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BJ, The importance of his season.

Post: # 695827Post karnak »

Hey Folks,

Would love to see some photos of BJ, how ripped is at the moment? Has always been carrying a bit of fat which has disappointed me as it costs him pure strength and speed. I want him to be super strong for his weight class.

If he steps into the midfield and kicks 30 - 50 goals and get 100 assists then we're sure fire favourites.

In my opinion the most important player in our team for 2009.

Carn BJ.


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interestingly he lead all the time trials on monday so that is a very good sign.

Showed in the finals that he can play on ball and needs to start making a mark on this comp. Has all the skills to be a top 10 AFL player


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i strongly believe how we release our better players to begin run and carry into space will define how well we go

we have one of the best back 6's in the league...our run and carry and space creation was a good facet of our latter 2008 play

the bottom 6 have to work their asses off to get the top 6 players free

its gotten to a stage where its obvious dal santo doesnt have the best defensive pressure skills...oh well...

get the poor boy free...we will get many goals a season out of his talents yet him applying pressure ala cj isnt going to essentially do squat

he just isnt a defensive player

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Post: # 695833Post mick13 »

Argh Im pumped up about him too. Just seems like theres quite a large expectation on him. Hope it doesn't weigh him down too much.

But I do believe this will be his breakthrough season. What 07 would have been had he not done his knee.


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Post: # 695838Post n1ck »

Would have thought that most teams who have a midfielder who will kick 30-50 goals, and give off 100 assists a seasons would be a pretty fair crack at the flag...


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n1ck wrote:Would have thought that most teams who have a midfielder who will kick 30-50 goals, and give off 100 assists a seasons would be a pretty fair crack at the flag...
re-reading that its a bit far-fetched

that would mean bj is directly involved or responsible for 4-6 goals per game

wont happen

god i feel like everyone is pushing him into god-like-reiwoldt-harvey untouchable status already


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n1ck wrote:Would have thought that most teams who have a midfielder who will kick 30-50 goals, and give off 100 assists a seasons would be a pretty fair crack at the flag...
re-reading that its a bit far-fetched

that would mean bj is directly involved or responsible for 4-6 goals per game

wont happen

god i feel like everyone is pushing him into god-like-reiwoldt-harvey untouchable status already
although he is capable of it, i dont think he is there yet

he is my favourite player and one that is super important to the saints. This will be the first time that he doesnt have to play off the back line and now can use his precise kicking to set up goals

if he kicks 1.5 a game, i can see him getting 4 assists a game

that is a hand in 5-6 goals a game and one that he is capable of, if he gets 15 possessions forward of half way he will have his hand in 6 goals a game, if he doesn't then he wont get his hand in 6 goals a game

i cant wait to see how he goes this year


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Post: # 695844Post bigcarl »

karnak wrote:If he steps into the midfield and kicks 30 - 50 goals and get 100 assists then we're sure fire favourites.
the only way he'll kick 30-50 is if he's used mainly as a forward.

i'd have liked to have seen him tried at ff or chf, but so many have him pencilled in as a gun midfielder that i think it unlikely.

that's okay, so long as somewhere on our list we can find a CLASS leading/marking target to take some heat off riewoldt. though i think bj could do it better, there are other candidates.

it's something we must do to have any chance of matching the big boys like hawthorn in terms of firepower, imo.


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he will kick 30 - 50 as a midfielder this year.

mark my words

he will set up those that he gets from direct clearances.


get excited fellow sainters. we're on teh march


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Post: # 695846Post bigcarl »

karnak wrote:mark my words
i have :wink:


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Post: # 695848Post ausfatcat »

karnak wrote:he will kick 30 - 50 as a midfielder this year.

mark my words

he will set up those that he gets from direct clearances.


get excited fellow sainters. we're on teh march

Forward pockets struggle to kick that much let alone midfielders


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karnak wrote:Hey Folks,

Would love to see some photos of BJ, how ripped is at the moment? Has always been carrying a bit of fat which has disappointed me as it costs him pure strength and speed. I want him to be super strong for his weight class.

If he steps into the midfield and kicks 30 - 50 goals and get 100 assists then we're sure fire favourites.

