Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
saintspremiers
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 25303
Joined: Tue 01 Feb 2005 4:25pm
Location: Trump Tower
Has thanked: 142 times
Been thanked: 284 times

Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281721Post saintspremiers »

From an impeccable source here they are:

(1) Better facilities on offer at Essendon Fields new facility about to open next year.

(2) Chance to play in the midfield

(3) Chance to play in a premiership

Also, he was offered MORE money at other clubs than Essendon, although I don't know which clubs they were.


i am Melbourne Skies - sometimes Blue Skies, Grey Skies, even Partly Cloudy Skies.
plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281724Post plugger66 »

Better facilities about 5 hours from his home. He was playing in the midfield for us in longer periods but I agree they have more chance of winning a flag than us. Reckon the money was a pretty good reason why he left and was probably the main reason.


saint6709
Club Player
Posts: 1416
Joined: Tue 22 Sep 2009 8:23am
Has thanked: 10 times
Been thanked: 94 times

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281727Post saint6709 »

Not sure why everyone is so ready to agree that Essendon has more chance of a premiership in the next few years than us - we under performed under a new coach last year - if lenny and milney etc can some how keep their form for another year - our young guys keep improving and we can fill the hole in the big backman department - I can't see why we can't give it a crack this year - A couple of IFS but all in the realms of possibility


User avatar
sax
Club Player
Posts: 976
Joined: Tue 29 Nov 2005 10:19pm
Location: Barossa Valley
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281733Post sax »

Who cares?

He's gone!


Foundation Social Club Member No. 296
User avatar
bobmurray
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7493
Joined: Mon 03 Oct 2005 11:08pm
Location: In the stand at RSEA Park.
Has thanked: 417 times
Been thanked: 196 times

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281736Post bobmurray »

saintspremiers wrote:From an impeccable source here they are:

(1) Better facilities on offer at Essendon Fields new facility about to open next year.

(2) Chance to play in the midfield

(3) Chance to play in a premiership

Also, he was offered MORE money at other clubs than Essendon, although I don't know which clubs they were.
Greedard...that's why he left

Good riddance....he was an unaccountable freewheeler....an aspect that Watters didn't like so he tried to change Greedards role.....and Greedards reaction...

he went to the Bummers....

How can you laud something that's not built...... :roll:


Saints looking like a bottom 4 team in 2024.
User avatar
saintbrat
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 44575
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 4:11pm
Location: saints zone
Has thanked: 6 times
Been thanked: 188 times

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281742Post saintbrat »

Facilities _mmmmmm
They are not even planning to have their training track ready till Jan, they will be using 5_6 diferant venuea
And when they do travell out the ring road carpark or up City link they will be changing in workmens portables as they have no building and wont for much of the year, hope his new ,ar has a good GPS


StReNgTh ThRoUgH LoYaLtY
Rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation, continuing steadfastly..!!
Image
MEMBERSHIP 2014 31,134 Membership 2015 32,746 MEMBERSHIP 2016 - 38,101
MEMBERSHIP 2017 42,095 , Membership 2018 46,998
MEMBERSHIP 2019 43,106 http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php? ... 9#p1816890
MEMBERSHIP 2020 48,588 http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=100107
User avatar
matrix
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 21475
Joined: Mon 21 May 2007 1:55pm
Has thanked: 4 times
Been thanked: 4 times

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281744Post matrix »

traitor


User avatar
skeptic
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 16564
Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 7:10pm
Has thanked: 3454 times
Been thanked: 2716 times

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281747Post skeptic »

I don't think Essendon are a serious threat in the next 3 years.

Obviously things may change but in that regard I think he made a poor choice.

I reckon we'll challenge seriously again b4 they do


kaos theory
Club Player
Posts: 1521
Joined: Sun 14 Mar 2004 8:38pm
Been thanked: 25 times

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281751Post kaos theory »

saintspremiers wrote:From an impeccable source here they are:

(1) Better facilities on offer at Essendon Fields new facility about to open next year.

(2) Chance to play in the midfield

(3) Chance to play in a premiership

Also, he was offered MORE money at other clubs than Essendon, although I don't know which clubs they were.
Your 3 points are laughable.

Yet the only one that mattered, that is money, you didn't identify as part of the 'facts'


gringo
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12421
Joined: Tue 24 Mar 2009 11:05pm
Location: St Kilda
Has thanked: 296 times
Been thanked: 55 times

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281752Post gringo »

I think we let him go to clear space in our cap and didn't want to pay overs to a guy that only had a few games in 2 years that justified his wage. We are a little more exposed losing Gram as well but I think both St kilda and Goddard will be better off for it. Not sure about Essendon in the next few years but it's funny that the big clubs have to pay excessively to bring in St Kilda players to set professional standards for their underperformers.


SainterK
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 21057
Joined: Thu 14 Aug 2008 9:53pm
Location: Melb

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281754Post SainterK »

I totally buy option 2 as a major factor, didn't get to play in the St Kilda midfield until Rd 19 this year....

Which was foolish IMO.

I think he will get runs through the Bombers midfield and will do very well.

However I agree, he is gone...time to move on.


gringo
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12421
Joined: Tue 24 Mar 2009 11:05pm
Location: St Kilda
Has thanked: 296 times
Been thanked: 55 times

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281757Post gringo »

SainterK wrote:I totally buy option 2 as a major factor, didn't get to play in the St Kilda midfield until Rd 19 this year....

Which was foolish IMO.

I think he will get runs through the Bombers midfield and will do very well.

However I agree, he is gone...time to move on.
If he gets a run with player on him he is screwed. He will struggle at Essendon where there are less quality mids and might only be a handy decoy for Jobe. He is a hard player to use well because he has some tricks and some limitations. I hope he gets a bit of his mojo back just not against us.


