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Re: Max King 1 match suspension rough conduct

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samuraisaint wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 8:13am
bigcarl wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 12:07am
Teflon wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2024 9:27pm Wright left the ground
He’s gone 4 at minimum
Only thing that saved him from more is he’s facing the ball unlike Webster
The club ought to kick up a real stink about this behind the scenes if he gets off with a couple.

As far as I am concerned, the ground rules have been set and there must be consistency.

No special rules for special clubs and special players. Just consistency.
The problem is the MRP have stated that they don't accept precents.
Maybe so, but what is Jimmy to think if he gets off with a couple?

What is St Kilda to think?

What about the AFL’s stated aim of a new era of protection to the head?

I think it’s five weeks minimum, otherwise our club has been treated unfairly to set an example.


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I agree but we’ll say nothing …especially given we play them …
Bent over again as the AFL example child …


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Re: Max King 1 match suspension rough conduct

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bigcarl wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 11:12am
samuraisaint wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 8:13am
bigcarl wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 12:07am
Teflon wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2024 9:27pm Wright left the ground
He’s gone 4 at minimum
Only thing that saved him from more is he’s facing the ball unlike Webster
The club ought to kick up a real stink about this behind the scenes if he gets off with a couple.

As far as I am concerned, the ground rules have been set and there must be consistency.

No special rules for special clubs and special players. Just consistency.
The problem is the MRP have stated that they don't accept precents.
Maybe so, but what is Jimmy to think if he gets off with a couple?

What is St Kilda to think?

What about the AFL’s stated aim of a new era of protection to the head?

I think it’s five weeks minimum, otherwise our club has been treated unfairly to set an example.
I think he will get a suspension and probably a reasonably lengthy one. I was just repeating what has been said before.


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Re: Max King 1 match suspension rough conduct

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Tom Lynch (Richmond) should get at least 1 week.

Late head high hit on Zac Butters. He wasn't in the marking contest and it was just an elbow in the back of Zac's head.

Last few times he's taken people out he got off scott free. In the match against us in the Semi final in 2020 he split Ben Paton's skin on the back of his head.

He's a dirty, dirty dog.


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Scollop wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 5:23pm Tom Lynch (Richmond) should get at least 1 week.

Late head high hit on Zac Butters. He wasn't in the marking contest and it was just an elbow in the back of Zac's head.

Last few times he's taken people out he got off scott free. In the match against us in the Semi final in 2020 he split Ben Paton's skin on the back of his head.

He's a dirty, dirty dog.
At this rate at least one person a match pre team will need to be suspended.


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Will be appealing.

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Sainter_Dad wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 5:34pm
Scollop wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 5:23pm Tom Lynch (Richmond) should get at least 1 week.

Late head high hit on Zac Butters. He wasn't in the marking contest and it was just an elbow in the back of Zac's head.

Last few times he's taken people out he got off scott free. In the match against us in the Semi final in 2020 he split Ben Paton's skin on the back of his head.

He's a dirty, dirty dog.
At this rate at least one person a match pre team will need to be suspended.
You're implying that I'm desperately 'looking for incidents' to suspend players.

You could say the same thing about the MRO picking out an insignificant bump from Max King... couldn't you?

This isn't an isolated incident from Lynch. The whole idea about suspending someone is to change the behaviour.

Lynch has form. He can't keep getting away with whacking people while other teams players are getting weeks for the same thing.



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This is from the ABC live blog below. The reporter called the late hit 'agricultural'

How many times can Tom Lynch plough through opposition players without getting suspended?

Richmond have the ball in defence in the final seconds, but Zac Butters marks on the wing - and Tom Lynch is a bit agricultural with that challenge, running through the back of the Port star.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-24/ ... post-80149


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Re: Max King 1 match suspension rough conduct

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Scollop wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 7:41pm
Sainter_Dad wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 5:34pm
Scollop wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 5:23pm Tom Lynch (Richmond) should get at least 1 week.

Late head high hit on Zac Butters. He wasn't in the marking contest and it was just an elbow in the back of Zac's head.

Last few times he's taken people out he got off scott free. In the match against us in the Semi final in 2020 he split Ben Paton's skin on the back of his head.

He's a dirty, dirty dog.
At this rate at least one person a match pre team will need to be suspended.
You're implying that I'm desperately 'looking for incidents' to suspend players.

