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Over the years St Kilda have always had champion players. In no particular order, Locket, Harvey, Riewoldt, Stewart, Baldock just to name a few. The problem is we have only ever had 1 champion team. We need to learn from this in order to avoid this repeating itself over and over and over. It is for this reason why I believe we should trade pick 1....for the right price!!!!!
If there is a team out there that is prepared to give us 1 top 10 pick and 2 picks in the top 20 then we should accept this. IMHO, there is at least 50% chance that 1 of those picks will yield a better player than Petracca, with the added bonus that if our recruiters get it right, we may replicate Billings, Dunstan and Acres type result from last year.
My only question is, "Is there a team out there that would agree to the above"? If the answer is yes and we do the trade it will be Saintsational.
1 top 10 pick and 2 top 20 picks so you would get rid of pick for 10 and picks 19 and 20. I don't think so. Keep pick one unless we get a very promising footballer plus another top 10 like Melbourne last year. Surely we will just keep it.
I don't get this multiple picks will be better than pick one. Yes I have said many times there is no clear number one so maybe it isn't a strong draft but there is more hope of pick one being a champion or closer to it than a high top 10 pick and high top 20 picks. Maybe if we got pick 3 and 11 and 12 you would do it. Matter of fact you would. I actually would be trying to trade pick one for a young star player as it seems contracts mean bugger all this year.
plugger66 wrote:1 top 10 pick and 2 top 20 picks so you would get rid of pick for 10 and picks 19 and 20. I don't think so. Keep pick one unless we get a very promising footballer plus another top 10 like Melbourne last year. Surely we will just keep it.
I don't get this multiple picks will be better than pick one. Yes I have said many times there is no clear number one so maybe it isn't a strong draft but there is more hope of pick one being a champion or closer to it than a high top 10 pick and high top 20 picks. Maybe if we got pick 3 and 11 and 12 you would do it. Matter of fact you would. I actually would be trying to trade pick one for a young star player as it seems contracts mean bugger all this year.
I suppose the consensus is that 5-20 are highly rated and similarly rated this year. Personally, I agree with P66 (washing my mouth with soap as we speak), we got very lucky last year with Luke and Blake, I'm happy to keep pick one unless a crazy good deal was available - at this stage, that crazy good deal seems to be going the way of the Dogs so I think we will keep one and trade one of our better mids for a top 10 pick.
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plugger66 wrote:1 top 10 pick and 2 top 20 picks so you would get rid of pick for 10 and picks 19 and 20. I don't think so. Keep pick one unless we get a very promising footballer plus another top 10 like Melbourne last year. Surely we will just keep it.
I don't get this multiple picks will be better than pick one. Yes I have said many times there is no clear number one so maybe it isn't a strong draft but there is more hope of pick one being a champion or closer to it than a high top 10 pick and high top 20 picks. Maybe if we got pick 3 and 11 and 12 you would do it. Matter of fact you would. I actually would be trying to trade pick one for a young star player as it seems contracts mean bugger all this year.
I suppose the consensus is that 5-20 are highly rated and similarly rated this year. Personally, I agree with P66 (washing my mouth with soap as we speak), we got very lucky last year with Luke and Blake, I'm happy to keep pick one unless a crazy good deal was available - at this stage, that crazy good deal seems to be going the way of the Dogs so I think we will keep one and trade one of our better mids for a top 10 pick.
People are allowed to agree with me. If people don't they are obviously wrong.
plugger66 wrote:1 top 10 pick and 2 top 20 picks so you would get rid of pick for 10 and picks 19 and 20. I don't think so. Keep pick one unless we get a very promising footballer plus another top 10 like Melbourne last year. Surely we will just keep it.
I don't get this multiple picks will be better than pick one. Yes I have said many times there is no clear number one so maybe it isn't a strong draft but there is more hope of pick one being a champion or closer to it than a high top 10 pick and high top 20 picks. Maybe if we got pick 3 and 11 and 12 you would do it. Matter of fact you would. I actually would be trying to trade pick one for a young star player as it seems contracts mean bugger all this year.
