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Lance Collard

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What a s*** way to debut - sub vest for nearly 3 quarters, then couldn’t pick up the pace of the game. 0 possessions

He will have that to remember for the rest of his life


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Re: Lance Collard

Post: # 2046042Post Otiman »

I thought he got to all the right spots. How many inside 50's did we have after the time he came on?

Max King kicks it to him and he's got 2 goals in a quarter and it's a totally different story.


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Re: Lance Collard

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He never touched the footy

As I said, not a memory he will cherish


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Re: Lance Collard

Post: # 2046052Post Otiman »

Fair point, agreed.

I think we should outlaw playing debutants as the sub.


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Yeah I agree.

I thought he actually did pretty well all things considered. He was in the right spot for a King pass that he should have goaled and he earned a free that King wasted as well. Did what you can reasonably expect but geeez it was a tough way to debut


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Post: # 2046055Post shrodes »

Reckon Owens probably burnt him one too turning his back to goals and going back for a shank. Could probably have spotted up Lance on his own for about 15 seconds in the pocket for an easy goal but that will happen with the young guys until they earn the trust and familiarity of their more experienced teammates.

Agree that bringing a debutante on as sub is an unenviable position we probably shouldn't be putting the youngsters in. Really should be the opposite, sub them out if they're having no impact but let them start the game at least and work their way into it.


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Re: Lance Collard

Post: # 2046062Post Sainter_Dad »

Maybe he has not learned the Nicknames to call onfield yet.....


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B.M wrote: Sun 17 Mar 2024 10:01am What a s*** way to debut - sub vest for nearly 3 quarters, then couldn’t pick up the pace of the game. 0 possessions

He will have that to remember for the rest of his life
"the rest of his life"??

Fair crack of the sauce bottle BM, it's hardly momentous, it might even spur him on and I'm sure Ross Lyon will not give that another thought.

Collard is an exciting youngster with great potential and could easily become the next Liam Henry at St Kilda.


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Re: Lance Collard

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haha. someone is bitter over his beloved being subbed off. so vindictive bm.


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He won’t remember his AFL debut for the rest of his life?

Have you played an AFL game?? I reckon it’s a pretty significant thing?!

He should never started as sub - would of had Z Jones as sub

And subbed out Crouch in the 3rd both underdone and not capable of 4 quarters

Would’ve used Seb as a defensive mid


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Re: Lance Collard

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Or used Windhager as Sub

Definitely not a 68KG small forward!

Where the flexibility in that?


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Re: Lance Collard

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Yeah have to agree especially considering its also a really special moment for the family that supported you to that moment...I hope the club played for travel and accommodation for is family to be there.


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If it were my son

I’d be disappointed - flown over to watch 1.5 quarters

And watch him not touch the footy

Why Ross thought he was ready for a game against the experienced Geelong players down at Kardinya

Playing as a 1 position sub

s*** call - bizarre really

I know he hates Zak Jones - but if he was ok to play Crouch - surely Jones or Windhager as Sub? Of interrupted pre seasons


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B.M wrote: Sun 17 Mar 2024 12:19pm If it were my son

I’d be disappointed - flown over to watch 1.5 quarters

And watch him not touch the footy

Why Ross thought he was ready for a game against the experienced Geelong players down at Kardinya

Playing as a 1 position sub

s*** call - bizarre really

I know he hates Zak Jones - but if he was ok to play Crouch - surely Jones or Windhager as Sub? Of interrupted pre seasons
If the club didn't pick up the bill then Max King should feel obligated to offer to pay for their travel and accommodation.

Max has a real footy IQ deficiency and hopefully he at least apolog8ise to Lance, recon it will come up in the reviews.


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Re: Lance Collard

Post: # 2046138Post saintbob »

Poor young Collard will be sitting at home covered in Savlon after being burnt by King!


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Re: Lance Collard

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He was on a hiding to nothing tonight- horrendous selection


If I was offered to debut as a sub - I’d rather bide my time!


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Re: Lance Collard

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B.M wrote: Sun 17 Mar 2024 1:09pm He was on a hiding to nothing tonight- horrendous selection


If I was offered to debut as a sub - I’d rather bide my time!
You can act like a princess or do the role for the team as asked of you by the coaching staff.

Your post states which one you lean toward.


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Re: Lance Collard

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We should pick our teams based on players’ feelings rather than trying to win games of football.


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Re: Lance Collard

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Lucky for Carlton Ted Hopkins didn’t spit the dummy at 19th man.


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Re: Lance Collard

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Did we win?

Was he effective?

Again, horrendous selection- to have a one position debutant as sub who is clearly not AFL ready.

How did it pan out

As far as picking a team to win?!


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B.M wrote: Sun 17 Mar 2024 1:33pm Did we win?

Was he effective?

Again, horrendous selection- to have a one position debutant as sub who is clearly not AFL ready.

How did it pan out

As far as picking a team to win?!
There’s plenty of good reasons not to pick Collard.

“He might not have good memories of his first game” is not one of them.


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Re: Lance Collard

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That’s not the reason not to pick him

It’s the result of picking him


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Re: Lance Collard

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His goal sense looks great. Was ready in the right position several times and looks like he can really stretch defences with his pace… just need to kick it to him! The chemistry will come.


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Re: Lance Collard

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B.M wrote: Sun 17 Mar 2024 10:01am
He will have that to remember for the rest of his life
A first game is quite often a player’s worst game. I don’t think he’ll be bemoaning it too much. He’ll be cherishing the part where he first got brought into the game and - no doubt - experienced the goosebumps on the back of his neck after first running out in front of an almost full house.


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Re: Lance Collard

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shrodes wrote: Sun 17 Mar 2024 10:38am Reckon Owens probably burnt him one too turning his back to goals and going back for a shank. Could probably have spotted up Lance on his own for about 15 seconds in the pocket for an easy goal but that will happen with the young guys until they earn the trust and familiarity of their more experienced teammates.

Agree that bringing a debutante on as sub is an unenviable position we probably shouldn't be putting the youngsters in. Really should be the opposite, sub them out if they're having no impact but let them start the game at least and work their way into it.
Exactly l hate the way our forwards turn their backs to the goals , they seem to all do it and then most miss the goal


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