Gram

[savatage]

How many fkn times are you going to wait for the ball to get to you???

[Teflon]

now, now, he played well against GC and usual apologists will be along shortly to tell you youre seeing things and being biased.

[savatage]

Hes played a handful of good games in the last few years. Simply too Soft at every single physical contest.

[BigMart]

What was the actual issue.... What did you want him to do .....

It was a s*** slow kick off the goal line, which a good spoil without giving a free was completed...

Tippett did the same thing to drop a mark 30 seconds later which would have been a shot

Or indeed Blake and Sam fisher allowing Tippett to have a free run at the ball whilst watching, ending up in a sore head for Kosi??

What about Grams effort 1 minute later on the boundary

Or perhaps L.Hayes effort on Scotty Thompson??

[Teflon]

What was the actual issue.... What did you want him to do .....

It was a s*** slow kick off the goal line, which a good spoil without giving a free was completed...

Tippett did the same thing to drop a mark 30 seconds later which would have been a shot

Or indeed Blake and Sam fisher allowing Tippett to have a free run at the ball whilst watching, ending up in a sore head for Kosi??

What about Grams effort 1 minute later on the boundary

Or perhaps L.Hayes effort on Scotty Thompson??

L Hayes aint the one the coach has deliberately singled out as a player at the cross roads and needing to "rethink" where hes at.

He chooses when to go time and again.

[gringo]

He's not alone, Lenny keeps missing targets, Kosi has been rubbish, Big Mac poor, Fisher disappeared, Jimmy and Goddard not sighted, Milne is having a shocker etc. they are having a pretty ordinary game while the Crows seem to find new ways to score

[savatage]

Goes soft at the contest as stated.

[joffaboy]

What was the actual issue.... What did you want him to do .....

It was a s*** slow kick off the goal line, which a good spoil without giving a free was completed...

Tippett did the same thing to drop a mark 30 seconds later which would have been a shot

Or indeed Blake and Sam fisher allowing Tippett to have a free run at the ball whilst watching, ending up in a sore head for Kosi??

What about Grams effort 1 minute later on the boundary

Or perhaps L.Hayes effort on Scotty Thompson??

FRkn hell Gram can do no wrong in your eyes.

he has been disgraceful tonight.

You have a go at Steven, well at least he has a go.

Gram has been lazy and REFUSES to put his body in.

Should be fkn well dropped.

[savatage]

Yep.

[BigMart]

What about milneys effort on the wing??

If we're gonna isolate one.... I'll keep going

Raphs missed tackle on Thompson??

[BigMart]

Fisher on the wing, coughing it up with a lazy effort???

[SaintWal]

Gram has never been the heroic player but his actions when it comes to the hard ball are now insipid. And if I here one more commentator say how good a kick for goal he is I'll kick the Telly. Simpkin deserves a game way before gram now days.

[spert]

I thought he did a reasonable job last night, and there are quite few others who could have the finger pointed at them, especially early in the game.

[SainterK]

We should have a poll, I love polls....

Whose 2 hours were a disgrace and no longer deserves to pull on the red white and black?

This week we can choose between

Milne
Kosi
Gram
Roo
Clarke

Have I missed anyone, I think Gilbert is out of the naughty corner now?

[ozrulestrace]

Gram moved back into the passenger seat again last night.

It's just the ongoing lack of effort at chasing, smothering etc that drives me nuts.

Maybe Aaron Hammill needs to pick up another mentoring job with Gram, to show it's the first, second and third efforts that win you the ball.

If not, Gram, it's time to leave

[BigMart]

Laughable thread.... He was not great.. About 4/10. But 8 were worse.

Provide examples. Not one, or we could highlight poor efforts by Gwilt*3, Blake*3, Clarke*2, Fisher*2, Dal, Goddard and Milne possibly 5

Gram probably made three average efforts.... He made the only smother and won some contests. He was beaten for the first time in 2012 .... But not to the extent Gwilt and Blake were smashed

[WellardSaint]

Gram has always been an outside player. Maybe the coaches value his disposal, better than some of his team-mates, so perhaps the plan is for him to hover around outside the contest, let Lenny or some other hard-nut win the ball and feed the Marshmallow.
He can then kick to a lead, or go deep deep deep, into the F50. He's a bit more precise than a lot of others. That's his value to the team.
But if the coaches keep telling him to be a receiver, he thinks he doesn't have to chase/tackle/smother "Not MY job !"
I agree on Hamill showing him how to go HARD.
Opponents can be 100% certain that taking on MarshMallow, is like taking on one of their children in the backyard kick-to-kick before dinner.

[Teflon]

Laughable thread.... He was not great.. About 4/10. But 8 were worse.

Provide examples. Not one, or we could highlight poor efforts by Gwilt*3, Blake*3, Clarke*2, Fisher*2, Dal, Goddard and Milne possibly 5

Gram probably made three average efforts.... He made the only smother and won some contests. He was beaten for the first time in 2012 .... But not to the extent Gwilt and Blake were smashed

Gram had 5 clangers -one of the highest if not the highest in the side.

The coach has PUBLICLY questioned him and earlier this season put the acid on him for a reason - why???????????????? cause he has history FFS.

To constantly "compare" him to say Hayes's stuff ups is to completelymiss and ignore the point.

Wake up.

[SainterK]

Thought you didn't care about stats?

Seeing they are suddenly important.

He had 8 contested possessions which is high for him, had 5 clearances (BJ 2, Jones 1, Hayes 4)

I still don't see him being dropped.

[vacuous space]

Gram had 5 clangers -one of the highest if not the highest in the side.

Gram had five clearances, not five clangers. He had 2 clangers. Fisher had 5 clangers, Gwilt had 5, Gilbert had 4. Dempster had one and Clarke had none, despite his laughably bad kick-in. If we're going to slaughter somebody for turning over the ball, Gram isn't going to be anywhere near first in line.

[saintkev]

Gram has the potential to break the games record at the club. He fails to chase and finger points at others to do so. He never puts his body on the line. He doesn't attack the opposition ball carrier. The only time he tackles is when he's second or third person in, or an opponent falls into his arms. His direct opponent invariably finds space and he's a lazy kick of the ball. As a result, if he continues to be selected, his body should be fresh enough to bypass Tuck's record of VFL / AFL games.

[desertsaint]

He's lazy or or gutless. Either way it doesn't set a good example. Either way others deserve to be in ahead of him.

[BigMart]

Why have three coaches picked this lazy bastard week in week out??

He's played 150+ not bad for a softcock!

[plugger66]

Why have three coaches picked this lazy bastard week in week out??

He's played 150+ not bad for a softcock!

Totally agree. Please people find someone to pick on that maybe close to being dropped because Grammy isnt one of them.

[WellardSaint]

Get the Cheer Squad to put on the banner against North: "We luv U Grammy !" surrounded by pictures of nice fluffy pillows (from Linen House, of course)