prior to the team lists being released Freo were paying 2.60. now they are paying $1.50. (as reported on the footy show) Worked as a bookmakers clerk when younger - learned a lot - and you're all right to an extent. What has happened is that the bookie set original odds for this game (may have been...

I've posted this on a similar forum topic Good article on '"modern footy-speak; an insidious, jargon-stuffed language concocted by coaches to explain - or rather obscure - the game in ever more complicated terms." http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,23527064-23211,00.html Here's anoth...

Good article on 'footy-speak' here, railing against coaches such as lyons and knights: "modern footy-speak; an insidious, jargon-stuffed language concocted by coaches to explain - or rather obscure - the game in ever more complicated terms. http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,23527064-2321...

Anyone watching Euro2008? Gus Hiddinck's done it again - never failed yet to take a national team to the knockout stages of any major tournament - impressive when you realise the last three teams he's coached - sth korea, australia, and russia. They discussed him on SBS regarding how he does it - ta...

What odds Lyon gets cold feet and plays him tonight?
Don't agree with the decision but it would make it worse to backtrack.
We'll see.

Making an example of an under performing player is a good idea... however it seems Lyon has chosen for effect rather than on merit (or lack of). In other words Dal's a scapegoat. What will this do to Dal's confidence? His teammates? Our chances of winning the game? Big call - lets see what happens a...

um...you know...UM...snzzzzzz

Have to agree - i was thinking of plotting a few only but was worried my choice could easily be swayed by what i wanted the graph to show.

Or more likely that i'd be accused of plotting a graph supporting one side of the argument.

Have linked to a graph showing afl clubs ladder positions 2000-08 to now Check it to see if there is indeed a particular pattern clubs follow or is the whole 'premiership window' a lot of guff. The graph displays 1st position at bottom (1) and last at top (16) You decide (sorry but image insert didn...

""the Swans can't possibly win the AFL Premiership with Paul Roos' style of coaching""
Robert Walls 2005

(was this lyon?)

Do you think that it is all OK when young kids 20/21 are having their character questioned, and abused by a pack of anonomous baying wolves. In a public forum. Indeed desert saint would you like to be young Raph reading some of the s*** on here about him. It's a fair point Bob_71. No i don't think ...

The real problem is that its a forum.... So where's the problem - it IS a forum. I would never bag my saints to other supporters outside my friendship circle - but here i can not only read others opinions on players, coaches, tactics, etc i can also occasionally vent my spleen. A strong family some...

On the note of Coaches... as we know, Alves, Sheldon and GT all took us closer... all were sacked. So because we sacked coaches that made us more successful we should not sack a coach who has taken us rapidly backwards? Now that is the st kilda way! Give Lyon this year - if the team hasn't improved...

"Saints'sins'n'all"?

We'll get a top ten draft pick two years running?

Or we can wait it out until the roos and bulldogs have relocated - yes they would be more successful financially and possibly on the field - but without a true soul! If they don't relocate then they are in all likelihood gone The remaining Vic based clubs - including us - would also be stronger and ...

Option 2? Are you suggesting that if we play kids we will lose enough to fall to 12th? In other words we deliberately select to lose? I thought we wanted to ingrain a winning culture? So we play down a few years - what then - get some decent picks who suddenly find they are the core group as the lik...

Blame GT but the problem is deeper than that as it has gone on for 20 years even in the last 2 where Gt had no part in it. Open both eyes and look at the bigger picture. Agree...and so what is the solution? The board is new so it has an opportunity to change the culture and look at how successful c...

congorozides wrote:i mean someone that accelerate away from a pack/contest/stoppage and makes something from nothing and who never gets run down from behind...

does sound a bit like harvey

Simple fact is, we're not good enough. On current form, there's probably only 2 sides worse than us, not 8. won't disagree - hopefully we're playing one of them this week. But given we have played so poorly its a decent question to ask HOW we've won 5 of 12? Is quality of the group high enough to p...

Spot on about 2004-2006. Despite worrying indicators in 2007 the team did suffer just as badly with injuries -although mainly in the first half of the season. I for one was prepared to cut some slack. Unfortunately those worrying indicators (lack of enthusiasm, lack of direction on the field) were a...

Rohan well and truly off the bandwagon now - article in The Age Craig, Clarkson, Eade and Roos top 2008 class. June 15, 2008 http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/rating-the-afl-coaching-class-of-2008/2008/06/14/1213321695696.html Rates coaching performances this year 2 former assistants don't pass:...

B: 70% Coaching Failure & 30% List Deterioration: Our problem is mainly the coach & his methods, but the quality of our list has also deteriorated over the last 3 years due to poor recruiting & player development & management.. If the list has deteriorated 'due to poor recruiting &a...

aussierules0k wrote: Ever heard of the word... Loyalty? Google it.

mugabe is currently saying the same thing - common call by inept leaders that know they're stuffed unless they can count on blind loyalty!

dcstkfc wrote:Harves can play if hes in a coma.

he did...champion!