Winning against Melbourne is critical for a finals birth

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Winning against Melbourne is critical for a finals birth

Post: # 1863578Post MC Gusto »

Goes without saying I suppose but our run home is tough

Critical we beat Melbourne and Hawthorn

West coast I don’t think is likely

GWS 50/50

So that means 2 wins at minimum, 3 at best

3 wins we are certainly in the finals
2 wins I think we are likely
1 win I doubt we scrape in

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Post: # 1863581Post skeptic »

It’s quality not quantity.

Melbourne and GWS are the ones we need to win... not just to get the points but to deprive it from those two fighting for the 8.

Plus the other reality is that if we can’t beat them, we pbly have no real business being in the finals.

My current view is that I’m scared of Geelong and WCE. Collingwood to a degree though they looked more formidable earlier.

Everybody else in the 8 or thereabouts I’m confident we can beat on the day.

We’re pbly about 6th ranked overall IMO but with a bit of luck I reckon we could take it all. We’ll see how we go


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Post: # 1864257Post MC Gusto »

Tend to agree. If we can’t beat Melbourne we don’t deserve to be in the finals

I’m predicting a solid win today albeit I had an ominous dream of us losing...that said the last time I dreamt about us winning we got thrashed so I’m back on!


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Post: # 1864261Post spert »

We should have put in a better performance last week, and a few players were off their game early - one being Carlisle. This game is one where we need everyone going at it from first bounce- and hitting the scoreboard, as the forward half is not really clicking yet IMO


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Post: # 1864262Post saintspremiers »

skeptic wrote: Tue 25 Aug 2020 11:04am It’s quality not quantity.

Melbourne and GWS are the ones we need to win... not just to get the points but to deprive it from those two fighting for the 8.

Plus the other reality is that if we can’t beat them, we pbly have no real business being in the finals.

My current view is that I’m scared of Geelong and WCE. Collingwood to a degree though they looked more formidable earlier.

Everybody else in the 8 or thereabouts I’m confident we can beat on the day.

We’re pbly about 6th ranked overall IMO but with a bit of luck I reckon we could take it all. We’ll see how we go
This year is about just playing finals. I don’t give a rats toss bag who we beat to make the eight or if we win a final or not. Obviously it would be great to make the semi’s but that’s the upper point of expectations.

8 consecutive seasons of not playing a single final means this year any final is a bonus and should be seen as a game of celebration


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Post: # 1864264Post The Fireman »

you were right..it went without saying


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Is a finals birth the same as a finals berth!!


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Post: # 1864266Post Impatient Sainter »

Agree its an important game. I think the Richmond game v WCE showed the Eagles are a completely different team in QLD. No home crowd and umpire advantage brings them back to our level and gives us a better chance of an upset.

With a bit of luck I think we can go close to winning the next 4 games and go into the finals with some momentum. With even more luck we get Hannebrey & Gresham back before the finals.


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Post: # 1864267Post Mr Magic »

Impatient Sainter wrote: Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:06am Agree its an important game. I think the Richmond game v WCE showed the Eagles are a completely different team in QLD. No home crowd and umpire advantage brings them back to our level and gives us a better chance of an upset.

With a bit of luck I think we can go close to winning the next 4 games and go into the finals with some momentum.
Bet we get umpire #2 when we play the WCE


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Post: # 1864268Post The Fireman »

True Believer wrote: Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:00am Is a finals birth the same as a finals berth!!
lol..maybe our team should be practicing pre natal exercises ?


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Post: # 1864269Post Yorkeys »

We are so punch drunk we are still frightened of losing to Melbourne even though its clear we are a five goal better side, at least. Dropping Carslise a year ago would not have been a serious option - our list has improved markedly as has the coaching. I imagine Traeger Park conditions will be slippery due to nighttime moisture, we bring in a ground level player; we will be critical of Max for not being able to always grab the bar of soap pill, we will be critical of every less than perfect move of J. Billings, S. Ross and J. Geary. We are never convinced until the siren goes and we are in front that we will win - because the Club has a poor relationship with Lady Luck - and her companion good management. Sure the bookies think this is an even game and we may lose - but I really enjoy watching our 2020 team and wish them all strength, bounce of the ball and a fair go from the officials. Go Sainters!