User avatar
Dis Believer
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5080
Joined: Sun 28 Mar 2004 1:42pm
Location: The terraces at Moorabbin, in the pouring rain.......
Has thanked: 240 times
Been thanked: 270 times

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281759Post Dis Believer »

I thinnk there were about 750,000 reasons BJ left, but I don't think any of them were the new Bomber facilities......


The heavy metal artist formerly known as True Believer!
IF you look around the room and can't identify who the sucker is, then it's probably you!
User avatar
dragit
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 13047
Joined: Tue 29 Jun 2010 11:56am
Has thanked: 605 times
Been thanked: 315 times

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281760Post dragit »

I can understand and forgive someone for leaving for huge financial gain…

However I would find it pretty ordinary for a 200 game player to leave his mates and club for any of those 3 reasons.


User avatar
White Winmar
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5014
Joined: Tue 02 Jun 2009 10:02pm

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281761Post White Winmar »

saint6709 wrote:Not sure why everyone is so ready to agree that Essendon has more chance of a premiership in the next few years than us - we under performed under a new coach last year - if lenny and milney etc can some how keep their form for another year - our young guys keep improving and we can fill the hole in the big backman department - I can't see why we can't give it a crack this year - A couple of IFS but all in the realms of possibility
I agree with this. Why do people think Essendon is a better chance than us? Finished below us and hardly have a cavalcade of up and coming stars. If anything, I reckon our youngsters show just as much, if not more, than theirs. Oh I forgot, they have a former rodeo clown as their strength and conditioning coach.


I started with nothing and I've got most of it left!
cwrcyn
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4176
Joined: Fri 15 Sep 2006 10:35am
Location: earth
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 1358 times

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281767Post cwrcyn »

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$







.


User avatar
st_Trav_ofWA
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8886
Joined: Wed 13 Sep 2006 7:10pm
Location: Perth
Contact:

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281771Post st_Trav_ofWA »

Three reasons he left for Essendon
1. They were the highest offer in Victoria ( didn't want to go interstate )
2. They are realistically on the way up the ladder where we are in a rebuild stage
3. After years at the same place a change can present a new challenge and maybe reignight a level of excitement ( after coming so close without getting the ultimate then hitting a form slump a change might be the answer to turning it around)


"The team that wins in the most positions and makes the least amount of mistakes, usually wins the game." -- Allan Jeans

http://westernsaints.wordpress.com/
lloyd21
Club Player
Posts: 707
Joined: Fri 28 Sep 2012 4:53pm
Has thanked: 4 times
Been thanked: 43 times

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281774Post lloyd21 »

Move on about Goddard he went for $ only $ ,my source is his sister who goes out with my son. End of story.
As for the bulls*** about Goddard playing midfield he has been tried as mid with Ross Lyon Failed ,again with Scott Watters failed.

Anybody who watched the Saints closely would seen brendon fail against Melbourne. Failed against Fremantle. Failed against Nth Melbourne. His spot is off half back don't get me wrong though he was a great player but not worth the $ move on.


StevieSaint
Club Player
Posts: 106
Joined: Sun 17 Oct 2010 10:47am

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281776Post StevieSaint »

He will not win a flag at Essendon


GO SAINTS GO
User avatar
stinger
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 38126
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 9:06pm
Location: Australia.

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281778Post stinger »

now, he's hardly going to come straight out and state that he left for the money.......but that's exactly what he did......


.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will

"Freedom of expression is the cornerstone of a free society,"

However, freedom of expression is not encouraged in certain forums.
User avatar
Saints43
Club Player
Posts: 1826
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 1:01pm
Location: L2 A38
Has thanked: 100 times
Been thanked: 11 times

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281782Post Saints43 »

SainterK wrote:I totally buy option 2 as a major factor, didn't get to play in the St Kilda midfield until Rd 19 this year....

Which was foolish IMO.

I think he will get runs through the Bombers midfield and will do very well.

However I agree, he is gone...time to move on.
BJ's had many opportunities in the middle over the years. How many clearences can you remember BJ ever getting from a centre bounce? He's got no idea how hard you need to go in there imo. One (very good at it) position player. Although obviously Essadun think differently because you don't play big money for HBFs.


maxdis 42
Club Player
Posts: 64
Joined: Tue 07 Feb 2012 11:27pm

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281784Post maxdis 42 »

Who is this man Bj you speak of?


Junior
Club Player
Posts: 1075
Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 5:59pm
Location: Aisle 36
Been thanked: 38 times

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281787Post Junior »

My first post on Goddard's defection.

Reckon it was the best for all parties, as for why he left I could not care less.

But he's not a good midfielder but an outstanding half bank flank quarter back.

To be a good midfielder you need to be a good clearance player, good contested ball winner and defensively a good tackler.

Goddard is none of these things, but will still be a very good player for Essendon.


A champion team will always beat a team of champions.
BringBackMadDog
Club Player
Posts: 1959
Joined: Thu 05 Aug 2004 9:29am
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 132 times

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281789Post BringBackMadDog »

The reason he didn't play in the midfield is because he's not a midfielder arsehole....when Lenny was out in 2011 he got plenty of opportunity and failed miserably, doesn't win the contested footy and he's to great below his knees.
As far as Essendon being a better chance of winning the flag than us, what a load of garbage, they rely on a 38yo to hold their back line together, their midfield depth is shallow, and they have a soft underbelly. They are no where near it.


User avatar
ace
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 10683
Joined: Sun 16 Dec 2007 3:28pm
Location: St Kilda
Has thanked: 29 times
Been thanked: 801 times

Re: Why BJ left St.Kilda: Facts

Post: # 1281793Post ace »

From an impeccable source here they are:

(1) Money

(2) Money

(3) Money


The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
Post Reply