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It's time to talk about Jack Steele.

Post: # 1776812Post rodgerfox »

Yeo.
Cripps.
Higgins.
Bont.


This dude is very, very good.

He's basically a hard nosed, savage tagger that gets more ball than his high profile opponent.

Legit.


He could be our next captain at this rate.


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Re: It's time to talk about Jack Steele.

Post: # 1776815Post skeptic »

To be honest... this is the direction I would go

Hopefully this season he puts it beyond any doubt


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Re: It's time to talk about Jack Steele.

Post: # 1776817Post rodgerfox »

Name Jack Steele Patrick Cripps Marcus Bontempelli
Career Games 58 81 104
Age 23yr 2mth 23yr 11mth 23yr 3mth
Kicks Per Game 9.9 11.8 13.6
Handballs Per Game 13.6 17.9 10.5
Disposals Per Game 23.5 29.6 24.1
Marks Per Game 4 4.2 3.3
Goals Per Game 0.3 0.5 1.2
Tackles Per Game 6.7 6.3 3.8
Inside 50s Per Game 2.5 3.9 4.5
Goal Assists Per Game 0.4 0.3 0.6
Contested Possessions Per Game 10.1 17.6 10.4
Uncontested Possessions Per Game 14 12.4 13.8
Disposal Efficiency % Per Game 78.70% 67.90% 70.50%
Clangers Per Game 2.8 4.5 3.3
Clearances Per Game 3.4 7.7 4.5
Rebound 50s Per Game 1.6 1.3 1.4
Time On Ground % Per Game 79.3 89.5 86.2
Centre Clearances Per Game 1.5 3.3 1.9
Stoppage Clearances Per Game 1.9 4.4 2.6
Score Involvements Per Game 5.2 5.4 6.5
Turnovers Per Game 3.4 4.5 4.8
Intercepts Per Game 3.1 2.6 2.4

Now the other two, are the best in the business. Top shelf.

But Steele isn't that far off. And given his first half of last year was only Ok, and that he's played over a full season less than Cripps, and Bont has played twice as many games as him - to finish with the above numbers suggests that his trajectory is fair dinkum.


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Re: It's time to talk about Jack Steele.

Post: # 1776820Post Myron Gaines »

It took until after the bye for the coaching group to play him in the midfield. Once he moved into the engine room he averaged 26 disposals from the final 8 games.

I’m surprised he’s not part of the leadership group. Maybe he doesn’t want it.


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Post: # 1776821Post Myron Gaines »

Also worth noting from those last 8 games he averaged:

- 26 disposals
- 13 contested possessions
- 5 clearances
- 6 tackles

Close to elite across the board.


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Post: # 1776822Post jaxons »

Myron Gaines wrote: Mon 11 Mar 2019 8:20pm Also worth noting from those last 8 games he averaged:

- 26 disposals
- 13 contested possessions
- 5 clearances
- 6 tackles

Close to elite across the board.
Finally people seeing this.

Was on to this guy a long time.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=95710&p=1739302#p1739302

By the end of this season should be the best player on our list.

Star.


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Re: It's time to talk about Jack Steele.

Post: # 1776825Post Myron Gaines »

jaxons wrote: Mon 11 Mar 2019 8:23pm
Myron Gaines wrote: Mon 11 Mar 2019 8:20pm Also worth noting from those last 8 games he averaged:

- 26 disposals
- 13 contested possessions
- 5 clearances
- 6 tackles

Close to elite across the board.
Finally people seeing this.

Was on to this guy a long time.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=95710&p=1739302#p1739302

By the end of this season should be the best player on our list.

Star.
If he can become a 30 disposal with 15 being contested per game player then he’s the inside bull we are crying out for. Would likely elevate the team close to finals off the back of that output as well. A lot of the clubs fortunes are depending on Jack.


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Re: It's time to talk about Jack Steele.

Post: # 1776828Post Cairnsman »

He's another player that has really flourished under Alan's coaching. I'm led to believe Alan and Jack have a very good bond and working relationship.


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Re: It's time to talk about Jack Steele.

Post: # 1776829Post jaxons »

Cairnsman wrote: Mon 11 Mar 2019 8:51pm He's another player that has really flourished under Alan's coaching. I'm led to believe Alan and Jack have a very good bond and working relationship.
Whoever has led you to believe this is not telling you the truth.


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Post: # 1776831Post Myron Gaines »

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Re: It's time to talk about Jack Steele.

Post: # 1776833Post The_President »

jaxons wrote: Mon 11 Mar 2019 8:58pm
Cairnsman wrote: Mon 11 Mar 2019 8:51pm He's another player that has really flourished under Alan's coaching. I'm led to believe Alan and Jack have a very good bond and working relationship.
Whoever has led you to believe this is not telling you the truth.
Wasn't there an interview or maybe it was his B&F speech where he said he was begging to be played in the middle and that they finally listened to him and gave him a shot and he never looked back. From memory he wasn't picked for round 1 last year?


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Re: It's time to talk about Jack Steele.

Post: # 1776835Post Cairnsman »

jaxons wrote: Mon 11 Mar 2019 8:58pm
Cairnsman wrote: Mon 11 Mar 2019 8:51pm He's another player that has really flourished under Alan's coaching. I'm led to believe Alan and Jack have a very good bond and working relationship.
Whoever has led you to believe this is not telling you the truth.
It very much is the truth. He's a very coachable young lad is the strong and positive word.


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Re: It's time to talk about Jack Steele.

