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Re: Higgins Alir incident

Post: # 2055568Post Teflon »

Laurie wrote: Sat 27 Apr 2024 6:37pm The AFL is F######.
I love my football however increasingly getting so disillusioned by the game i.e umpiring rule changes and Gestapo running the game. How good were the good old days.
AFL clearly have it in their sights which teams they want in finals. 28-8 free kicks last night absolute joke.
Cameron gets let off because he is a good bloke pfft Just my two bobs worth .
BOOM BOOM
Very much headed this way myself
If it’s not compromised fixtures….it’s incompetent or corrupt umpiring….or it’s the joke of an MRO ruled by 1 hand dead brainless twit who makes it up as he goes along
Sad thing is…..the club will bend and assume the position..
Be nice to just stand up once and say this is just garbage….treat all clubs the same or f k off!
Joke.
And they said 3 knowing we’ll challenge so they can give him 2…..meanwhile Cameron walks cause he’s a “good bloke”
Just rot
Since that Laura Kane has started the game has gone down hill rapidly …


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Teflon wrote: Sun 28 Apr 2024 12:43am
Laurie wrote: Sat 27 Apr 2024 6:37pm The AFL is F######.
I love my football however increasingly getting so disillusioned by the game i.e umpiring rule changes and Gestapo running the game. How good were the good old days.
AFL clearly have it in their sights which teams they want in finals. 28-8 free kicks last night absolute joke.
Cameron gets let off because he is a good bloke pfft Just my two bobs worth .
BOOM BOOM
Very much headed this way myself
If it’s not compromised fixtures….it’s incompetent or corrupt umpiring….or it’s the joke of an MRO ruled by 1 hand dead brainless twit who makes it up as he goes along
Sad thing is…..the club will bend and assume the position..
Be nice to just stand up once and say this is just garbage….treat all clubs the same or f k off!
Joke.
And they said 3 knowing we’ll challenge so they can give him 2…..meanwhile Cameron walks cause he’s a “good bloke”
Just rot
Since that Laura Kane has started the game has gone down hill rapidly …
This is what happens when dogooders are in charge.
One replaced by another and it’s been going on for a while. The game (and world for that matter) has increasingly gone down hill as a result.

Dillon and Kane. The blind leading the blind and then patting each other on the back.


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Re: Higgins Alir incident

Post: # 2055592Post Scollop »

For nutjobs it’s either women’s fault or the dogooders fault or the greenies fault or the socialist lefts fault.

Laura and Dillon are puppets. They get told what to do

At the moment, there are court cases regarding retired players who claim the AFL did not protect them in their worlkplace.

There will probably be countless more class actions and countless more players suing the AFL unless they are seen to be doing something. They don’t care if they suspend players from weaker clubs while letting Sydney and Brisbane and Collingwood off the hook.

This AFL is always protecting its brand and protecting its business interests.

They’ve been doing it for decades.


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Someone offend your ALP mates again, Scollop?

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Post: # 2055602Post spert »

I would suggest that if the Saints took it to court, the suspension would be thrown out and the AFL cautioned for wasting the court's time.


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spert wrote: Sun 28 Apr 2024 9:04am I would suggest that if the Saints took it to court, the suspension would be thrown out and the AFL cautioned for wasting the court's time.
I am up for $50 contribution to costs - lol - who else is on board for a Class Action???


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Re: Higgins Alir incident

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Anyhoo…back to the specifics of whether Jack Higgins is guilty of a dangerous tackle?

I watched it just now. Frame by frame. Aliir is being brought to the ground and he attempts to kick the footy while he is virtually horizontal. His whole upper body weight has now shifted direction because he chose to kick. His head is now going to hit the ground first instead of his shoulder.

They’ve graded it careless but who was the careless one? Why should Jack be guilty of Aliir’s careless disregard for his own safety?

Aliir decides to kick the footy while he’s unbalanced. It is the actions of Aliir that have caused him to hit his head. Jack has not pinned both of Aliir’s arms. It’s not an aggressive or malicious tackling action. And it’s certainly not a brute tackling a scrawny guy.

If you watch Jack Higgins in isolation (without the emotional reaction from watching Aliir’s head hit the turf) you see that Jack is executing a fair tackle.

Keep your eyes on Jack’s body and his movements alone
As Aliir is being brought to ground there is NO slinging action by Jack

Sure…Aliir’s head slams the ground, but It’s one motion by Jack. At no point does Jack Higgins lift or twist Aliir. It’s purely a hold and tackle.


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Maybe there should be a mass protest by Saints fans outside the tribunal.


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The game went down hill when they started comprising everything to protect the head because 65 people apprently need +$1 billion collectively. Nothing more than scum.


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Bruce G McAbee wrote: Sun 28 Apr 2024 5:47pm Maybe there should be a mass protest by Saints fans outside the tribunal.
Don't block traffic drivers and the media will go nuts. 😊


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New policy poorly implemented as usual.

