Buddy Franklin !!

[saintgus]

Fair to say this guy is a bloody machine ?

I'll give up draft picks for the next ten years to purchase him...
imagine him n rieowldt together !! haha im dreamin

but seriously 'Buddy' is unbelievable

[stinger]

imagine if he starts holding his marks and became more sure handed.,....20 goals in a match would not be out of his reach...most exicting full forward since plugger...without a shadow of a doubt.....cream certainly rises to the top......

[The_Dud]

is good, but when the ball hits the ground he is flat out hopeless

[Liam_G]

Dunno about "flat out" hopeless, he kicked 2 of his 7 today from ground ball gathers below his knees. He may struggle a bit in that department at the moment, but it looks like he has been working on it. Even players of his skill still have to work on certain areas of their games.

[True Blue Sainter]

Will be a superstar. Such a difficult player to match up on.... More than a headache for opposition coaches... I remember somebody once stating that "Lance was made for September" or something along those lines... never heard a truer statement. Considering he kicked 2.11 the other week it's a fairly big turnaround...

[St Fidelius]

is good, but when the ball hits the ground he is flat out hopeless

I think you must be referring to an incident in the 3rd quarter when he was stuffed after competing for the 3 consecutive contest in as many minutes..

Most of the time his second efforts a great IMO

[The_Dud]

once he becomes more consistent, as he sometimes goes missing, and puts in some better second and third efforts, he will be a star

but he hasn't reached that level yet

oh, and he also must be one of the biggest divers in the game, his two in 30 seconds today were pathetic

[saintgus]

The_Dud...wat are you on...he is a genuine superstar

[SaintBot]

The_Dud...wat are you on...he is a genuine superstar

always looks dangerous...isnt dangerous often enough yet

[The_Dud]

The_Dud...wat are you on...he is a genuine superstar

if hes a genuine superstar, than Jonathon Brown must be the greatest player of all time

[saintsRrising]

The_Dud...wat are you on...he is a genuine superstar

if hes a genuine superstar, than Jonathon Brown must be the greatest player of all time

Err..Franklin is only 20 yrs 7 months......and is already very very good....and is improving at a frightening rate.

Now he may plateau......by if he keeps improving then you are talking about someone who will be in the top 5 in the competition.

[woooosaints]

franklin is a idiot thinks so highly of himself his post match comments pretty much sounded like he could win games of his own boot. then you go to travis clokes interview he couldnt be more modest and happy franklin is a tool

[Enrico_Misso]

He was always fabulously talented, but had a reputation as a kid with a big head, lazy, and difficult to manage.

That was the reason he was pick 5 in the 2004 draft.
Clubs with higher picks weren't prepared to take a risk on him.

Hawthorn got him and so far it looks like paying off.
But he might still be a bit of a liability off-field !

[woooosaints]

he is a still a twat if riewoldt or kosi had that attitude id ask them to be traded.

[bigcarl]

the fact that he has kicked seven in his first final says to me that he's already a superstar.

not even 21 yet ... scary. the fact that he's kicked them in a final and when it counts says a lot

[The_Dud]

the fact that he has kicked seven in his first final says to me that he's already a superstar.

not even 21 yet ... scary. the fact that he's kicked them in a final and when it counts says a lot

so does that make the Adelaide bloke who kicked a bag against us in the 97 GF a superstar?

no

[plugger66]

he is a still a twat if riewoldt or kosi had that attitude id ask them to be traded.

Yes good comment. G looked interested in all games did he. Open both eyes or have you had one removed.

I hope people saying how good Franklin is are not the ones saying hopeless he was before we played them. Lets get this right. He is great already and will be a superstar in the future.

[ifonlybarkswashere]

He was always fabulously talented, but had a reputation as a kid with a big head, lazy, and difficult to manage.

That was the reason he was pick 5 in the 2004 draft.
Clubs with higher picks weren't prepared to take a risk on him.

Hawthorn got him and so far it looks like paying off.
But he might still be a bit of a liability off-field !

C'mon are you serious man! Franklin is a gun. An off field liability as compared to who... Cousins, Fev, Farmer, Kerr, etc, etc. He doesn't deserve to rated on innuendo and is a star... even though he's a Hawk let's just appreciate him for what he does on the park.

[cwrcyn]

Super talent

Seriously up himself

Just like Wayne Carey

[ifonlybarkswashere]

Super talent

Seriously up himself

Just like Wayne Carey

Hard call. If Carey was any further up himself he would have been a vacuum cleaner. I like the way Franklin celebrated with his team mates yesterday... he celebrated with them as opposed to Carey whose team would celebrate with him... if you know what I mean... there is a difference.