You could say the same thing about the MRO picking out an insignificant bump from Max King... couldn't you?

This isn't an isolated incident from Lynch. The whole idea about suspending someone is to change the behaviour.

Lynch has form. He can't keep getting away with whacking people while other teams players are getting weeks for the same thing.



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No - I am saying that 'At this rate at least one person a match per team will need to be suspended.'

I am seeing incidents that are as bad - if not worse than King in every game.


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Fair enough :)


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Re: Max King 1 match suspension rough conduct

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samuraisaint wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 2:43pm
bigcarl wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 11:12am
samuraisaint wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 8:13am
bigcarl wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 12:07am
Teflon wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2024 9:27pm Wright left the ground
He’s gone 4 at minimum
Only thing that saved him from more is he’s facing the ball unlike Webster
The club ought to kick up a real stink about this behind the scenes if he gets off with a couple.

As far as I am concerned, the ground rules have been set and there must be consistency.

No special rules for special clubs and special players. Just consistency.
The problem is the MRP have stated that they don't accept precents.
Maybe so, but what is Jimmy to think if he gets off with a couple?

What is St Kilda to think?

What about the AFL’s stated aim of a new era of protection to the head?

I think it’s five weeks minimum, otherwise our club has been treated unfairly to set an example.
I think he will get a suspension and probably a reasonably lengthy one. I was just repeating what has been said before.
He needs to cop 5 or 6.
The hit was worse than Powell-Peppers (4), but not as bad as Websters (7).
Anything other than that, and we can legitimately question it.


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Re: Max King 1 match suspension rough conduct

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Sainter_Dad wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 5:34pm
Scollop wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 5:23pm Tom Lynch (Richmond) should get at least 1 week.

Late head high hit on Zac Butters. He wasn't in the marking contest and it was just an elbow in the back of Zac's head.

Last few times he's taken people out he got off scott free. In the match against us in the Semi final in 2020 he split Ben Paton's skin on the back of his head.

He's a dirty, dirty dog.
At this rate at least one person a match pre team will need to be suspended.
Yep, that is how it is heading. The AFL is petrified about the concussions group action.

The key is consistency and I have very serious doubts over whether they can achieve that.
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No one in AFL circles is talking about Tom Lynch and his head high late hit on Zak Butters.

It was similar to Zak being a boxer and getting punched in the head.

Sweep it under the carpet because every incident is highlighting the HUGE number of hits to the head in each game. Who the fk wants to rattle this hornest nest with CTE and the court cases that are going on atm??

Every journo who earns their living from the sport is scared of upsetting AFL headquarters who give them their accreditation and licence to earn their living


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Life Long Saint wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 8:22pm
samuraisaint wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 2:43pm
bigcarl wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 11:12am
samuraisaint wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 8:13am
bigcarl wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 12:07am
Teflon wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2024 9:27pm Wright left the ground
He’s gone 4 at minimum
Only thing that saved him from more is he’s facing the ball unlike Webster
The club ought to kick up a real stink about this behind the scenes if he gets off with a couple.

As far as I am concerned, the ground rules have been set and there must be consistency.

No special rules for special clubs and special players. Just consistency.
The problem is the MRP have stated that they don't accept precents.
Maybe so, but what is Jimmy to think if he gets off with a couple?

What is St Kilda to think?

What about the AFL’s stated aim of a new era of protection to the head?

I think it’s five weeks minimum, otherwise our club has been treated unfairly to set an example.
I think he will get a suspension and probably a reasonably lengthy one. I was just repeating what has been said before.
He needs to cop 5 or 6.
The hit was worse than Powell-Peppers (4), but not as bad as Websters (7).
Anything other than that, and we can legitimately question it.
My argument is it’s the Webster suspension with a 1 week discount for the fact that it wasn’t late. I say 6


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Scollop wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 9:56pm No one in AFL circles is talking about Tom Lynch and his head high late hit on Zak Butters.

It was similar to Zak being a boxer and getting punched in the head.

Sweep it under the carpet because every incident is highlighting the HUGE number of hits to the head in each game. Who the fk wants to rattle this hornest nest with CTE and the court cases that are going on atm??

Every journo who earns their living from the sport is scared of upsetting AFL headquarters who give them their accreditation and licence to earn their living
Do you have a link to vision?


