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Re: Pisshead

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BarryGrogan wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:14pm
saynta wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:36am
I suppose the humble by highly enjoyable chico roll is in trouble too. :cry:

About time the silent majority started hitting back at these cancel culture fwits.
It's a Chiko Roll.



But really, who cares if these things change their name?

My life moved on relatively unchanged when Fags changed their name to Fads.


The outrage from some people about these proposed changes, is worse than the outrage that causes the changes.
Funny, isn't it?

The crowd who love to spout "PC gone mad", "snowflakes", "ridiculous cancel culture" are the very same crowd who get all upset and offended if a lollie wants to change it's name, and threaten to boycott it if it does!

But irony is lost on some people I guess :)


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Re: Pisshead

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Moods wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:57pm
Spinner wrote: Tue 23 Jun 2020 2:24am
Moods wrote: Mon 22 Jun 2020 12:01am I have no problem paying out Jack's contract if it can be proven that his mental issues were caused, in part, by him playing football with the stkilda football club. Workcover is there for everyone. It appears though, that footy has very little to do with the myriad of issues facing Jack. Imagine getting paid your full wage at work for falling off your ladder at home?
A mate of mine from work broke up with his wife about 6 years ago now. He was a complete mess. Couldn't function at all. He took sick leave for 6 weeks while he saw a shrink and pulled himself together. Says a bit about Jack that he would rather sit out and have us pay him 800k rather than tear up his contract and go and play footy with the cats for a lower salary. A good bloke would renegotiate the terms of his contract. Just like a good club would do the same if a player was on a long term contract and was suddenly dominating the competition like Alastair Lynch did in the 90's with the Bears/Lions. They renegotiated his 10 year deal so that it was commensurate with his output.
Works only one way for this bloke - output goes down so reduce pay... how about all those years Steven was winning best and fairests - with the rest of the list made of duds. Probably underpaid. Does he get to rip it up like the suggestion above?

Heaps of players hurt themselves at home. Everitt, Mark Coughlan, Wines, Petracca ... did they all not get paid?

Rules for some, but not others.

Underpaid!!! There would have been VERY few clubs, particularly top clubs that would have paid Steven the coin he was on at St Kilda whilst we were crap. The good clubs have A graders who get the majority of the coin. Steven was never A grade. He was a very good player, but because we were a very underperforming club he was paid the highest. It's the ironical benefit of playing for a bad team. The team may not win many games but if you're any good you get actually get paid overs because the club has to pay 95% of it's salary cap (or thereabouts) therefore players Like Steven and Billings are actually overpaid for what they're output is.

Jack, through many of his lifestyle choices, made some poor decisions. We supported him for a full year to overcome them in 2019 (fair enough). His output was dreadful. Not like we were supporting him while he was injured playing footy. Saint Lee's post a month or so back was very enlightening and in many respects corroborates much of what I'd heard about Jack's activities.

Now, Jack wanted to play at the Cats because it suited his lifestyle to be closer to his family as a consequences of his life taking a wrong turn. No-one begrudges him that. No one is happy about it, but it's life. The Saints paid out Andrew Lovett after he made a couple of bad choices too. But NOT THE FULL AMOUNT. I don't begrudge Jack getting a pay out, but he's basically demanding his full pay, to play at another club, whilst we contribute to his salary to bring it up to his previous salary OR he'll sit out the year and claim mental health issues. And you reckon that's fine? I bet Alex Rance didn't do that to Richmond.

And BTW you make a very good point about the above listed players injuring themselves at home. Some were through poor choices but most were pure accidents. None of those players basically finished a season off overweight and unfit and then demanded a trade with their full wage to another club the next season.
I think the issue is that his contract said he would play for St Kilda for a certain amount of years for a certain amount of dollars. He decides he wants to break that contract, fair enough, but he then basically sits out a year and then threatens to sit out another year if we don't break that contract and trade him, but at the same time demands he gets all the money owed to him in that contract, the contract he doesn't want to honour.

I think that's where the problem sits for most people.