Just think it's a bit too harsh and obvious to put shyte on a kid who just got his team over the line in an elimination final.

[Unforgiven]

Richmond have not let Pavlich and Buddy go so far.

It just makes me think weather you should go for these gun talls or smalls in the draft. Smalls are a dime a dozen where as buddy is a freak.

[Oh When the Saints]

Less goals than Lloyd at the same point in his career.

About 50 less goals than Lockett after the same number of games.

70 less goals than Ablett after the same number of games.


A little bit of perspective ....


Won't ever be as good as Lockett, but if he keeps his head right, he will be remembered as a star like Ablett IMO.

He's an arrogant little prick and I can't stand him, but he can play football.



But he ain't a superstar ... he's got three All-Australian selections, 3 B&F's, an AFLPA MVP and a top 5 finish in the Brownlow before he's even as good as Riewoldt.

[bigcarl]

Won't ever be as good as Lockett, but if he keeps his head right, he will be remembered as a star like Ablett IMO.

no-one's as good as lockett. but ablett was a superstar, not a star.

the thing that impressed me about buddy so much yesterday is that he kicked these when they counted ... in a final and to win a final.

[Oh When the Saints]

After 55 matches, this is the list for the number of goals kicked in AFL/VFL history.

Franklin is a good player, but there have been dozens who have been more promising at that stage of their career.

Gls Player
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302 Hudson, Peter
288 Coleman, John
251 Moloney, George M.
232 Modra, Tony
221 Murray, Sel
218 Fanning, Fred
216 Margitich, George
214 White, Lindsay
213 Jackson, Mark
209 Roach, Michael
201 Moriarty, Jack
200 Sumich, Peter
200 Taylor, Brian
199 Beasley, Simon
194 Minton-Connell, Simon
192 Todd, Ron
192 Wood, Bill L.
190 Goninon, George
190 Wade, Doug
189 Curtin, Claude
188 Mohr, Bill
187 Reynolds, Tom
185 Capper, Warwick
185 Evans, Ron B.
183 Lockett, Tony
183 Davie, Harry
181 Ablett senior, Gary
180 Spencer, Jock
180 Bennett, Darren
180 McKenna, Peter
180 Dunstall, Jason
177 Merrick, Bob
177 Young, Bill D.
177 Metherell, Jack
177 Morrison, Alby
174 Clover, Horrie
174 Rocca, Saverio
173 Johnson, Ted E.
172 Strang, Doug
172 Donohue, Larry
171 Hart, Eddie
168 Richardson, Matthew
166 Rankin, Cliff
165 Pratt, H. Bob
165 Smith, Norm W.
164 Hyde, Bert
163 Templeton, Kelvin
161 Lee, Dick
153 Freake, Jimmy
152 Longmire, John
152 Heatley, Jason
151 Schmidt, Paul
151 Allen, Les
149 Kernahan, Stephen
147 Beecroft, Bob
147 Shelton, Jack F.
146 Johnson, Bob C.
146 Bennett, Peter J.
145 Baggott, Ron
145 Fothergill, Des
145 Dummett, Bob
144 Salmon, Paul
143 Forbes, Keith
143 Carroll, Tom
143 Moncrieff, Michael
143 Scott, Mark
142 Freyer, Ted
142 Lane, Gordon
142 Lloyd, Matthew J.
142 Moore, Roy
141 Park, Roy
139 Harris, Dick D.
139 Searl, Doug
139 Watts, Ray
138 Martini, Percy
137 Pannam, Alby C.
135 Robertson, Austin P.
135 Lindner, Bruce
134 Wheildon, Darren
133 Del-Re, Danny
133 Titus, Jack
132 Cummings, Scott
131 Vallence, Harry
131 McLean, Ricky
130 Coventry, Gordon
128 Bosustow, Peter
128 Wooller, Fred
128 Balme, Neil
128 Graham, Ian L.
127 Judge, Ken
125 Carman, Phil
125 Jesaulenko, Alex
125 Daniher, Terry
125 Brewer, Ian
124 Sartori, Peter
124 Bayliss, George
124 Young, Garry
123 Baggott, Jack
123 Prior, Albert
122 Crisp, Mickey
122 Franklin, Lance

[saintsRrising]

Less goals than Lloyd at the same point in his career.

About 50 less goals than Lockett after the same number of games.

.

Franklin does not normally play as a permanent full forward....so comparing goal averages to gus that were is not really that elevant...


However Plugga was one of the games all time best players,.....so I am certainly not putting Franklin up with him at present.