In my opinion the most important player in our team for 2009.

Carn BJ.
BJ carrying fat, your joking right :shock:


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Post: # 695865Post Saints94 »

B.J is one of the fittest in our team and you say carrying abit of fat :shock: :?


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I know what Karnak means about carrying fat


BJ and Maguire in the one pre season both got up to 96kg, Maguire's was a leaner muscle, BJ never looked big and strong he just looked like a big body

He has shredded some kg's and now looks a bit muscleyer, but at one point in his career he was carrying too much weight for his body...

he is at a good weight, he reads the play well, he loves the club and loves the players, he is a born champion and cant wait when he wins the brownlow

why cant a midfielder kick 30-50 goals?

If you run your arse off and you mark the ball anywhere from the 60m have a crack!! BJ can~


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Post: # 695907Post bigcarl »

Batnoe wrote:why cant a midfielder kick 30-50 goals?
well i guess they can, but i can't remember who the last midfielder was to do that for us. gram was our best last year with 20.

btw, if bj can kick 50 as a midfielder, he'd kick 80 at ff :wink:


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Post: # 695910Post evertonfc »

If we had a fully fit backline (Gram, Max, Chips, Maguire) plus one of Ray, Begley or L Fisher to be a running back, we could have the luxury of pushing Goddard into a midfield/forward role.

Imagine it...passes actually hitting Riewoldt on the chest.

:shock:

Perhaps when/if Dal Santo struggles, I'd switch the two of them. Get Dal behind the ball (I'd rather him in the midfield but he's not firing there, switch him back) and move Goddard up the park.

Different players, yes, but you're not losing anything by way of skill, which is crucial and so often happens when we take NDS from the midfield.


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karnak wrote:he will kick 30 - 50 as a midfielder this year.

mark my words

he will set up those that he gets from direct clearances.


get excited fellow sainters. we're on teh march
Just name any midfielder who can kick up to 50 goals in a year. If we get 20-25 out of him it would be a great year. No wonder people get disappointed with our players if we expect that in a year.


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Post: # 695961Post Saints94 »

plugger66 wrote:
karnak wrote:he will kick 30 - 50 as a midfielder this year.

mark my words

he will set up those that he gets from direct clearances.


get excited fellow sainters. we're on teh march
Just name any midfielder who can kick up to 50 goals in a year. If we get 20-25 out of him it would be a great year.
Plugger has a point there most midfielder average around 25-28 goals per year


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The importance of BJ having a good year is crucial from many angles. If he can start the year at warp speed he'll attract attention from the opposition which can only help those with the heavy tag.

BJ doesn't seem to get much attention from media or opposition - he could go into 09 very underrated. If anything they get stuck into him when he cracks the sh*ts (opposition players, not media). His passion is great but he just needs to keep it in check, take it out on them by kicking their buts from a footy perspective.

He probably has the most upside of any player in our team at present because it hasn't all come together for him yet.

In the early days he was described as slow and awkward but he's body and brain are maturing and in 08 not only did he recover from knee surgery in an impressive way but he began to put it all together - 09 bring it on.


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Gram01 wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
karnak wrote:he will kick 30 - 50 as a midfielder this year.

mark my words

he will set up those that he gets from direct clearances.


get excited fellow sainters. we're on teh march
Just name any midfielder who can kick up to 50 goals in a year. If we get 20-25 out of him it would be a great year.
Plugger has a point there most midfielder average around 25-28 goals per year
no they dont

give me stats that most midfielers score 25-28 goals per year

hell if we get roo to kick 50, milne 50, kosi 40 and two mids to kick 30 we will be doing swimmingly (if the other 17 per week arent going to badly)


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and i am the number 1 bj bangwagoner


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Post: # 697351Post makemytime »

mmm... only Geelong has many mids averaging 20+ goals, and thats cause their forward line doesn't contribute as much. Thats why Bartel, Ablett, Corey and etc averaged about a goal per game


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Post: # 697354Post borderbarry »

I would like to see BJ at HF with spells on the ball. Also like to see Sam Fish and Raf Clarke do the same. Not all at once mind.


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