geelong

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
User avatar
MC Gusto
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6002
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 8:29am
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 360 times

geelong

Post: # 1274830Post MC Gusto »

geelong are doing what i had hoped we would do. wheeling and dealing to their advantage. great tarding on the surface of it.


#1 Ryder fan
User avatar
GeorgeYoung27
Club Player
Posts: 660
Joined: Mon 19 Apr 2004 2:54pm
Location: on a tight angle at the South Rd end

Re: geelong

Post: # 1274831Post GeorgeYoung27 »

Smacks of desperation apart from Caddy. Roll the dice for one more flag. McIntosh and Rivers are short term gains.


User avatar
AP Erebus
Club Player
Posts: 368
Joined: Sun 07 May 2006 1:14am
Location: Melbourne

Re: geelong

Post: # 1274832Post AP Erebus »

GeorgeYoung27 wrote:Smacks of desperation apart from Caddy. Roll the dice for one more flag. McIntosh and Rivers are short term gains.
To me it's just shoring up their list so the kids they are grooming to fill those roles have time to mature and learn.

Not a bad tactic imo.

off-topic: surely this is more appropriate in the opposition forum?


it has been around this time that "Kosi" will headbutt a fence, rip a hamstring or belt someone.
joffaboy
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 20200
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 1:57pm
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: geelong

Post: # 1274833Post joffaboy »

Have mentioned that they are likely to lose players due to the recruiting.

Next week will be the big week.

patience.


Lance or James??

There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
Sobraz
SS Life Member
Posts: 3399
Joined: Thu 29 Mar 2007 1:06pm
Has thanked: 2 times

Re: geelong

Post: # 1274834Post Sobraz »

I think they've done well..

McIntosh is a bit of a gamble, but if he gets on the park he will add to them, as he's straight away better than anything they have now (not including Vardy's potential)..

Rivers is a great get in a mature, solid team and, similarly to our Sam Fisher, is playing very consistent, mature and smart footy and will continue well into his early 30's... 3-4 years of good footy left IMO...


Sobraz
SS Life Member
Posts: 3399
Joined: Thu 29 Mar 2007 1:06pm
Has thanked: 2 times

Re: geelong

Post: # 1274835Post Sobraz »

joffaboy wrote:Have mentioned that they are likely to lose players due to the recruiting.

Next week will be the big week.

patience.
Good point...

Mitch Brown may go, injury plagued but has upside.. Who else will fall out the bottom??... Trent West may look elsewhere... I personally dont think much of him and would still prefer Hickey deal to work out..


Legendary
Club Player
Posts: 1900
Joined: Mon 04 Aug 2008 11:35am
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 56 times

Re: geelong

Post: # 1274836Post Legendary »

They are going to lose at least 2 players next week from what I hear, both under 24.


Sobraz
SS Life Member
Posts: 3399
Joined: Thu 29 Mar 2007 1:06pm
Has thanked: 2 times

Re: geelong

Post: # 1274838Post Sobraz »

Legendary wrote:They are going to lose at least 2 players next week from what I hear, both under 24.
names?


User avatar
evo
Club Player
Posts: 610
Joined: Tue 13 Sep 2011 11:19pm
Location: Wimmera
Has thanked: 10 times
Been thanked: 9 times

Re: geelong

Post: # 1274840Post evo »

With lists so tight and the prospect of a Suns/GWS domination looming, I think many clubs are thinking the window is only open for the next four years if that. I think Geelong and Collingwood are the big winners so far.


User avatar
bobmurray
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7493
Joined: Mon 03 Oct 2005 11:08pm
Location: In the stand at RSEA Park.
Has thanked: 417 times
Been thanked: 196 times

Re: geelong

Post: # 1274873Post bobmurray »

evo wrote:With lists so tight and the prospect of a Suns/GWS domination looming, I think many clubs are thinking the window is only open for the next four years if that. I think Geelong and Collingwood are the big winners so far.
If we got Hickey and Brown then we would only need a caddy to break even...


