Brisbane Lions to move on Cousins - The Age (Caro Wilson)

Hurricane · Post: # 671839Post **Hurricane** » Tue 11 Nov 2008 1:40pm

fingers wrote:
St Igmata wrote:Wont have as much attention or pressure in Brisbane.
One team town (for now)? Could argue that he would have more.

Its the same with Melbourne Storm in the NRL.

Yes it is a 1 team town but Rugby is not the main sport so "bad boys" that come here to play settle down because they are out of the spotlight somewhat.

BANG BANG

Con Gorozidis · Tue 11 Nov 2008 1:49pm

B W and R all over wrote:Not good for us. I still reckon we'll get him but we might now be forced to use a higher pick, which does make the investment just that little bit more risky. (As if it wasn't already risky enough)

I think the problem is Voss has a bit of a messiah complex, possibly due to his naivity in the job. He thinks he can rebuild Brisbane and he thinks he can turn Ben's life around. Good luck to him if he can but with so much to learn and adjust to as a first-year coach (with no apprenticeship) I don't you need to deal with this on top.

Of course this is all just coming from two strong beliefs I have.

1. I want Ben Cousins at St Kilda
2. Michael Voss is all corporate motivation speak and has no idea how to coach.

i agree with you on all counts. can i buy you a beer? m voss really annoys me.

on the flip side i reckon the lions are closer than people think. they have some decent young players - rischi, adcock, brennan, leunberger, the new kid from perth (his name escapes me).

also no crown casino in perth... and he can go surfing during the week up there... im worried now

B W and R all over · Tue 11 Nov 2008 2:46pm

Con Gorozidis wrote:can i buy you a beer?

Any time, Con. You still run the show at all the Brighton pubs?

Sobraz · Post: # 671872Post **Sobraz** » Tue 11 Nov 2008 4:07pm

B W and R all over wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:can i buy you a beer?
Any time, Con. You still run the show at all the Brighton pubs?

His reputation proceeds him it seems....

Saints94 · Post: # 671880Post **Saints94** » Tue 11 Nov 2008 4:23pm

He won't go up there trust me

Saints Premiers 2008 · Tue 11 Nov 2008 4:24pm

homework wrote:He won't go up there trust me

ok, case closed

the wink explains it all

Con Gorozidis · Wed 12 Nov 2008 4:43pm

homework wrote:He won't go up there trust me

ok. any more info tyn that? thats what john howard said about the GST

what if blacky (also a perth boy) takes him on a surf trip up the sunshine coast...

undecided · Post: # 672533Post **undecided** » Thu 13 Nov 2008 10:10pm

its simple, if brisbane want him they will get him so hopefully cuz tell them he would rather not play for them

stinger · Post: # 672535Post **stinger** » Thu 13 Nov 2008 10:27pm

undecided wrote:its simple, if brisbane want him they will get him so hopefully cuz tell them he would rather not play for them

only if he goes in the pre-season draft.....

ace · Post: # 672556Post **ace** » Thu 13 Nov 2008 11:33pm

Archie Fraser says St Kilda will not get into a bidding war with Brisbane for Cousins.

http://saints.com.au/tabid/5315/Default ... wsid=69739

However if Ricky Nixon is doing his job right he will have placed great emphasis on what a club is prepared to do for Ben to help him.
If a club like Brisbane approaches Nixon at the last minute they should be in for a shock.
I would expect Nixon to say that St Kilda has guaranteed to do this and that for Ben, and if Brisbane is not prepared to guarantee the same they should not waste their pick.
Voss has said he may like to have Ben as player but has not even started to think about the other issues involved.

I would expect Voss to decide against proceeding at last minute as too dfficult.
Of course if St Kilda has not been through these processes they should also stay clear.
This player needs to be treated as a special case by which ever club picks him.

Either way Nixon should be able to let St Kilda know before the draft if Brisbane is seriously interested or just being mischevious.
Lets not forget mischevious and publicity seeking are part of Voss' character.

Solar · Post: # 672559Post **Solar** » Thu 13 Nov 2008 11:46pm

so brisbane want cousins and davis.... seems a strange way to go about rebuilding.....

anyone seeing alot of timmy watson in voss?

B W and R all over · Fri 14 Nov 2008 10:41am

From what I can tell it seems St Kilda would be Ben's first choice, but that might not carry much weight.

What worries me is that Brisbane are in a much stronger drafting position than us.

They have picks 7, 25 and 41 while we have 13, 47 and 48.

Assuming we wouldn't be bold (or stupid) enough to spend our first pick on him, Brisbane could easily nab him with their third pick.

And Voss might be just naive enough to think he can be the one to turn Ben's life around.

longtimesaint · Fri 14 Nov 2008 11:02am

Has he registered for the national draft?
If it is only the PSD then Brisbane would take him with their first pick which is before ours.

markp · Post: # 672633Post **markp** » Fri 14 Nov 2008 11:14am

I would think if it's decided he should go to the Saints, Ricky Nixon would paint any attempt to gazump or hinder the deal as a reckless act that could endanger the health of Cousins.... and perhaps rightly so.

saintsRrising · Sat 15 Nov 2008 9:50pm

B W and R all over wrote: They have picks 7, 25 and 41 while we have 13, 47 and 48.

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Plus in the PSD...they again are in front of us...

And that sums up our problem...which is a BIG one if Voss wants Cousins.

Voss has already shown interest in older players...and tried to talk retired Lions into playing on.

Our only chance is if Cousins really does not want to go there...and that some bad blood forms.

If not...the Lions I fear will nab him.