Post: # 1776837Post SemperFidelis »

Love the Man of. Stoked he is on our list, and confident he will win a Trevor Barker medal within the next couple of years


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Re: It's time to talk about Jack Steele.

Post: # 1776845Post Sainter_Dad »

rodgerfox wrote: Mon 11 Mar 2019 7:48pm Yeo.
Cripps.
Higgins.
Bont.


This dude is very, very good.

He's basically a hard nosed, savage tagger that gets more ball than his high profile opponent.

Legit.


He could be our next captain at this rate.
F@rk off with your positivity - where do you think you are? We are 2 weeks out from the start of the season - stop making sense and trying to engender some positive support!!!!


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Re: It's time to talk about Jack Steele.

Post: # 1776846Post stkfc1 »

The new rules are going to really work in both our mid Jacks (Steele and Steve) down to the ground. Steele has just played over 50 games. This is when players start hitting their stride and his numbers are already very good. We may well have ended up with best player in that draft after all.


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Post: # 1776847Post saynta »

jaxons wrote: Mon 11 Mar 2019 8:23pm
Myron Gaines wrote: Mon 11 Mar 2019 8:20pm Also worth noting from those last 8 games he averaged:

- 26 disposals
- 13 contested possessions
- 5 clearances
- 6 tackles

Close to elite across the board.
Finally people seeing this.

Was on to this guy a long time.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=95710&p=1739302#p1739302

By the end of this season should be the best player on our list.

Star.
He is now.


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Re: It's time to talk about Jack Steele.

Post: # 1776883Post tedtheodorelogan2018 »

A grade potential Jack Steele. Very good trade and pickup for a 2nd rounder.


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Re: It's time to talk about Jack Steele.

Post: # 1776887Post saintsRrising »

I think Steele is symptomatic of Rich's Coaching, which has been an over-emphasis on the defensive or negative aspects of the game. Steele's game suffered under it, and since becoming a regular mid he is blooming more and more.

There has always been a place for strong defence, and negative football, but NOW is not the time to overboard on it. There was a window in the Lyon era when it almost won us a flag or two. But the game has moved on with tactics developed to counter it and you need to be more offensive now.

The 6/6/6 rule change has only made this even more so.

A dominant midfield is now more valuable as centre break clearances will present more scoring opportunities.

Our midfield lacks true stars, and it is vital, that some of our players can bloom into this role, and Steele is currently presenting as the most likely to be our next new star mid.

I think that Billings is continuing to build and bloom, but Billings is on outside player. Steele is that inside clearance beast we need.

I know the club has hope for Gresham, but after looking at those two JLT games I am not sure he is ready to be a full-time mid. sure develop his game and rotate him through there. Right here and now I would keep him as a small forward rotating through the midfield, rather than play him as a midfield rotating forward. That may then squeeze out Lonie as I would prefer Gresh to be assisted by Long and Parker to add speed and flair to our team.

2019 could be an exciting year. Perhaps not measured by the number of wins, but measured by providing a real blueprint to move forward with, and in having some new key cast members as key planks in that framework.


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Post: # 1776902Post saynta »

saintsRrising wrote: Tue 12 Mar 2019 1:55am I think Steele is symptomatic of Rich's Coaching, which has been an over-emphasis on the defensive or negative aspects of the game. Steele's game suffered under it, and since becoming a regular mid he is blooming more and more.

There has always been a place for strong defence, and negative football, but NOW is not the time to overboard on it. There was a window in the Lyon era when it almost won us a flag or two. But the game has moved on with tactics developed to counter it and you need to be more offensive now.

The 6/6/6 rule change has only made this even more so.

A dominant midfield is now more valuable as centre break clearances will present more scoring opportunities.

Our midfield lacks true stars, and it is vital, that some of our players can bloom into this role, and Steele is currently presenting as the most likely to be our next new star mid.

I think that Billings is continuing to build and bloom, but Billings is on outside player. Steele is that inside clearance beast we need.

I know the club has hope for Gresham, but after looking at those two JLT games I am not sure he is ready to be a full-time mid. sure develop his game and rotate him through there. Right here and now I would keep him as a small forward rotating through the midfield, rather than play him as a midfield rotating forward. That may then squeeze out Lonie as I would prefer Gresh to be assisted by Long and Parker to add speed and flair to our team.

2019 could be an exciting year. Perhaps not measured by the number of wins, but measured by providing a real blueprint to move forward with, and in having some new key cast members as key planks in that framework.
Good post.


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Post: # 1776903Post GilsAuPair »

With Steven and Carlisle on the sidelines it is fair to say Steele is our number one player right here and right now.


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Post: # 1776947Post saynta »

From Sunday's match.


"Jack Steele (StK)

115 points

If you weren’t sure about Steele’s SuperCoach credentials after a 117-point performance in Saints’ the first JLT Series match, you can be now. The 23-year-old tallied 25 disposals, 13 contested possessions, 10 tackles, two goal assists and 115 points against the Bulldogs in another standout all-round display."


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Post: # 1776959Post saintact7 »

Don't think we'll ever have another Lenny (my all time fave) but gee I see a lot of his qualities in Jack Steele.

Similar background too, Lenny from Sydney but spent development time in Canberra with NSW-ACT Rams, Steeley a Canberra boy who spent development time in Sydney with Giants academy.

Hope he's in for a huge year!


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Post: # 1781141Post rodgerfox »

Paul Roos: "Steele was just enormous'"


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Post: # 1781174Post George27 »

Another top game. Very calm. Great inside pressure. A beauty.


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