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Re: Pisshead

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The_Dud wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 1:38pm
BarryGrogan wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:14pm
saynta wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:36am
I suppose the humble by highly enjoyable chico roll is in trouble too. :cry:

About time the silent majority started hitting back at these cancel culture fwits.
It's a Chiko Roll.



But really, who cares if these things change their name?

My life moved on relatively unchanged when Fags changed their name to Fads.


The outrage from some people about these proposed changes, is worse than the outrage that causes the changes.
Funny, isn't it?

The crowd who love to spout "PC gone mad", "snowflakes", "ridiculous cancel culture" are the very same crowd who get all upset and offended if a lollie wants to change it's name, and threaten to boycott it if it does!

But irony is lost on some people I guess :)
:roll: :roll: Sure chuck.


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Re: Pisshead

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saynta wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 2:11pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 1:38pm
BarryGrogan wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:14pm
saynta wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:36am
I suppose the humble by highly enjoyable chico roll is in trouble too. :cry:

About time the silent majority started hitting back at these cancel culture fwits.
It's a Chiko Roll.



But really, who cares if these things change their name?

My life moved on relatively unchanged when Fags changed their name to Fads.


The outrage from some people about these proposed changes, is worse than the outrage that causes the changes.
Funny, isn't it?

The crowd who love to spout "PC gone mad", "snowflakes", "ridiculous cancel culture" are the very same crowd who get all upset and offended if a lollie wants to change it's name, and threaten to boycott it if it does!

But irony is lost on some people I guess :)
:roll: :roll: Sure chuck.
OK Boomer.

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Re: Pisshead

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The_Dud wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 2:29pm
saynta wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 2:11pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 1:38pm
BarryGrogan wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:14pm
saynta wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:36am
I suppose the humble by highly enjoyable chico roll is in trouble too. :cry:

About time the silent majority started hitting back at these cancel culture fwits.
It's a Chiko Roll.



But really, who cares if these things change their name?

My life moved on relatively unchanged when Fags changed their name to Fads.


The outrage from some people about these proposed changes, is worse than the outrage that causes the changes.
Funny, isn't it?

The crowd who love to spout "PC gone mad", "snowflakes", "ridiculous cancel culture" are the very same crowd who get all upset and offended if a lollie wants to change it's name, and threaten to boycott it if it does!

But irony is lost on some people I guess :)
:roll: :roll: Sure chuck.
OK Boomer.

:)
Wrong again chuck, but what's new. :roll:


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Re: Pisshead

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saynta wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 2:48pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 2:29pm
saynta wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 2:11pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 1:38pm
BarryGrogan wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:14pm
saynta wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:36am
I suppose the humble by highly enjoyable chico roll is in trouble too. :cry:

About time the silent majority started hitting back at these cancel culture fwits.
It's a Chiko Roll.



But really, who cares if these things change their name?

My life moved on relatively unchanged when Fags changed their name to Fads.


The outrage from some people about these proposed changes, is worse than the outrage that causes the changes.
Funny, isn't it?

The crowd who love to spout "PC gone mad", "snowflakes", "ridiculous cancel culture" are the very same crowd who get all upset and offended if a lollie wants to change it's name, and threaten to boycott it if it does!

But irony is lost on some people I guess :)
:roll: :roll: Sure chuck.
OK Boomer.

:)
Wrong again chuck, but what's new. :roll:
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Re: Pisshead

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The_Dud wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 2:57pm
saynta wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 2:48pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 2:29pm
saynta wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 2:11pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 1:38pm
BarryGrogan wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:14pm
saynta wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:36am
I suppose the humble by highly enjoyable chico roll is in trouble too. :cry:

About time the silent majority started hitting back at these cancel culture fwits.
It's a Chiko Roll.



But really, who cares if these things change their name?

My life moved on relatively unchanged when Fags changed their name to Fads.


The outrage from some people about these proposed changes, is worse than the outrage that causes the changes.
Funny, isn't it?

The crowd who love to spout "PC gone mad", "snowflakes", "ridiculous cancel culture" are the very same crowd who get all upset and offended if a lollie wants to change it's name, and threaten to boycott it if it does!

But irony is lost on some people I guess :)
:roll: :roll: Sure chuck.
OK Boomer.

