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To the top wrote:There were many suggesting Templeton was AFL class, when he was adequate VFL.
In regards Longer, how many times did we kick to Longer, the ball hitting his cement hands and finishing in a contest.
Sorry, but in at least 50% of those continuing situations I would expect our Number 1 Ruck to actually take the mark and then use the ball to advantage by hand or by foot.
Longer just can not catch a ball.
He is a liability.
Don't be sorry, you just having no *** idea!!!!!
All of a sudden your back Billy bashing, your silence was noted when Billy was taking causalities in the second half of the year, better get in before Billy finished top 10 in the B/F I spose!!!!!
Penny Wise impersonator!!!!!
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'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!! We will be great again once Billy is back playing!!!!!
To the top wrote:There were many suggesting Templeton was AFL class, when he was adequate VFL.
In regards Longer, how many times did we kick to Longer, the ball hitting his cement hands and finishing in a contest.
Sorry, but in at least 50% of those continuing situations I would expect our Number 1 Ruck to actually take the mark and then use the ball to advantage by hand or by foot.
Longer just can not catch a ball.
He is a liability.
Don't be sorry, you just having no f****** idea!!!!!
All of a sudden your back Billy bashing, your silence was noted when Billy was taking causalities in the second half of the year, better get in before Billy finished top 10 in the B/F I spose!!!!!
Penny Wise impersonator!!!!!
Must admit LF that I was firmly in the Hickey camp at the start of the season, and while I wouldn't write Hickey off as a player I agree that anyone who could not see Billy's development over the second half of the season must be wearing blinkers.
Longer moved from a center bounce competitor to a player with physical presence who contributed around the ground.
There is a reason the Club preferred him to Hickey this year and any talk of coach bias is ridiculous.
Billy has a long, long way to go to be a Gawn style influence on games but made significant improvement in 2017 and is headed the right direction. Similar progression of development in 2018 would see him become a valuable and influential player in 2019/20.
Big blokes take time to become overnight success stories.
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To the top wrote:This site is what it is - and who contributes goodness knows
But there are some who seem to have some credentials - so at this time of the year you browse for information, acknowledging the absence of confirmation by player or Club
So, with Haynes, you take it with a grain of salt pending any confirmation by player or Club
But that is the information you browse for at this time
As for some of the other comment, it is just so rediculous that you would assess the contributors to be primary school age children
As an example, we trade Armitage who is a class and experienced performer for a side which has now lost the experience of Riewoldt and Montagna, we trade Acres and Dunstan, and Mc Cartin because he is a Type1 Diabetic, we trade Gilbert and we leave our ruck resources with the cumbersome liability Longer, who is not capable of taking a mark or getting a possession with back up being Holmes and Marshall
But we fete Geary and Longer and Minchington and Templeton
And of course, Freeman and Carlisle are dud recruits
Well, we need to look at the bench mark sides and assess against their resources plus the improvement they will make heading into 2018
To say we are aiming at a premiership in some future year is a nonsense
You are in the competition every year, as is every other Club
So you assess every year, reference to bench mark and add 20% for the improvement the benchmark sides will improve by
That is the competition
We currently have those players Drafted in the top 20 during the Richardson years, plus Carlisle and Freeman.
And trust some others seeking opportunity with us that was not on elsewhere outperform the expectations of their previous Clubs
Plus the experience of Steven, Armitage and Gilbert who are our core of experience now
Then we have Picks 7 and 8 this year, but that is the future
These are the reasons you look for a story re Haynes - and trust there is substance!
Do you realise Templeton no longer plays for the Saints???????
He played for us?
I only remember him at Footscray and Melbourne and kicking about 16:10 against us at Footscray on day in the mid 70's.
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SaintPav wrote:Who says anyone's going to Carlton?
If you look at the official AFL site,
Kennedy is believed to be going to Carlton
and Devon Smith is rumoured to be looking at Blues and Filth.
It's the season for rumours, dontcha know
2020 was an aberration, when we travelled twice to Adelaide and won both, beat Tigers early, beat our bogey Swans. 2021 we've returned to our old ways. Damn
If you win a premiership, your Best & Fairest is the biggest night of the year.
Trust me!!
You are feted like never before.
Otherwise it is what it is, because, as a team you were not good enough
So polite applause falling on deaf ears, and the utterance of platitudes about improvement to be competitive.
Duty done!!
Brownlow and Media votes are more relevant because they identify players with the capability to influence the result of a game.
IF Longer wins our B&F, which I gather some are of the opinion he will as the premier ruck of the competition with his palming to advantage, his mobility and his impact across the ground with his presence, marking abilities and capability with the ball in hand by both hand and foot, also presenting as an option particularly going forward, then that is a commentary of a side which finished where it did in 2017 and went backwards from 2016.
But then you go to the statistics - marks, kicks and handballs.
Then you go to opportunity to enhance those figures because we kicked to his presence and he was not capable of taking the mark or contributing to the winning of the ball.
So I watch a different game to some on here who obviously watch thru rose colored glasses.
And my opinion is that Longer is a liability, an opinion which may gain some further enhancement courtesy of the work of Jacobs tomorrow.
Because that will be the comparison given an Adelaide win and Adelaide being the benchmark, a benchmark we must aspire to to be successful.
Silvagni was at St Kilda.
Then GWS
And now at Carlton he is obviously instrumental in attracting GWS players to Carlton.
2020 was an aberration, when we travelled twice to Adelaide and won both, beat Tigers early, beat our bogey Swans. 2021 we've returned to our old ways. Damn
SaintPav wrote:Who says anyone's going to Carlton?
If you look at the official AFL site,
Kennedy is believed to be going to Carlton
and Devon Smith is rumoured to be looking at Blues and Filth.
It's the season for rumours, dontcha know
Nah, don't bother reading it as it's mostly crap.
Isn't that your job to keep the saintsaitiional community up to date! You're very good at it.
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SaintPav wrote:Who says anyone's going to Carlton?
If you look at the official AFL site,
Kennedy is believed to be going to Carlton
and Devon Smith is rumoured to be looking at Blues and Filth.
It's the season for rumours, dontcha know
Nah, don't bother reading it as it's mostly crap.
Isn't that your job to keep the saintsaitiional community up to date! You're very good at it.
How would you feel about another 7 day ban for trolling?
2020 was an aberration, when we travelled twice to Adelaide and won both, beat Tigers early, beat our bogey Swans. 2021 we've returned to our old ways. Damn
SaintPav wrote:Who says anyone's going to Carlton?
If you look at the official AFL site,
Kennedy is believed to be going to Carlton
and Devon Smith is rumoured to be looking at Blues and Filth.
It's the season for rumours, dontcha know
Nah, don't bother reading it as it's mostly crap.
Isn't that your job to keep the saintsaitiional community up to date! You're very good at it.
How would you feel about another 7 day ban for trolling?
Are you projecting again Mick?
How can I be the one who is trolling when you responded to my post?
Didn't know you could dish out bans. Are you a mod?
Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
SaintPav wrote:West Coast are not easy to deal with.
We should just offer them pick 8.
We can always wait until 2019.
Take it or leave it.
We should somehow get a mid to late second rounder& offer that - take it or leave it
Fxxx them - they're like Essendon, Collingwood, etc
What did we get for Cripps ?
What did we get for Ball ?
There is a HUGE difference between players that are contracted and those that are not. Gaff is contracted. He can only leave the Weagles if they let him.
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