full view of the umpires. The deliberately chose to cheat and not pay them.
We'll at a 50/50 chance, that's 2 goals tops.

All decisions would of had us kicking from the goal line inexcusable the umpire ignored them. Just cheating


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CURLY wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 6:36pm
CQ SAINT wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 6:23pm
CURLY wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 6:15pm
CQ SAINT wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:33pm
Leo.J wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:23pm
CQ SAINT wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:18pm
Leo.J wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 9:28am The umpires had a very bad night, missed a lot of frees more than usual...and it definitely helped one team more than the other.

Richmond play on the edge, they went over the line a lot last night. It’s the umpires responsibility to keep the game within the rules, they failed, and it cost us.

Our mistakes are irrelevant.
True, except for the 5 easy goals we missed.
Our mistakes don’t make the bad umpiring exceptable.
It cost us what?

It only cost us because Richmond made the most of their scoring opportunities when it counted and we didn't. That is what cost us. Umpiring is rarely good.
Bad umpiring cost us 4 goals from the goal square. All four decisions were blatant and in full view of the umpires. The deliberately chose to cheat and not pay them.
We'll at a 50/50 chance, that's 2 goals tops.

All decisions would of had us kicking from the goal line inexcusable the umpire ignored them. Just cheating
Maybe only one poster from the goal line, 3 goals then.


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CQ SAINT wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 6:39pm
CURLY wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 6:36pm
CQ SAINT wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 6:23pm
CURLY wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 6:15pm
CQ SAINT wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:33pm
Leo.J wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:23pm
CQ SAINT wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:18pm
Leo.J wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 9:28am The umpires had a very bad night, missed a lot of frees more than usual...and it definitely helped one team more than the other.

Richmond play on the edge, they went over the line a lot last night. It’s the umpires responsibility to keep the game within the rules, they failed, and it cost us.

Our mistakes are irrelevant.
True, except for the 5 easy goals we missed.
Our mistakes don’t make the bad umpiring exceptable.
It cost us what?

It only cost us because Richmond made the most of their scoring opportunities when it counted and we didn't. That is what cost us. Umpiring is rarely good.
Bad umpiring cost us 4 goals from the goal square. All four decisions were blatant and in full view of the umpires. The deliberately chose to cheat and not pay them.
We'll at a 50/50 chance, that's 2 goals tops.

All decisions would of had us kicking from the goal line inexcusable the umpire ignored them. Just cheating
Maybe only one poster from the goal line, 3 goals then.
If we get 50k more members, the umps might be able to advance King to the goal line for all his kicks. Then we'd be flush.


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Does Michael Christian do press conferences or answer questions from reporters etc... He needs to explain and respond to the blantant inconsistencies over the past week.


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ace wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 9:38am
Wayne42 wrote: Fri 09 Oct 2020 10:26pm They'll have a look, and then move on
They'll have a look, have a good laugh at St Kilda's expense, and then move on
And that's about how it panned out


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happy feet wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 6:06pm https://www.smh.com.au/sport/afl/tigers ... 563uv.html

Cotchin’s head high tackle and sling to the ground ‘just a part of the game”. Michael Christian you are a joke.
What a f#cken disgrace - but a hip and shoulder is not part and parcel of the game because it has the potential to cause injury ?
2 sets of rules as highlighted UNBELIEVABLY by the AFL themselves when they tweeted to faun over Bolton giving the gall to Martin - which is against the rules for most teams


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Can we appeal the result due to biased umpiring and cheating and ask for a rematch?


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CQ SAINT wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:33pm
Leo.J wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:23pm
CQ SAINT wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:18pm
Leo.J wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 9:28am The umpires had a very bad night, missed a lot of frees more than usual...and it definitely helped one team more than the other.

Richmond play on the edge, they went over the line a lot last night. It’s the umpires responsibility to keep the game within the rules, they failed, and it cost us.

Our mistakes are irrelevant.
True, except for the 5 easy goals we missed.
Our mistakes don’t make the bad umpiring exceptable.
It cost us what?

It only cost us because Richmond made the most of their scoring opportunities when it counted and we didn't. That is what cost us. Umpiring is rarely good.
So you’re saying that the poor decisions didn’t effect the game?

There’s no argument from me about what you’re saying regarding our chances. But that doesn’t mean the umpiring didn’t effect the outcome.

Richmond were good...we missed opportunities...but the umpires made poor calls, missed numerous frees and even screwed up the goal review which effected the outcome.

They allowed Richmond to step over the line without pulling them back, which gave them an advantage. Last week against the Lions they were pulled up on it, this week they got away with just about anything.


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Leo.J wrote: Sun 11 Oct 2020 1:10am
CQ SAINT wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:33pm
Leo.J wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:23pm
CQ SAINT wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 5:18pm
Leo.J wrote: Sat 10 Oct 2020 9:28am The umpires had a very bad night, missed a lot of frees more than usual...and it definitely helped one team more than the other.

Richmond play on the edge, they went over the line a lot last night. It’s the umpires responsibility to keep the game within the rules, they failed, and it cost us.

Our mistakes are irrelevant.
True, except for the 5 easy goals we missed.
Our mistakes don’t make the bad umpiring exceptable.
It cost us what?

It only cost us because Richmond made the most of their scoring opportunities when it counted and we didn't. That is what cost us. Umpiring is rarely good.
So you’re saying that the poor decisions didn’t effect the game?

There’s no argument from me about what you’re saying regarding our chances. But that doesn’t mean the umpiring didn’t effect the outcome.

Richmond were good...we missed opportunities...but the umpires made poor calls, missed numerous frees and even screwed up the goal review which effected the outcome.

They allowed Richmond to step over the line without pulling them back, which gave them an advantage. Last week against the Lions they were pulled up on it, this week they got away with just about anything.
I'm saying umpiring is a part of the game, just like accurate kicking. One you have control over the other you don't.
I'm very certain our wasteful set shot kicking had far more effect on the result than any decision made by those the umpires.
Again, not sure how we improve the umpiring but you know the rest.
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