:)
Wrong again chuck, but what's new. :roll:
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Poor form resorting to taking selfies to shock me chuck. Really poor form. :roll: :roll: :roll:


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Re: Pisshead

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saynta wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 3:23pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 2:57pm
saynta wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 2:48pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 2:29pm
saynta wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 2:11pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 1:38pm
BarryGrogan wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:14pm
saynta wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:36am
I suppose the humble by highly enjoyable chico roll is in trouble too. :cry:

About time the silent majority started hitting back at these cancel culture fwits.
It's a Chiko Roll.



But really, who cares if these things change their name?

My life moved on relatively unchanged when Fags changed their name to Fads.


The outrage from some people about these proposed changes, is worse than the outrage that causes the changes.
Funny, isn't it?

The crowd who love to spout "PC gone mad", "snowflakes", "ridiculous cancel culture" are the very same crowd who get all upset and offended if a lollie wants to change it's name, and threaten to boycott it if it does!

But irony is lost on some people I guess :)
:roll: :roll: Sure chuck.
OK Boomer.

:)
Wrong again chuck, but what's new. :roll:
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:mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen:
Poor form resorting to taking selfies to shock me chuck. Really poor form. :roll: :roll: :roll:
I'll wait here while you get one of the grandkids to explain the reference for you :D


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Re: Pisshead

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The_Dud wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 1:38pm
BarryGrogan wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:14pm
saynta wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:36am
I suppose the humble by highly enjoyable chico roll is in trouble too. :cry:

About time the silent majority started hitting back at these cancel culture fwits.
It's a Chiko Roll.



But really, who cares if these things change their name?

My life moved on relatively unchanged when Fags changed their name to Fads.


The outrage from some people about these proposed changes, is worse than the outrage that causes the changes.
Funny, isn't it?

The crowd who love to spout "PC gone mad", "snowflakes", "ridiculous cancel culture" are the very same crowd who get all upset and offended if a lollie wants to change it's name, and threaten to boycott it if it does!

But irony is lost on some people I guess :)
Can't say I agree dud.

In one hand you have PC apologists lobbying companies and social media demanding change and on the other old boomers like me who point it out with a shake of the head but little more.

I like to ridicule and point out the stupidity, but don't care enough to do anything more.

Classic boomer behavior!


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Joffa Burns wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 4:04pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 1:38pm
BarryGrogan wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:14pm
saynta wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:36am
I suppose the humble by highly enjoyable chico roll is in trouble too. :cry:

About time the silent majority started hitting back at these cancel culture fwits.
It's a Chiko Roll.



But really, who cares if these things change their name?

My life moved on relatively unchanged when Fags changed their name to Fads.


The outrage from some people about these proposed changes, is worse than the outrage that causes the changes.
Funny, isn't it?

The crowd who love to spout "PC gone mad", "snowflakes", "ridiculous cancel culture" are the very same crowd who get all upset and offended if a lollie wants to change it's name, and threaten to boycott it if it does!

But irony is lost on some people I guess :)
Can't say I agree dud.

In one hand you have PC apologists lobbying companies and social media demanding change and on the other old boomers like me who point it out with a shake of the head but little more.

I like to ridicule and point out the stupidity, but don't care enough to do anything more.

Classic boomer behavior!
I don't think I saw any lobbying to change Red Skins or Chicos (which btw should probably just be ditched as they taste horrendous), seems like maybe Allen's is trying to get on the front foot? I know Red Skins took the 'red Indian' cartoon character off them a while ago, but the connection is obviously there. As you noted they took the N word off products in the passed, but where do you draw the line? I think 'red skins' is obviously not a great term (I doubt you'd say it to a group of Native Americans) so it makes sense to me people aren't thrilled about it.


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Joffa Burns wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 4:04pm In one hand you have PC apologists lobbying companies and social media demanding change and on the other old boomers like me who point it out with a shake of the head but little more.
This is what's wrong with the world.

The 'Right' think that the 'Left' is made up of "PC apologists lobbying companies and social media demanding change", and the 'Left' think the 'Right' is made up of hysterical, heartless, greedy, racist, old white turds that are scared of everything.

