Johnny Member wrote:Why don't you want them to sell smokes??plugger66 wrote:Johnny Member wrote:plugger66 wrote:lewdogs wrote:Pokies destroy families. Disgusting things that prey on the poor. Awful stuff.
Alcohol? Cigarettes?
Would you want the Saints to be a 'big, rich club' by selling booze to drunks and cigarettes to nicotine addicts?
I think there's a line as to where and how sporting clubs make their dough.
Why not start up a brothel somewhere?
No I want them to be a normal sporting club and sell booze like 99% of sporting clubs. I don't want them to sell smokes though. I may want you to grow a brain as well but we don't all get what we want. The moral crusader strikes again. If they want to start a brothel im fine with that but I doubt our sponsors would be. I think they are happy to let us have pokies and grog. Could you be anymore emotive by mentioning drunks and addicts?
Again, I'm hardly a moral crusader.
I gamble. I drink. I own race horses. I've worked at a large wagering company.
Gambling can deadset ruin lives. As can drinking. And plenty of other things too. But that doesn't mean people should be allowed to do it. It's their choice.
But, I don't think it's right to set people up for your own advantage. And that's precisely what pokies venues do. That's their sole purpose. It's the same as KFC ads having hot young people smiling and laughing and having a great time whilst eating a drumstick - instead of showing some drunked, fat, middle aged reserve umpire from East Bentleigh secretly scoffing a value meal in his car in the carpark (just for example).
Again, I'm not against them completely. But I do think revenue should be capped and the enticements banned. I don't think you should be able to advertise gambling full stop - same as cigarettes and booze. And for what it's worth, most 'recreational drugs' should be legal in my opinion.
People like pokies, and should be allowed to play them if they want. People should also be allowed to provide that service.
But I don't think footy clubs should beat their chests about how big and powerful they are, when in reality a massive chunk of that power comes from the money they took from pokies. It's not 'good business'. It's lazy. And as I said, the benefits that a football club gets and provides as a result of this money, is far, far outweighed by the damage that pokies can do to society.
As a footy club supporter, I find it a bit grubby.
I applaud North for going 'pokie free'.
Yep im middle aged and I umpire but I resent being called fat. And Im from east Bentleigh. And I don't want them to sell smokes because they cant smoke in the venue but they can drink and thus should be able to sell grog. After reading all your posts I have come to a conclusion that you are wishy washy and if I said red was red you would say its yellow. If someone else said red was red you would say its red. That's fine but it shows you are very immature. At leasdt I will agree with your post if I believe it makes sense. I actually did just before in the Essendon thread. Could be a first but you don't write a lot of sense. Even in the post when I mentioned Grog and smokes you attacked it as if I meant our club. All I was doing was seeing what lewdogs thought of those 2.
