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What is generally sad about Moorabbin?ohwhenthesaints! wrote:For what it's worth, I am excited of the prospect of a new facility in Seaford. I support the fact the boys will have a decent training centre, but for purely selfish reasons I will also be relieved not to watch another training session at that cold, depressing, rundown and generally sad place.
I wonder, will people who are not supportive of the decision be willing to admit the club got it right should the move be successful?
No, I am one of those wipper snappers that wasn't born then.Bernard Shakey wrote:What is generally sad about Moorabbin?ohwhenthesaints! wrote:For what it's worth, I am excited of the prospect of a new facility in Seaford. I support the fact the boys will have a decent training centre, but for purely selfish reasons I will also be relieved not to watch another training session at that cold, depressing, rundown and generally sad place.
I wonder, will people who are not supportive of the decision be willing to admit the club got it right should the move be successful?
You obviously were not there in the sixties and seventies when we played there in grand finals and won our premiership.
Were you that the Thursday before the '97 grand final? Nothing sad about thousands of Saints supporters egging on their heros.
Many great memories of Moorabbin Oval and no sad depressing ones.
ohwhenthesaints! wrote:For what it's worth, I am excited of the prospect of a new facility in Seaford. I support the fact the boys will have a decent training centre, but for purely selfish reasons I will also be relieved not to watch another training session at that cold, depressing, rundown and generally sad place.
I wonder, will people who are not supportive of the decision be willing to admit the club got it right should the move be successful?
Bernard Shakey wrote:What is generally sad about Moorabbin?
You obviously were not there in the sixties and seventies when we played there in grand finals and won our premiership.
Were you that the Thursday before the '97 grand final? Nothing sad about thousands of Saints supporters egging on their heros.
Many great memories of Moorabbin Oval and no sad depressing ones.
I think the point ohwhenthesaints is making is that it not the memories and history but the run down condition of the place...ohwhenthesaints! wrote:No, I am one of those wipper snappers that wasn't born then.
I am not saying the memories are sad, of course I can appreciate the history of the ground. However it's just like when you visit a run-down and neglected property, and you are told it cannot be restored to it's former glory. It's sad, the place just makes me feel depressed...
I would suggest that the new premises have a museum, and we should bring as much stuff that can be unbolted and that isn't tied down.
Don't wait for the light at the end of the tunnel to appear, run down there and light the bloody thing yourself!
Very interesting indeed!casey scorp wrote:
What I find instructive is that:
* the term "$1.43m, plus all additional costs" is repeated in precisely the same manner - even to the extent of having a comma in the same place in each of them. It has obviously been lifted directly out of an agreed set of words. The intention is thus very clear - to emphasise that the club is picking up any extra costs
* the Council media release says that the project is "$11 million plus" whereas it is simply $11 million in the football industry media releases. The Council is being very particular, and is making it clear that it expects the cost to be more than $11 million, the total cost isn't known, and that St KFC is picking up every bit of the "plus" on its own.
Why do I continually get a sense of deja vu when I read B4's posts?barks4eva wrote:The relocation is just another example of the utter contempt shown to the members by the current board.
At the time of the ballot, the current board knew full well of the location yet when asking for the members votes, chose not to reveal that they were going to locate the St.Kilda Football club to Frankston>Seaford.
This is disingenuous at best and imo, shows compete and utter contempt to the members of this club.
With such a monumental decision further locating the club away from the city centre and ignoring the oppportunity to locate the club back closer to the St.Kilda area, it has not only passed up a significant opportunity, but it is now basing an AFL club in Seaford of all places!
With the initial deal falling through, the immediate response from the board was to not canvass other possibilities, but to go hunting for any vacant lot in the Frankston area, revealing their fixed agenda and their tunnel vision for the future!
it aint the VFL any more.barks4eva wrote:The relocation is just another example of the utter contempt shown to the members by the current board.
At the time of the ballot, the current board knew full well of the location yet when asking for the members votes, chose not to reveal that they were going to locate the St.Kilda Football club to Frankston>Seaford.
This is disingenuous at best and imo, shows compete and utter contempt to the members of this club.
With such a monumental decision further locating the club away from the city centre and ignoring the oppportunity to locate the club back closer to the St.Kilda area, it has not only passed up a significant opportunity, but it is now basing an AFL club in Seaford of all places!
With the initial deal falling through, the immediate response from the board was to not canvass other possibilities, but to go hunting for any vacant lot in the Frankston area, revealing their fixed agenda and their tunnel vision for the future!
de-ja-something....................and it aint vuGrumpyOne wrote:Why do I continually get a sense of deja vu when I read B4's posts?barks4eva wrote:The relocation is just another example of the utter contempt shown to the members by the current board.
At the time of the ballot, the current board knew full well of the location yet when asking for the members votes, chose not to reveal that they were going to locate the St.Kilda Football club to Frankston>Seaford.
This is disingenuous at best and imo, shows compete and utter contempt to the members of this club.
With such a monumental decision further locating the club away from the city centre and ignoring the oppportunity to locate the club back closer to the St.Kilda area, it has not only passed up a significant opportunity, but it is now basing an AFL club in Seaford of all places!
With the initial deal falling through, the immediate response from the board was to not canvass other possibilities, but to go hunting for any vacant lot in the Frankston area, revealing their fixed agenda and their tunnel vision for the future!
So, are you predicting AFL is going global?Pilgram wrote:
it aint the VFL any more.
its big business.
pre-season games are played on three seperate continents and you have the ignorance to debate growth.
grow up!
I think Pilgram's point is that the whole suburban rivalry as well as "heartland" era has long gone.Bernard Shakey wrote:So, are you predicting AFL is going global?Pilgram wrote:
it aint the VFL any more.
its big business.
pre-season games are played on three seperate continents and you have the ignorance to debate growth.
grow up!
Even the NFL hasn't managed that and no way AFL ever will.
Just the AFL wasting our money by playing any games, at all, overseas.