Saints looking like a bottom 4 team in 2024.
User avatar
dragit
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 13047
Joined: Tue 29 Jun 2010 11:56am
Has thanked: 605 times
Been thanked: 315 times

Re: geelong

Post: # 1274876Post dragit »

GeorgeYoung27 wrote:Smacks of desperation apart from Caddy. Roll the dice for one more flag. McIntosh and Rivers are short term gains.
I suppose when you have 3 of the last 6 flags, you can afford to role the dice without much retribution from fans, if it fails it wouldn't really matter - free hit.

It makes sense for them on paper though in my mind… they have a gun FF entering his prime, Selwood and now Caddy the same, 2 good key backs in Lonergan & Taylor… Plus a few stars with about 1 or 2 decent seasons left - Chapman, Enright, Kelly, Johnson, Bartel…

The addition of a very good ruckman & CHB will make them a pretty competitive side next year.


suss
Club Player
Posts: 1928
Joined: Sun 22 May 2005 11:42pm
Has thanked: 7 times
Been thanked: 90 times

Re: geelong

Post: # 1274893Post suss »

If i had the best talent spotter in the land, i'd leave him with some draft picks to use.

They must think they're ready for another crack. I'm not so sure.


The Redeemer
SS Life Member
Posts: 2622
Joined: Thu 29 Sep 2011 9:45pm

Re: geelong

Post: # 1274920Post The Redeemer »

suss wrote:If i had the best talent spotter in the land, i'd leave him with some draft picks to use.

They must think they're ready for another crack. I'm not so sure.
Or they might not rate the talent in the draft by the time their picks roll around?


St Ick
SS Hall of Fame
Posts: 2227
Joined: Mon 16 Nov 2009 8:37pm

Re: geelong

Post: # 1274922Post St Ick »

One must admire Geelong though. Prior to trade week/FA they set their heart on 3 players. Half way in they have all 3 and I must say haven't exactly paid overs for any of them.

On the other hand, we said we'd be aggressive, looking at Caddy, Hickey, Jacobs, Stevens, Brown. So far all we've done is spend our top pick on a relatively speculative state league fwd with some later picks with that...

So far, we are the big losers but still another week to save face...


Strength through Loyalty
Go those mighty Sainters!!
gringo
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12421
Joined: Tue 24 Mar 2009 11:05pm
Location: St Kilda
Has thanked: 296 times
Been thanked: 55 times

Re: geelong

Post: # 1274967Post gringo »

I think we were usurped on Caddy because the Goddard compo was so up in the air and gave us less certainty in what we could offer. I think we still have time to make this one a winner. I like the Lee trade and we didn't see the Saad, Milera or Newnes deals coming. Perhaps their best work was to get Dunell onto the rookie list.


User avatar
rexy
SS Life Member
Posts: 3373
Joined: Wed 24 Mar 2004 12:12am
Location: The Gully

Re: geelong

Post: # 1274978Post rexy »

evo wrote:With lists so tight and the prospect of a Suns/GWS domination looming, I think many clubs are thinking the window is only open for the next four years if that. I think Geelong and Collingwood are the big winners so far.
Collingwood have lost 2 best 22 players for a 30 year old with a glove!

Won't know their success until picks 17 and 20 are playing seniors, if thy do!


Maybe this year?
User avatar
evo
Club Player
Posts: 610
Joined: Tue 13 Sep 2011 11:19pm
Location: Wimmera
Has thanked: 10 times
Been thanked: 9 times

Re: geelong

Post: # 1275001Post evo »

They can still trade those picks on. I don't think Daws is much of a loss.


saintbob
SS Life Member
Posts: 3513
Joined: Wed 21 May 2008 8:51pm
Location: Tassie
Has thanked: 447 times
Been thanked: 288 times

Re: geelong

Post: # 1275004Post saintbob »

I like what they've been able to achieve in this draft, with out giving to much away.