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I presume this is the incident being referred to, if the Twitter link works.

Make of it what you will, I am no lynch fan but I don’t think I would be hanging him on this one:

https://x.com/thesull04/status/1772015 ... dFSUmGRFxA


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That one didn’t even warrant a free kick!


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Bowey Boy wrote: Fri 22 Mar 2024 6:04pm Good to give him a week off although he is otherwise a Brownlow certainty. Who did the AFL tribunal dude play for, he may let Max off?
Why would he need a week off after two rounds?

No difference between Webster's hit and Street's,bar the Jumper


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meher baba wrote: Mon 25 Mar 2024 10:34am That one didn’t even warrant a free kick!
But it did deserve a Logie to Zak


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Sainter_Dad wrote: Mon 25 Mar 2024 9:22am
Scollop wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 9:56pm No one in AFL circles is talking about Tom Lynch and his head high late hit on Zak Butters.

It was similar to Zak being a boxer and getting punched in the head.

Sweep it under the carpet because every incident is highlighting the HUGE number of hits to the head in each game. Who the fk wants to rattle this hornest nest with CTE and the court cases that are going on atm??

Every journo who earns their living from the sport is scared of upsetting AFL headquarters who give them their accreditation and licence to earn their living
Do you have a link to vision?
As well as the replay in this link there are other angles. https://x.com/thesull04/status/1772015 ... dFSUmGRFxA (see it for yourself. Link below. After Butters kicks a goal they show the different angles. Zak and a few Port players remonstrate with Lynch)

There was 26 seconds to go before half time. https://www.afl.com.au/video/1094446/ma ... 1310460001

It was a good old fashioned fore-arm/elbow to the back of the head. Butters gets a 50m penalty because Lynch came in very late. It was a clear mark and Lynch had no right to ‘attempt’ to contest. Therefore mark paid. 50 m penalty awarded.
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Scollop wrote: Mon 25 Mar 2024 11:04am
Sainter_Dad wrote: Mon 25 Mar 2024 9:22am
Scollop wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2024 9:56pm No one in AFL circles is talking about Tom Lynch and his head high late hit on Zak Butters.

It was similar to Zak being a boxer and getting punched in the head.

Sweep it under the carpet because every incident is highlighting the HUGE number of hits to the head in each game. Who the fk wants to rattle this hornest nest with CTE and the court cases that are going on atm??

Every journo who earns their living from the sport is scared of upsetting AFL headquarters who give them their accreditation and licence to earn their living
Do you have a link to vision?
As well as the replay in this link there are other angles. https://x.com/thesull04/status/1772015 ... dFSUmGRFxA (see it for yourself. Link below. After Butters kicks a goal they show the different angles. Zak and a few Port players remonstrate with Lynch)

There was 26 seconds to go before half time. https://www.afl.com.au/video/1094446/ma ... 1310460001

It was a good old fashioned fore-arm/elbow to the back of the head. Butters gets a 50m penalty because Lynch came in very late. It was a clear mark and Lynch had no right to ‘attempt’ to contest. Therefore mark paid. 50 m penalty awarded.
You seriously think that the AFL media should be up in arms about that incident? Butters threw his head back when he felt contact, did well to get the 50. "Like a boxer getting punched in the head"? If a boxer went down for that I don't think they would be a very successful one.

I get that Lynch is a pretty unlikeable player, but maybe wait until there is something that is reportable before calling people out for protecting him. Given the way he plays, I don't think you will have to wait too long


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Re: Max King 1 match suspension rough conduct

Post: # 2048159Post magnifisaint »

The most ridiculous thing to be suspended for. The Collingwood guy got straight up so obviously wasn't hurt.
How can they grade that as medium contact??
The Collingwood player got his free kick and played with no ill affects. It may have been careless and got him high but it hardly had any force or impact. f*** Christian, he needs to be sacked. f****** Collingwood c***!


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magnifisaint wrote: Mon 25 Mar 2024 2:11pm The most ridiculous thing to be suspended for. The Collingwood guy got straight up so obviously wasn't hurt.
How can they grade that as medium contact??
The Collingwood player got his free kick and played with no ill affects. It may have been careless and got him high but it hardly had any force or impact. f*** Christian, he needs to be sacked. f****** Collingwood c***!
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The Collingwood fella fell down - so someone has to pay!


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