I suppose the consensus is that 5-20 are highly rated and similarly rated this year. Personally, I agree with P66 (washing my mouth with soap as we speak), we got very lucky last year with Luke and Blake, I'm happy to keep pick one unless a crazy good deal was available - at this stage, that crazy good deal seems to be going the way of the Dogs so I think we will keep one and trade one of our better mids for a top 10 pick.
Agreed.
What's annoying are the suggested trade like 4 and 7 and saying McCartin and Laverde or whoever would be nice.
People need to remember you don't get the luxury of choosing who you pick up in comparison to pick 1.
citywest wrote:Over the years St Kilda have always had champion players. In no particular order, Locket, Harvey, Riewoldt, Stewart, Baldock just to name a few. The problem is we have only ever had 1 champion team. We need to learn from this in order to avoid this repeating itself over and over and over. It is for this reason why I believe we should trade pick 1....for the right price!!!!!
If there is a team out there that is prepared to give us 1 top 10 pick and 2 picks in the top 20 then we should accept this. IMHO, there is at least 50% chance that 1 of those picks will yield a better player than Petracca, with the added bonus that if our recruiters get it right, we may replicate Billings, Dunstan and Acres type result from last year.
My only question is, "Is there a team out there that would agree to the above"? If the answer is yes and we do the trade it will be Saintsational.
what a steaming bucket full of crap.....
<warning issued>
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citywest wrote:Over the years St Kilda have always had champion players. In no particular order, Locket, Harvey, Riewoldt, Stewart, Baldock just to name a few. The problem is we have only ever had 1 champion team. We need to learn from this in order to avoid this repeating itself over and over and over. It is for this reason why I believe we should trade pick 1....for the right price!!!!!
If there is a team out there that is prepared to give us 1 top 10 pick and 2 picks in the top 20 then we should accept this. IMHO, there is at least 50% chance that 1 of those picks will yield a better player than Petracca, with the added bonus that if our recruiters get it right, we may replicate Billings, Dunstan and Acres type result from last year.
My only question is, "Is there a team out there that would agree to the above"? If the answer is yes and we do the trade it will be Saintsational.
what a steaming bucket full of crap.....
<warning issued>
Agree!! Do people not realise sh*tywest is a troll?? Same for sainters85
Hardly a troll post, disregarding any past behaviour (I'm not aware)
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Rosco wrote:Hardly a troll post, disregarding any past behaviour (I'm not aware)
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citywest wrote:Over the years St Kilda have always had champion players. In no particular order, Locket, Harvey, Riewoldt, Stewart, Baldock just to name a few. The problem is we have only ever had 1 champion team. We need to learn from this in order to avoid this repeating itself over and over and over. It is for this reason why I believe we should trade pick 1....for the right price!!!!!
If there is a team out there that is prepared to give us 1 top 10 pick and 2 picks in the top 20 then we should accept this. IMHO, there is at least 50% chance that 1 of those picks will yield a better player than Petracca, with the added bonus that if our recruiters get it right, we may replicate Billings, Dunstan and Acres type result from last year.
My only question is, "Is there a team out there that would agree to the above"? If the answer is yes and we do the trade it will be Saintsational.
what a steaming bucket full of crap.....
<warning issued>
Agree!! Do people not realise sh*tywest is a troll?? Same for sainters85
appears ypu are not allowed to say so....so much for free speech....
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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2 top 10 picks and another between 10-20 would be hard to turn down. 1 top 10 pick and 2 top 20's - not enough. 1 top 10 , 1 top 20 and a young established player might be acceptable.
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LTN16 wrote:Agree!! Do people not realise sh*tywest is a troll??
Seriously? citywest has had 566 posts in almost 3 years. If they're a troll they're playing a very long game.
Trolls or not some posters just have an abrasive way of posting that irritate others with their lack of objectivity or positivity. A bit rough to warn over calling something a pile of crap.