Caddy - Apparently has plenty of upside

McIntosh - Proven

Rivers - Proven

Compared to our only pick

Tom Lee - Untried and cost us pick 12(f*** I hope he makes it)


Legendary
Club Player
Posts: 1900
Joined: Mon 04 Aug 2008 11:35am
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 56 times

Re: geelong

Post: # 1275049Post Legendary »

I say it again ... this time next week they will have 2-3 less blokes <24 on their list.

It's hardly planning for the future is it?


User avatar
dragit
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 13047
Joined: Tue 29 Jun 2010 11:56am
Has thanked: 605 times
Been thanked: 315 times

Re: geelong

Post: # 1275051Post dragit »

Legendary wrote:I say it again ... this time next week they will have 2-3 less blokes <24 on their list.

It's hardly planning for the future is it?
Aiming for their 4th flag in 7 years… I would be pretty happy if we were doing the same.

They can probably see the writing on the wall… GWS & GCS having unbeatable sides in 2-3 years time, they will dominate for a good while I think.


kimberly saint
Club Player
Posts: 303
Joined: Tue 16 Aug 2011 8:05pm
Location: Australia

Re: geelong

Post: # 1275053Post kimberly saint »

saintbob wrote:I like what they've been able to achieve in this draft, with out giving to much away.

Caddy - Apparently has plenty of upside

McIntosh - Proven

Rivers - Proven

Compared to our only pick

Tom Lee - Untried and cost us pick 12(f*** I hope he makes it)
we got pick 24 with lee as well, wat happens if we get hicky with 24. So thats lee and hicky for 12 just maybe we could get 10 good solid years out of two key big men for 12 , not to bad. So many ifs and buts, mcintosh is injury prone rivers is old lee looks to be coming on could turn into a freak but could turn other way to


gringo
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12421
Joined: Tue 24 Mar 2009 11:05pm
Location: St Kilda
Has thanked: 296 times
Been thanked: 55 times

Re: geelong

Post: # 1275095Post gringo »

kimberly saint wrote:
saintbob wrote:I like what they've been able to achieve in this draft, with out giving to much away.

Caddy - Apparently has plenty of upside

McIntosh - Proven

Rivers - Proven

Compared to our only pick

Tom Lee - Untried and cost us pick 12(f*** I hope he makes it)
we got pick 24 with lee as well, wat happens if we get hicky with 24. So thats lee and hicky for 12 just maybe we could get 10 good solid years out of two key big men for 12 , not to bad. So many ifs and buts, mcintosh is injury prone rivers is old lee looks to be coming on could turn into a freak but could turn other way to

if Lee had got to Geelong with their first pick and turns into the next jack Riewoldt or jack darling the forum would be in melt down over our incompetence. Caddy turns out to be another ordinary Salopek type and we give away our first pick for him the forum goes into melt down over our incompetence. I say we should just play the same team for the next 20 years and avoid all the stress of having to put ourselves on the chopping block.

Geelong have loaded up on good players but they could just as well be like Polo and Peake to us handy additions but taking away spots for developing kids that may have more upside. It all a balancing act and we went too far the way Geelong are going.


User avatar
evertonfc
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7261
Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 9:11pm
Location: 'Quietly Confident' County
Has thanked: 115 times
Been thanked: 267 times
Contact:

Re: geelong

Post: # 1275198Post evertonfc »

They've had an outstanding trade period.

They get to go again for a flag next year whilst buying time for their kids to develop - and they've got plenty waiting to come through.

It pains me to say it but they manage their list in superb fashion.


Clueless and mediocre petty tyrant.

Image
plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Re: geelong

Post: # 1275225Post plugger66 »

gringo wrote:I think we were usurped on Caddy because the Goddard compo was so up in the air and gave us less certainty in what we could offer. I think we still have time to make this one a winner. I like the Lee trade and we didn't see the Saad, Milera or Newnes deals coming. Perhaps their best work was to get Dunell onto the rookie list.

Rubbish. The Geelong comp pick suited them. Why would a club be in a hurry and then dud themselves out of a better pick. The comp pick isnt having any effect on our trading IMO.


Post Reply