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Post: # 1396088Post ShanghaiSaint »

gringo wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
evertonfc wrote:Maybe we won't be all that active after all.

Priorities:
Elite Tall Defender - Key position defender who can play straight away.
Midfielder - Who can run fast, kick well and get goals.

Secondary needs:
Key tall forward - Better than Wilkes but to support Riewoldt
Small forward - Losing Milne and Saad. Is Milera and Schneider enough?
Depth Tall defender - To add competition in defence.
Definitely agree with your priorities but I believe you may be underestimating Lee and the Minch.
I know after the last five years of s*** recruitment us Saints don't trust youth but we need to re learn to trust youth.
I think Lee will surprise a few next year if his injuries stay away. I expect Milera to lift as his fitness increases too. Probably play more away from goal though.
i also see something in Terry... hope he can become a outside mid runner... he has skill and speed..

I also hope we take a punt on Dayle Garrlet


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Post: # 1396136Post gringo »

SEN had a review of trades and they claimed Dal still a target for North and Essendon but we have apparently lost some of our interest in Delaney and he seemed confident that Bruce would be at the Saints next year. Said no one will want Sam fisher now.


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Post: # 1396161Post BringBackMadDog »

bergholt wrote:
BigMart wrote:Harsh on Rodan

3 knee Recos

He was a good player at Port until injury
Yep, good player if a bit small. My point was that being highly rated at underage level doesn't necessarily translate and maybe it hasn't with Weller, for whatever reason.

For instance, the Morrish has a pretty consistent record of going to players who are too small to be really good at the next level, but who were obviously superstars underage. Jarryd Blair and Rodan were just good enough to make it, but Luke Shackleton, Mungara Brown, Caruso, Farran Priest, Anton Woods and Alex Benbow make up a massive fraction of the last ten years. Cavarra and Chisari this year look like they might be similar.

I guess not many big guys are much good when they're young.
Hawthorn recruiters had dinner with the cavarra family tonight. They are certainly looking hard at him


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Post: # 1396169Post SainterK »

Fisher not to GWS anymore?

Thought SOS wanted him?


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Post: # 1396223Post dragit »

Collingwood could end up with Adams for Shaw & J White for a 2nd or 3rd round pick according to afl.com

They always seem to win out in trades.

Let's hope Melbourne aren't silly enough to give them pick 2 for Shaw (&10), surely not.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-30/g ... eader-shaw


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Post: # 1396227Post Zed »

Pelchen has said that we wont trade pick 3 unless its for an "extraordinary" offer.

Question - does Adams and Bruce for pick 3 constitute an extraordinary offer ?

PS.. I don't think it will happen - mainly because Adams will probably prefer to go to a stronger club.


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Who says Adams is allowed to choose the club he goes to? He has already singled out a Victorian club. The choice is GWS and which trade offer they choose to accept.

I cannot possibly fathom how we are not moving heaven and earth to land Adams. He is EXACTLY what we need, in term of position, style, age, ability.


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dragit wrote:Collingwood could end up with Adams for Shaw & J White for a 2nd or 3rd round pick according to afl.com

They always seem to win out in trades.

Let's hope Melbourne aren't silly enough to give them pick 2 for Shaw (&10), surely not.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-30/g ... eader-shaw
If Melbourne will accept Shaw and 10 for pick 2, as is being reported, then would they accept Dal Santo and 21 for 2?


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Post: # 1396239Post dragit »

FQF wrote:
dragit wrote:Collingwood could end up with Adams for Shaw & J White for a 2nd or 3rd round pick according to afl.com

They always seem to win out in trades.

Let's hope Melbourne aren't silly enough to give them pick 2 for Shaw (&10), surely not.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-30/g ... eader-shaw
If Melbourne will accept Shaw and 10 for pick 2, as is being reported, then would they accept Dal Santo and 21 for 2?
Shaw has 4 - 5 years left, Dal probably has 2 - 3


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dragit wrote:
FQF wrote:
dragit wrote:Collingwood could end up with Adams for Shaw & J White for a 2nd or 3rd round pick according to afl.com

They always seem to win out in trades.

Let's hope Melbourne aren't silly enough to give them pick 2 for Shaw (&10), surely not.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-30/g ... eader-shaw
If Melbourne will accept Shaw and 10 for pick 2, as is being reported, then would they accept Dal Santo and 21 for 2?
Shaw has 4 - 5 years left, Dal probably has 2 - 3
Dal has 5 years left, easily.....will make it to 350 games.