Unfortunately, politicians and the media peddle this and do their utmost to create sides.

Reality is though, the far end of both 'side' are total dicks.

The rest of us on both sides are pretty reasonable.


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I remember when we used to eat a fruit called a 'Chinese Gooseberry'. Somehow it was misappropriated and renamed into a 'Kiwi Fruit'.
Maybe in the current climate we should be asking for it to be called by its original name again?


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Mr Magic wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 6:06pm I remember when we used to eat a fruit called a 'Chinese Gooseberry'. Somehow it was misappropriated and renamed into a 'Kiwi Fruit'.
Maybe in the current climate we should be asking for it to be called by its original name again?
yeah the vagaries of history
it is chinese but the 'Kiwis" were the first to cultivar and market a good variety
But if we are going to play the game of pointing the finger at interest groups or so called political sides
then it would be a very unwise move to rename to chinese gooseberry as it would immediately wipe out the USA market and right wing conservatives around the world


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BarryGrogan wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 5:56pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 4:04pm In one hand you have PC apologists lobbying companies and social media demanding change and on the other old boomers like me who point it out with a shake of the head but little more.
This is what's wrong with the world.

The 'Right' think that the 'Left' is made up of "PC apologists lobbying companies and social media demanding change", and the 'Left' think the 'Right' is made up of hysterical, heartless, greedy, racist, old white turds that are scared of everything.

Unfortunately, politicians and the media peddle this and do their utmost to create sides.

Reality is though, the far end of both 'side' are total dicks.

The rest of us on both sides are pretty reasonable.
The far left is in fact made up with bleeding heart softcock socialist pinkie self absorbed arsewipes imho. The far right are neo nazis white supremacist bigoted Trump loving arseholes. But I agree with you the bulk of the rest are okay.


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Mr Magic wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 6:06pm I remember when we used to eat a fruit called a 'Chinese Gooseberry'. Somehow it was misappropriated and renamed into a 'Kiwi Fruit'.
Maybe in the current climate we should be asking for it to be called by its original name again?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c4/5e/0f ... 9cec47.jpg Which name would you prefer?
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Mr Magic wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 6:06pm I remember when we used to eat a fruit called a 'Chinese Gooseberry'. Somehow it was misappropriated and renamed into a 'Kiwi Fruit'.
Maybe in the current climate we should be asking for it to be called by its original name again?
Well the chinese gooseberry MUTATED into the kiwi fruit as I understand. But maybe we should be renaming fine china and even turkeys to avoid offending the Chinese and the Turkeys. After calling someone a turkey is not a compilment. :wink: :roll: :D


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Mr Magic wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 6:06pm I remember when we used to eat a fruit called a 'Chinese Gooseberry'. Somehow it was misappropriated and renamed into a 'Kiwi Fruit'.
Maybe in the current climate we should be asking for it to be called by its original name again?
It is actually a Chinese Gooseberry still.

Just a great marketing feat by the New Zealand fruit growers to get everyone calling them 'Kiwi Fruit'.


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BarryGrogan wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 6:28pm
Mr Magic wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 6:06pm I remember when we used to eat a fruit called a 'Chinese Gooseberry'. Somehow it was misappropriated and renamed into a 'Kiwi Fruit'.
Maybe in the current climate we should be asking for it to be called by its original name again?
It is actually a Chinese Gooseberry still.

Just a great marketing feat by the New Zealand fruit growers to get everyone calling them 'Kiwi Fruit'.
"15 June 1959
Despite the name, kiwifruit are not native to New Zealand. ... People thought the fruit had a gooseberry flavour and began to call it the Chinese gooseberry. It is not related to the Grossulariaceae family to which gooseberries belong.Jun 15, 2019"

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Although it is most commonly associated with New Zealand, ​kiwifruit originated in the Chang Kiang Valley of China. The Chinese used it as a tonic for children and women after childbirth due to its high nutritional value but never truly enjoyed it as a fruit.