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Yorkeys wrote: Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:11am We are so punch drunk we are still frightened of losing to Melbourne even though its clear we are a five goal better side, at least. Dropping Carslise a year ago would not have been a serious option - our list has improved markedly as has the coaching. I imagine Traeger Park conditions will be slippery due to nighttime moisture, we bring in a ground level player; we will be critical of Max for not being able to always grab the bar of soap pill, we will be critical of every less than perfect move of J. Billings, S. Ross and J. Geary. We are never convinced until the siren goes and we are in front that we will win - because the Club has a poor relationship with Lady Luck - and her companion good management. Sure the bookies think this is an even game and we may lose - but I really enjoy watching our 2020 team and wish them all strength, bounce of the ball and a fair go from the officials. Go Sainters!
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Post: # 1864273Post Impatient Sainter »

Its a dry air in the centre and only down to 10° overnight so hopefully the conditions suit us, not too slippery & a fast track.


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True Believer wrote: Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:00am Is a finals birth the same as a finals berth!!
That’s what they have been discussing in the Carlisle household.


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True Believer wrote: Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:00am Is a finals birth the same as a finals berth!!
Yes.comes with post-natal depression.


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Post: # 1864294Post Secret Kiel »

The Dees are cooked. Put a fork in em.


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Post: # 1864308Post SaintPav »

True Believer wrote: Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:00am Is a finals birth the same as a finals berth!!
Either way, given we have been out of the finals for so long, it's going to be a laboured wait...


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Big ground. We plan to run them off their legs.


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tony74 wrote: Sat 29 Aug 2020 3:49pm Big ground. We plan to run them off their legs.
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Post: # 1864316Post Secret Kiel »

tony74 wrote: Sat 29 Aug 2020 3:49pm Big ground. We plan to run them off their legs.
Gee that could backfire spectacularly. At times over the past few games our players looked like they were playing with concrete boots.


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Post: # 1864329Post skeptic »

If we lose... I’d like it noted that I expressed concerns RE selection at the time

If we win well... would prefer that nobody bring point a) up again


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Secret Kiel wrote: Sat 29 Aug 2020 4:12pm
tony74 wrote: Sat 29 Aug 2020 3:49pm Big ground. We plan to run them off their legs.
Gee that could backfire spectacularly. At times over the past few games our players looked like they were playing with concrete boots.

Why would it backfire? We have had a good break.

And if we have to run hard, our next opponent the Hawks is not till Sunday 6th Sep, but the Hawks also have another game on Tuesday 1 Sept. So we should have the edge no matter how tired we get against the Dees.


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Post: # 1864334Post Secret Kiel »

saintsRrising wrote: Sat 29 Aug 2020 5:52pm
Secret Kiel wrote: Sat 29 Aug 2020 4:12pm
tony74 wrote: Sat 29 Aug 2020 3:49pm Big ground. We plan to run them off their legs.
Gee that could backfire spectacularly. At times over the past few games our players looked like they were playing with concrete boots.

Why would it backfire? We have had a good break.

And if we have to run hard, our next opponent the Hawks is not till Sunday 6th Sep, but the Hawks also have another game on Tuesday 1 Sept. So we should have the edge no matter how tired we get against the Dees.
It backfires if the Dees run us off our legs, it's interesting that they have overturned a 3rd of their side.

Is running a team off their legs a legitmate plan? Hopefully we've got other clubs in the bag because if running them off their legs is our one wood then I'm really concerned.


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Post: # 1864336Post Impatient Sainter »

Be nice to King get rewarded some frees for the amount of times opponents chop his arms tonight!


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Post: # 1864337Post skeptic »

I would be more inclined to worry if the backfire is that there talls cause is huge problems.

Backline hasn’t looked as convincing as it did earlier in the year...
If we dominate play but they are able to make the most of opportunities... we’ll many a loss has occurred that way.

Not saying that will happen as I don’t know Melbourne we’ll enough to explore the strategy.

Feels as though we’re significantly less flexible in structure.
Was very unimpressed with Kent and Sinclair last week... both have stayed in which worries me. Don’t like relying on the smalls like this


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