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The Saintsational Man wrote:
dragit wrote:
FQF wrote: If Melbourne will accept Shaw and 10 for pick 2, as is being reported, then would they accept Dal Santo and 21 for 2?
Shaw has 4 - 5 years left, Dal probably has 2 - 3
Dal has 5 years left, easily.....will make it to 350 games.
Dal Santo born in 1984, Shaw born in 1985.

Dal has barely ever been injured, and as far as I can remember, has never suffered a long term injury.

No reason he doesn't have as much time left as Shaw.


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FQF wrote:
The Saintsational Man wrote:
dragit wrote: Shaw has 4 - 5 years left, Dal probably has 2 - 3
Dal has 5 years left, easily.....will make it to 350 games.
Dal Santo born in 1984, Shaw born in 1985.

Dal has barely ever been injured, and as far as I can remember, has never suffered a long term injury.

No reason he doesn't have as much time left as Shaw.
C'mon… talk about stretching numbers…

Feb 84 & Nov 85 makes them 2 years apart.

I think 2 years is a pretty good reason why Shaw is likely to play for longer than Dal.


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dragit wrote:
FQF wrote:
The Saintsational Man wrote: Dal has 5 years left, easily.....will make it to 350 games.
Dal Santo born in 1984, Shaw born in 1985.

Dal has barely ever been injured, and as far as I can remember, has never suffered a long term injury.

No reason he doesn't have as much time left as Shaw.
C'mon… talk about stretching numbers…

Feb 84 & Nov 85 makes them 2 years apart.

I think 2 years is a pretty good reason why Shaw is likely to play for longer than Dal.
Hayes - Jan 1980
Kosi - Sep 1982
Chapman - Nov 1981
Corey Feb 1982

The last three are done or just about done, but heaps younger 2-3 years, but Lenny keeps going....

I reckon Dal will play longer, his style of play could give him 6-7 more years if he stays healthy...


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Post: # 1396251Post dragit »

6 or 7 years? Wow, north will be rapt.

I'd be impressed with 3 more years.

Not many mids play far into their 30's these days.


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Post: # 1396257Post Con Gorozidis »

If the Pies get Adams for the total c**k sucker Shaw I will spew up.
The Pies are almost prepared to give him away for free so if they end up winning from the deal I will not be happy. Bucks cant get him out the door quick enough.
Surely Dal is better than Shaw.
Is this the seaford curse? Noone good wants to play for us. Or just people want to play for big clubs/big crowds? The latter I guess.


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Post: # 1396258Post maverick »

dragit wrote:6 or 7 years? Wow, north will be rapt.

I'd be impressed with 3 more years.

Not many mids play far into their 30's these days.
That's correct, not many ever have.
But Dal is one of those with tricks, inside and out ball winning ability and stays healthy, reckon he plays to 35 myself.
Lenny gets to 34, Boomer to 36, Goodes is 34, Bolton got to 33, O'Keefe goes again at 33... and I won't mention Fletcher...


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Luke Delaney Requests Trade To Saints!

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-30/d ... ets-saints


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sax wrote:Luke Delaney Requests Trade To Saints!

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-30/d ... ets-saints
Bruce now Delaney. Good to see players wanting to come to us. Get it done Saints.
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sax wrote:Luke Delaney Requests Trade To Saints!

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-30/d ... ets-saints
..and with the other article mentioning Dal's preference as North Melbourne IF the Saints want to trade him, then you would think the Saints and Roos at least have a starting point for negotiations with a decision of which draft picks to swap perhaps the sticking point


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@aflnews360: Taylor Adams' manager Winston Rous says Adams has met with the Pies, Cats, Blues, Bombers and Tigers. Not Melbourne.

If true, this is complete and utter ineptitude by us!


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Con Gorozidis wrote:If the Pies get Adams for the total c**k sucker Shaw I will spew up.
The Pies are almost prepared to give him away for free so if they end up winning from the deal I will not be happy. Bucks cant get him out the door quick enough.
Surely Dal is better than Shaw.
Is this the seaford curse? Noone good wants to play for us. Or just people want to play for big clubs/big crowds? The latter I guess.
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FQF wrote:@aflnews360: Taylor Adams' manager Winston Rous says Adams has met with the Pies, Cats, Blues, Bombers and Tigers. Not Melbourne.

If true, this is complete and utter ineptitude by us!
Maybe we requested a meeting but he declined.


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Post: # 1396302Post MC Gusto »

surely we would be targeting adams. just dont get it.


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Considering Melbourne is possibly putting their No 2 pick on the table, maybe we think Adams will require pick 3 to be part of the deal, and we aren't willing. I highly doubt that we would just let him walk past us without reason.


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MC Gusto wrote:surely we would be targeting adams. just dont get it.
see above


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