Why arent we favourites this week?

[plugger66]

Yep I know how it works and its based on the money placed on both sides but surely our form is so much better than the Bombers at the moment. Im not normally one eyed but is it a case of people just thinking the bombers will come good and we will go back to how we played last season?

[chook23]

there 1st half last week was pretty good......there best for some weeks

turn the corner a bit

expected they would be fav...

[mullet]

We will be too quick for them

[maverick]

Have to agree, thought the same thing…..
I think we are good odds

[borderbarry]

Sinclair and Fisher are good Ins for us. Carlisle a big Out for them..

[remboy]

Because the fifth best player in the draft is going to be a gun and the club don't want to risk missing out on him by beating teams above us.

[saintspremiers]

Ess $1.65 Us $2.25

So fairly tight. That's Sportsbet.

Remember to gamble responsibly whatever that means.

[samuraisaint]

Because we have only beaten them something like a dozen times in 35 years. Just like we have done against Carlton and Richmond since 1997 we need to turn this around and start beating them consistently.

[plugger66]

Because we have only beaten them something like a dozen times in 35 years. Just like we have done against Carlton and Richmond since 1997 we need to turn this around and start beating them consistently.

Im not sure how that effects the odds though.

[Dis Believer]

Yep I know how it works and its based on the money placed on both sides but surely our form is so much better than the Bombers at the moment. Im not normally one eyed but is it a case of people just thinking the bombers will come good and we will go back to how we played last season?

You know how it works. It's determined by how much money the bookies are holding on each team and their exposure. Would think it will shorten if they attract some money for the Saints at those somewhat generous odds.

Should both be around $1.85 or $1.90 given our record against the Bombres and the recent form of both teams.

Both Essendon and Colonwood generally end up at shorter odds than they should be due to the size of their supporter base. A large number of dimwits that are prepared to put their Centrelink payment on the Pies, irrelevant of form, pushes the odds down. Same thing happens to the Bombres (don't know what proportion of their supporter funding is sourced via Centrelink)......

[saynta]

Yep I know how it works and its based on the money placed on both sides but surely our form is so much better than the Bombers at the moment. Im not normally one eyed but is it a case of people just thinking the bombers will come good and we will go back to how we played last season?

You know how it works. It's determined by how much money the bookies are holding on each team and their exposure. Would think it will shorten if they attract some money for the Saints at those somewhat generous odds.

Should both be around $1.85 or $1.90 given our record against the Bombres and the recent form of both teams.

Both Essendon and Colonwood generally end up at shorter odds than they should be due to the size of their supporter base. A large number of dimwits that are prepared to put their Centrelink payment on the Pies, irrelevant of form, pushes the odds down. Same thing happens to the Bombres (don't know what proportion of their supporter funding is sourced via Centrelink)......

[samuraisaint]

Because we have only beaten them something like a dozen times in 35 years. Just like we have done against Carlton and Richmond since 1997 we need to turn this around and start beating them consistently.

Im not sure how that effects the odds though.

Because most right-thinking individuals who don't support either team are not going to throw money away on a win which is most unlikely to happen, that's how. I remember as a thirteen year old going out to Windy Hill in 1981 and seeing our win-loss record as being something like 52-102 their way. And what is it now - 64-136 or something?

[plugger66]

Because we have only beaten them something like a dozen times in 35 years. Just like we have done against Carlton and Richmond since 1997 we need to turn this around and start beating them consistently.

Im not sure how that effects the odds though.

Because most right-thinking individuals who don't support either team are not going to throw money away on a win which is most unlikely to happen, that's how. I remember as a thirteen year old going out to Windy Hill in 1981 and seeing our win-loss record as being something like 52-102 their way. And what is it now - 64-136 or something?

I still don't get it at all. What has our previous record got to do with the game on Sunday. We hardly beat Carlton in 100 years then we won something like 16 in a row. What happened 35 years ago wont effect the game on Sunday. I bet we were huge favourites in 2009 even though we lost the game.

[Teflon]

Who cares ?

[loris]

Yep I know how it works and its based on the money placed on both sides but surely our form is so much better than the Bombers at the moment. Im not normally one eyed but is it a case of people just thinking the bombers will come good and we will go back to how we played last season?

You know how it works. It's determined by how much money the bookies are holding on each team and their exposure. Would think it will shorten if they attract some money for the Saints at those somewhat generous odds.

Should both be around $1.85 or $1.90 given our record against the Bombres and the recent form of both teams.

Both Essendon and Colonwood generally end up at shorter odds than they should be due to the size of their supporter base. A large number of dimwits that are prepared to put their Centrelink payment on the Pies, irrelevant of form, pushes the odds down. Same thing happens to the Bombres (don't know what proportion of their supporter funding is sourced via Centrelink)......

Think you'll find a lot of gamblers money is sourced via Centrelink regardless of who they support..................... poor buggers hoping for a win in life and think that gambling will maybe just maybe do it for them!

[saintspremiers]

The murder takes away a lot of heat from the drug scandal for this weekend.

All teams bar Adelaide and Geelong are pretty much in the same boat for this round.

[saintspremiers]

The murder takes away a lot of heat from the drug scandal for this weekend.

All teams bar Adelaide and Geelong are pretty much in the same boat for this round.

[SaintPav]

Ess $1.65 Us $2.25

So fairly tight. That's Sportsbet.

Remember to gamble responsibly whatever that means.

It doesn't mean anything. It's bulls*** and just said to make gambling corporations and govt feel better about themselves.

They might as well say that 10% of your bet will go to poor children in Guatemala.

[sasaint]

Even in our halcyon years the bombers were our hoodoo team!

[Jacks Back]

Even in our halcyon years the bombers were our hoodoo team!

Didn't we beat them by 100 points a few years ago?

[Saint wagga]

Think there best is still better than ours, highlighted by there ability to beat Hawthorn this season. I'm guessing thats what the punters are thinking, even though it's a good matchup for us going on the last 2 times we've played.

[samuraisaint]

Even in our halcyon years the bombers were our hoodoo team!

Didn't we beat them by 100 points a few years ago?

108 and 71 points, plus two 8 goal wins going back a few years.

[samuraisaint]

Think there best is still better than ours, highlighted by there ability to beat Hawthorn this season. I'm guessing thats what the punters are thinking, even though it's a good matchup for us going on the last 2 times we've played.

The danger players for us this week are Hurley at FF, Watson in the forward pocket, Zaharakis on the half forward flank and Cooney in the centre. The ruck won't be a problem but our conversion when we get the ball inside forward 50 will need to improve if we are to win.
They will miss Collier, Carlisle, Fletcher and Bellchambers though. And the last time we played them we didn't have Riewoldt or Joey in the side. They are massive ins. Having Hurley at FF means robbing Peter to pay Paul, so let's hope it turns out that way.

[Mr Magic]

I reckon Billy Longer has the chance to 'control' the game for us.
With no really good 'recognized' opposition ruckman to compete against he has the opportunity to really get on top at the stoppages and give our on-ballers an advantage that they're not normally used to.

The first few ball-ups/bounces will show us if our mids need to be defensive or can go on 'all-out attack'.

[bergholt]

I reckon Billy Longer has the chance to 'control' the game for us.
With no really good 'recognized' opposition ruckman to compete against he has the opportunity to really get on top at the stoppages and give our on-ballers an advantage that they're not normally used to.

The first few ball-ups/bounces will show us if our mids need to be defensive or can go on 'all-out attack'.

Good point, this one feels like a really good measure of Billy's form. He should have a solid day out, 40+ hitouts and 15+ touches, maybe a goal. If not, given the context, then I reckon it's time to see if Hickey can run a game out.