I really do hope that Elshaugh and the Pelican get us a trade for pick 1. Like I said, I would be happy with a top 10 pick and 2 in the top 20 (or better). I saw someone post that if we just take pick 1 this year then every other pick is basically the same as the premier (which is true). If we do this each year it will be years before we catch up to Hawthorn, and now with Free Agency it could be 10 years. Picks 3, 18 and 19 got us Billings, Dunstan and Acres last year. If we were able to trade pick 1 this year for the equivalent of Billings, Dunstan and Acres that would surely be a win of mammoth proportions than just getting Petracca? To me it is a no brainer yet there are so many people against this. I just don't get it.
citywest wrote:I really do hope that Elshaugh and the Pelican get us a trade for pick 1. Like I said, I would be happy with a top 10 pick and 2 in the top 20 (or better). I saw someone post that if we just take pick 1 this year then every other pick is basically the same as the premier (which is true). If we do this each year it will be years before we catch up to Hawthorn, and now with Free Agency it could be 10 years. Picks 3, 18 and 19 got us Billings, Dunstan and Acres last year. If we were able to trade pick 1 this year for the equivalent of Billings, Dunstan and Acres that would surely be a win of mammoth proportions than just getting Petracca? To me it is a no brainer yet there are so many people against this. I just don't get it.
Because like every draft it is a very big risk, We lucked out with Billings Acres and Dunstan.
What happens if (and no disrespect to these guys) we select a Raph, or a Farahen Ray?
Petracca will be an explosive gun. But there is still a risk he could be a Watts
Unless we trade for two top tens and a player or two tens and a 20, I would be extremely dissapointed to trade No.1
it is nota lay down misere that we get guns late in the draft every year.
citywest wrote:I really do hope that Elshaugh and the Pelican get us a trade for pick 1. Like I said, I would be happy with a top 10 pick and 2 in the top 20 (or better). I saw someone post that if we just take pick 1 this year then every other pick is basically the same as the premier (which is true). If we do this each year it will be years before we catch up to Hawthorn, and now with Free Agency it could be 10 years. Picks 3, 18 and 19 got us Billings, Dunstan and Acres last year. If we were able to trade pick 1 this year for the equivalent of Billings, Dunstan and Acres that would surely be a win of mammoth proportions than just getting Petracca? To me it is a no brainer yet there are so many people against this. I just don't get it.
Because like every draft it is a very big risk, We lucked out with Billings Acres and Dunstan.
What happens if (and no disrespect to these guys) we select a Raph, or a Farahen Ray?
Petracca will be an explosive gun. But there is still a risk he could be a Watts
Unless we trade for two top tens and a player or two tens and a 20, I would be extremely dissapointed to trade No.1
it is nota lay down misere that we get guns late in the draft every year.
If you don't dare to win you lose. Put some faith in our recruiting staff. Just remember, apart from pick 1, every other pick we have is 1 spot worse than the premier. Then factor in that the premier have already picked up Frawley as a FA and traded for O'Rourke. If we just pick Petracca we lose IMHO. Give me pick 4, 18 and 19 instead of just pick 1 any day of the week.
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LTN16 wrote:Agree!! Do people not realise sh*tywest is a troll??
Seriously? citywest has had 566 posts in almost 3 years. If they're a troll they're playing a very long game.
Trolls or not some posters just have an abrasive way of posting that irritate others with their lack of objectivity or positivity. A bit rough to warn over calling something a pile of crap.
People are caught up with the romantics of pick 1. The reality is we can't afford to just have one top 25 pick a year or we will go nowhere. Regeneration will happen a lot sooner if we trade for players and/or picks because the idea of picking up a star in free agency is wishful thinking,
evo wrote: because the idea of picking up a star in free agency is wishful thinking,
Unless of course you are Hawthorn, Swans, Cats, or any other team that looks like it is a finals possibility. Free Agency will continue to stretch the chasm between the haves and have nots. A terrible time to be bottoming out.
