Carlisle on trade table

[suss]

... at least according to The Age.

Can anyone access the article?

[Spinner]

Sam McClure reporting.

Can’t say I agree with this, probably been our most talented player over 2017 and 2018.

Obviously been told in an exit interview. Doubt the club would leak it, affects our leverage.

[Toy Saint]

Bundle him up with Newnes and send him to the Gold Coast for draft picks.

[Special]

Gubby is going hard.

I reserve my call and I’ll sit back and watch it all unfold.

8 years out of finals means the past plan ain’t working

[WellardSaint]

Good.
I know he's had back surgery, but I think he drinks his own bathwater and believes he is The Rock of the backline.
We need guys who want to put in a big effort every game, not just 3 games out of 10.
Letting SInclair try to mark, staying out of it, resulting in a Swans goal, is unacceptable.

[saintsRrising]

... at least according to The Age.

Can anyone access the article?

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/sai ... apDXt2M7DM

[st.byron]

... at least according to The Age.

Can anyone access the article?

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/sai ... apDXt2M7DM

If you hit the paywall, just paste the link into private browsing.

[Waltzing St Kilda]

I cut him some slack because of his injury.

With Brown approaching retirement we have no other gorillas in the backline and they're hard to get.

Why throw him away? And keep a whole platoon of battlers?

It's like trading away McEvoy, Stanley and Hickey.

[Teflon]

Good move gotta give to get
Grab the other king

[SMS]

Carlisle and pick 14 for HILL.

bookmark it

[cwrcyn]

We'd want to get another tall in. Are we seriously considering going into next year with Logan Austin or Darragh Joyce in a key defensive post? Where would Carlisle go?

[To the top]

Our dearth of tall defensive options sees Brown still playing, Battle pushed to defence and the recruitment of Rowe from East Doncaster in the EFL

Past that we have the developing Austin and Claravino - both impacted by injury during 2019 and not appearing at AFL level

Then there is Joyce who appeared in a couple of games

So we are hardly well placed

Therefore this reporting concerns me because it is the wrong direction - even allowing for recruitment because will ability be like for like?

Perhaps they are reporting off this site and the attacks on every player absent Geary and Longer

Perhaps we should re-sign Rowe for 2020

With Rowe and Geary leading our defence no doubt we will be right in premiership contention in 2020, given someone actually wants to take the responsibility of Senior Coach

Brown at full back

Rowe at CHB

Geary on a back flank

Webster and McKenzie also plying their skills in our back 6

What a future!

[To the top]

Just thought of the solution

We go hard to get Goddard back, offering up Clark and Coffield to get the deal done

[B.M]

Jack Steven

Was easily our most talented player 2017-2018

A fourth B&F and 8th in the Brownlow

He got actual results. If Carlisle was our most talented player, he’d have done better.

I agree, in those years as a spare defender, he was a good intercept mark. Those days are gone, and he actually has to play on someone... and a an actual defender, he is terrible.

Our second most overrated player

[Leo.J]

So Ratts, hopefully our next coach makes a statement about skilled players...and before he’s officially appointed we put one of our better ball users on the trade table.

[SMS]

He couldnt move.

I think hes cooked and we propped him up so we could sell him. and if true good boy carlisle on going along. he gets 2/3 year contract on good $$ we get Hill

[B.M]

Good ball users?

He marks uncontested in the d50

Turns sideways and kicks 20m toward the boundary... and he f***ed that twice kicking off one step, because he’s lazy.

[cwrcyn]

200cm defenders are incredibly hard to find. There are so many giant forwards theses days.

[damienc]

I find this both annoying and stupid.

So Jake will play for the Saints in 2020 if no other club wants him.

Are you serious? We either want him or we don’t. If we don’t then move him on.

Ok. What if no one wants him and we end up keeping him. Is he going to give us his best knowing the Saints were happy to let him go?

Just ridiculous

[B.M]

He is a 200cm bloke who can’t defend

A 19yo just gave him a touch up

[Sanctorum]

If Carlisle remains at St Kilda next year he should become 2nd ruckman to support Rowan Marshall, instead of key back. He starred at Essendon as a key forward and then demanded a switch to defence. His form this year is such that he is no longer in a position to demand where he plays, so the club should say to him: "if you want to stay at the Saints then we will play you where we believe you are best suited and resolve a major deficiency, which is in the ruck department, if that doesn't suit then we'll trade you out".

If his back problems are such that he is incapable of ruckwork then there is no point in him staying, he has been quite disappointing since returning from injury and it is quite possible that he is far from fully fit. In his defence, if he does manage to have a strong pre-season next year, he could well be the answer to the Saints ruck problems - Marshall's great form notwithstanding...

[BarryGrogan]

His strength was his mobility.

That's left him this year. For obvious reasons.


Will it come back? Who knows?

[1966]

According to Matthew Lloyd he is worth a late 3rd round pick. We paid more for Logan Austin.
Trading him and Steven out to free up more salary cap space. Why do we need to trade anybody out to free up cap space?
Who the hell is getting paid?

[skeptic]

I don’t like it... he has actual talent even if he struggled this year.

People are confusing potential with actual talent. You don’t trade out actual talent just for potential... we’ve got plenty of potential players

Bad strategy

[Linton Lodger]

Ducks and drakes I think. Carlisle obviously wants to extend and the Club wants to leverage.

Like we have an abundance of quality key defenders. We'll keep him and do a deal. Forget his games this year, although he probably won us a few. He's a calm, cool and collected gun.