Actinidia chinensis was first exported from Asia in the early 1900s as an ornamental vine, perfect for arbors. It arrived in the United States in 1904 and found its way to New Zealand a couple of years later. It was the New Zealanders who recognized the potential of the succulent fruit, which is botanically a berry and began cultivating it for commercial profit. At the time, it was commonly known as the Chinese gooseberry.
Renaming the Chinese Gooseberry

A prominent New Zealand exporter, Turners, and Growers adopted the name kiwifruit for the Chinese gooseberry in 1959, in response to anti-communist sentiments and the thinking that consumers might be offended by the existing moniker. U.S. distributors reportedly nixed the first suggested name of "melonettes" as melons and berries were subject to high import tariffs when they entered the country.

New Zealanders do not take kindly to the fruit being referred to as a kiwi, preferring kiwifruit. The kiwi is a small flightless hairy brown bird native to New Zealand, and a colloquial term for New Zealanders themselves.
Newfound Popularity

During the novelle cuisine movement of the 1980s, the kiwifruit gained great popularity in the United States. New cultivars include baby "kiwees," which are green and smooth, about the size of table grapes and eaten much like them, and a golden-fleshed variety with a more tropical flavor. California produces about 95 percent of the U.S. crop, though Italy is the world's leader. Of four main varieties, the most popular is the "Hayward," a variety developed by New Zealand horticulturist Hayward Wright. The opposite growing season of New Zealand and Chile makes kiwifruit readily available all-year-round in the northern hemisphere.

Kiwifruit may look unpalatable at first glance, but beneath that hairy brown exterior lies emerald green flesh and edible tiny black seeds with a flavor reminiscent of strawberries to some and pineapple to others. Kiwifruit contains a proportionately high concentration of vitamin C and also nearly as much potassium as bananas. Though most consumers peel them, the skin is edible and a powerful source of antioxidants.

As tempting as it is eaten fresh and in desserts, this sweet, yet slightly tart fruit also works well in savory dishes and contains an enzyme that can actually tenderize meat. You can also find recipes to turn them into homemade jams, wine, and liqueurs. New Zealanders frequently adorn their national dessert, pavlova, with slices of fresh kiwifruit."


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kiwifruit is the parsley of fruits - only good as a decorative garnish.


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saynta wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 6:21pm
BarryGrogan wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 5:56pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 4:04pm In one hand you have PC apologists lobbying companies and social media demanding change and on the other old boomers like me who point it out with a shake of the head but little more.
This is what's wrong with the world.

The 'Right' think that the 'Left' is made up of "PC apologists lobbying companies and social media demanding change", and the 'Left' think the 'Right' is made up of hysterical, heartless, greedy, racist, old white turds that are scared of everything.

Unfortunately, politicians and the media peddle this and do their utmost to create sides.

Reality is though, the far end of both 'side' are total dicks.

The rest of us on both sides are pretty reasonable.
The far left is in fact made up with bleeding heart softcock socialist pinkie self absorbed arsewipes imho. The far right are neo nazis white supremacist bigoted Trump loving arseholes. But I agree with you the bulk of the rest are okay.
Put so succinctly I can only applaud Saynta, well written.

The only point I'd argue is you don't need to veer too far left to find an abundance of your eloquently described group.


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The_Dud wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 5:38pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 4:04pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 1:38pm
BarryGrogan wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:14pm
saynta wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:36am
I suppose the humble by highly enjoyable chico roll is in trouble too. :cry:

About time the silent majority started hitting back at these cancel culture fwits.
It's a Chiko Roll.



But really, who cares if these things change their name?

My life moved on relatively unchanged when Fags changed their name to Fads.


The outrage from some people about these proposed changes, is worse than the outrage that causes the changes.
Funny, isn't it?

The crowd who love to spout "PC gone mad", "snowflakes", "ridiculous cancel culture" are the very same crowd who get all upset and offended if a lollie wants to change it's name, and threaten to boycott it if it does!

But irony is lost on some people I guess :)
Can't say I agree dud.

In one hand you have PC apologists lobbying companies and social media demanding change and on the other old boomers like me who point it out with a shake of the head but little more.

I like to ridicule and point out the stupidity, but don't care enough to do anything more.