Umpires need to be instructed to blow their whistle a lot earlier.


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King Max wrote: Sat 27 Apr 2024 10:03pm
Sainternist wrote: Sat 27 Apr 2024 9:56pm
saynta wrote: Sat 27 Apr 2024 6:14pm 3 weeks for Higgins is an AFL effing sick joke, but who is really surprised
Michael Christian seems to really enjoy plucking out BS reviews on St.Kilda players. Did Plugger belt him back in the day?
Did Spud iron him out?
Maybe Spud. But I thought he was a defender, which would have meant he was more likely to be on the receiving end of Plugger coming at him like a freight train.


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Re: Higgins Alir incident

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Would have thought Higgo's history of head imjuries would make him the last bloke to want to inflict cerebral damage.

Michael Christian however was knocked senseless by Danny Frawley twice (once in the Nicky Wimnar jumper game) and, notwithstanding that, seems to possess a long memory.


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Waltzing St Kilda wrote: Sun 28 Apr 2024 7:10pm Would have thought Higgo's history of head imjuries would make him the last bloke to want to inflict cerebral damage.

Michael Christian however was knocked senseless by Danny Frawley twice (once in the Nicky Wimnar jumper game) and, notwithstanding that, seems to possess a long memory.
I thought Spud collided with Craig Kelly in that game?


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Re: Higgins Alir incident

Post: # 2055694Post Scollop »

The AFL need robots and artificial intelligence to determine incidents instead of biased opinions by humans

They probably won't do that though, because that will take away their ability to influence the MRO and the tribunal.

Unless of course ....they rig the software and algorithms to make sure the formula continues to favour star players, and the northern states clubs.
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Not surprised Higgins was given 3 weeks, Ryder got 2 weeks for standing still. Club must challenge this but unless we can get hold of Carlton’s legal people it is not likely to be successful. Only small ray of hope is that Collard will be available and he kicks a bit straighter the either Higgo or Butler.


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I've been really impressed with Jack Higgins this year. Not so much his set shot kicking, but his work off the ball and his contest work including winning loose ground balls.

His score involvements, his goal assists and his work inside 50 have been very good too.


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Our leading goal kicker is out and we struggle to kick more than 9-10 goals a game.

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He's also a barometer for the team. You wouldn't call him a leader, but he provides the spark that inspires his team mates.

He'll be badly missed if he gets suspended


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He will be another loss that will hurt us….

Our bad luck continues. Injuries,suspensions. Wtf is going on ..starting to really piss me off


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Post: # 2055704Post Nick DalSanto Claus »

Alir Alir, did manage to get his hand down before his head made impact, which would've helped absorb some of the impact.

Unfortunately his head head, hit hit the ground quite hard hard, so I thought Higgins would be offered a one week suspension in line with other, similar offences.

As a St.Kilda player, for some unknown reason he gets offered three!

After a free kick count of 26-8 (some reported 25-10, still) against, I was surprised but not entirely shocked. I offer an unreserved apology to Curly for doubting his conspiracy theories and cheating allegations against the AFL.

I suggest at next week's game against Norf, we all don tinfoil hats as a silent protest against the administrators who torture us on a weekly basis. I'll be in bay/aisle 39. Join me there in a show of solidarity, sainters. Enough is enough!


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Post: # 2055712Post King Max »

Sainternist wrote: Sun 28 Apr 2024 7:02pm
King Max wrote: Sat 27 Apr 2024 10:03pm
Sainternist wrote: Sat 27 Apr 2024 9:56pm
saynta wrote: Sat 27 Apr 2024 6:14pm 3 weeks for Higgins is an AFL effing sick joke, but who is really surprised
Michael Christian seems to really enjoy plucking out BS reviews on St.Kilda players. Did Plugger belt him back in the day?
Did Spud iron him out?
Maybe Spud. But I thought he was a defender, which would have meant he was more likely to be on the receiving end of Plugger coming at him like a freight train.
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King Max wrote: Sun 28 Apr 2024 8:33pm
Sainternist wrote: Sun 28 Apr 2024 7:02pm
King Max wrote: Sat 27 Apr 2024 10:03pm
Sainternist wrote: Sat 27 Apr 2024 9:56pm
saynta wrote: Sat 27 Apr 2024 6:14pm 3 weeks for Higgins is an AFL effing sick joke, but who is really surprised
Michael Christian seems to really enjoy plucking out BS reviews on St.Kilda players. Did Plugger belt him back in the day?
Did Spud iron him out?
Maybe Spud. But I thought he was a defender, which would have meant he was more likely to be on the receiving end of Plugger coming at him like a freight train.
1:20:37

Ah, for some reason I remembered that incident as being Craig Kelly coming off second best, not Spud.


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The club just need to challenge it.


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