Classic boomer behavior!
I don't think I saw any lobbying to change Red Skins or Chicos (which btw should probably just be ditched as they taste horrendous), seems like maybe Allen's is trying to get on the front foot? I know Red Skins took the 'red Indian' cartoon character off them a while ago, but the connection is obviously there. As you noted they took the N word off products in the passed, but where do you draw the line? I think 'red skins' is obviously not a great term (I doubt you'd say it to a group of Native Americans) so it makes sense to me people aren't thrilled about it.
I wouldn't walk up to group of Asians and say hi yellow skins, I wouldn't walk up to a white group and say hey white skins, I wouldn't walk up to an Indigenous Australian group and say hey black skins as it would be plain weird, so of course I wouldn't do it with a Native American group, nor would I walk up to them and say hello native Americans, In my opinion that is a very odd thing for you to write as the rationale to support your position as it bears no logic to how you would interact with another human or to the confectionery and whether the term is acceptable or racist.

If the term is "not a great term" how do you explain the Washington Redskins baseball team name and mascot? https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/ne ... story.html

What's next, Indian motorcycles and their Classic Chieftain, will Boeing rename the Apache helicopter?

I have also had the opportunity to live and work in the mid-west and still have family there and have met and befriended many native Americans over that period.

I have found the native Americans I have met to be the least political people I have met and least offended by terms such as the one that offends you.


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Joffa Burns wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 9:09pm
The only point I'd argue is you don't need to veer too far left to find an abundance of your eloquently described group.
That's just complete ignorance and close mindedness.

Unfortunately, that ill-informed mentality also exists on both sides.


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BarryGrogan wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 9:43pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 9:09pm
The only point I'd argue is you don't need to veer too far left to find an abundance of your eloquently described group.
That's just complete ignorance and close mindedness.

Unfortunately, that ill-informed mentality also exists on both sides.
I doubt its complete ignorance, I apparently formed my view from peddling politicians and the media :lol:
BarryGrogan wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 5:56pm
Unfortunately, politicians and the media peddle this and do their utmost to create sides.


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BarryGrogan wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 5:56pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 4:04pm In one hand you have PC apologists lobbying companies and social media demanding change and on the other old boomers like me who point it out with a shake of the head but little more.
This is what's wrong with the world.

The 'Right' think that the 'Left' is made up of "PC apologists lobbying companies and social media demanding change", and the 'Left' think the 'Right' is made up of hysterical, heartless, greedy, racist, old white turds that are scared of everything.

Unfortunately, politicians and the media peddle this and do their utmost to create sides.

Reality is though, the far end of both 'side' are total dicks.

The rest of us on both sides are pretty reasonable.
What's wrong with the world is that people think that some of this self-righteous, selective and hypocritical virtue signalling nonsense will actually make a difference. It won't.

The left-wing right-wing reference system is total bulls***.

Politicians govern by divide and rule since time immemorial.

The media loves it because it provides an endless supply of sensationalist headlines and improves their bottom line.

Some of these name changes sound like opportunistic bulls*** to me. Companies are only ultimately interested in making a profit. The rest is bulls*** because they don't talk their walk. One easy example to prove this is that no government, union or company has addressed the issue of wage theft. Just pay your employers the wage they are entitled to, provide decent working conditions and stay the f*** in your lane.

Everything else is bulls***.

PS. Oh the moralising on here by the usual...

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saynta wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 6:21pm
BarryGrogan wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 5:56pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2020 4:04pm In one hand you have PC apologists lobbying companies and social media demanding change and on the other old boomers like me who point it out with a shake of the head but little more.
This is what's wrong with the world.

The 'Right' think that the 'Left' is made up of "PC apologists lobbying companies and social media demanding change", and the 'Left' think the 'Right' is made up of hysterical, heartless, greedy, racist, old white turds that are scared of everything.

Unfortunately, politicians and the media peddle this and do their utmost to create sides.

Reality is though, the far end of both 'side' are total dicks.

The rest of us on both sides are pretty reasonable.
The far left is in fact made up with bleeding heart softcock socialist pinkie self absorbed arsewipes imho. The far right are neo nazis white supremacist bigoted Trump loving arseholes. But I agree with you the bulk of the rest are okay.
Beautifully put.

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