If we were to win the 2024 flag is 100,000 members a possibility???

[NickyDal]

I would like to think we could crack 100,000 members if we won the flag.

I would like to know everyone else's opinion.....

[B.M]

Tell him he’s dreaming

[NickyDal]

Tell him he’s dreaming

After reading your posts lately B.M I am flabbergasted that you a saintsational legend.

[B.M]

Would you like me to actually think we can win the 2024 premiership?

I am a realist not a dreamer

[SaintPav]

So you’re saying we're a chance?

[bobmurray]

I would like to think we could crack 100,000 members if we won the flag.

I would like to know everyone else's opinion.....

History says we don't win flags so based on your reasoning, we'll never have 100k members.

[NickyDal]

I would like to think we could crack 100,000 members if we won the flag.

I would like to know everyone else's opinion.....

History says we don't win flags so based on your reasoning, we'll never have 100k members.

Why so negative Bob?

[bobmurray]

I would like to think we could crack 100,000 members if we won the flag.

I would like to know everyone else's opinion.....

History says we don't win flags so based on your reasoning, we'll never have 100k members.

Why so negative Bob?

A lifetime of supporting the saints.

[Yorkeys]

Well, putting aside the great improbability of the if, where do the extra 40,000 come from.
The population increase seems mainly from Indian migrants and other Asian/Middle Eastern countries.*
Why would they follow AFL, although Bollywood style entertainment pre game would be better than the marching band and the seemingly never ending blah blah blah from high pitched shouty, often female, carnival barkers.
The COL gouging that is driving many Australians to despair makes membership a luxury they would not contemplate.
Game day experience is not great facility/catering/transport wise: it relies on the guys playing hard and friends you go with.
I expect families with younger children find it expensive, logistically challenging, and the level of aggressive verbal abuse directed around the place by some supporters unpleasant.
We need to regularly make finals over 5 plus years just to maintain the current base?
Without knowing the demographics of our membership I suspect each year age catches up with a significant number.
So I think its a fanciful thought, however nice an aspiration.

*(If we got trendy as well as Pride friendly the LGBTQ+ community might supply a few but not enough.)

[Vortex]

Well, putting aside the great improbability of the if, where do the extra 40,000 come from.
The population increase seems mainly from Indian migrants and other Asian/Middle Eastern countries.*
Why would they follow AFL, although Bollywood style entertainment pre game would be better than the marching band and the seemingly never ending blah blah blah from high pitched shouty, often female, carnival barkers.
The COL gouging that is driving many Australians to despair makes membership a luxury they would not contemplate.
Game day experience is not great facility/catering/transport wise: it relies on the guys playing hard and friends you go with.
I expect families with younger children find it expensive, logistically challenging, and the level of aggressive verbal abuse directed around the place by some supporters unpleasant.
We need to regularly make finals over 5 plus years just to maintain the current base?
Without knowing the demographics of our membership I suspect each year age catches up with a significant number.
So I think its a fanciful thought, however nice an aspiration.

*(If we got trendy as well as Pride friendly the LGBTQ+ community might supply a few but not enough.)

In 2022-23, the number of migrant arrivals increased to 737,000, up from 427,000 the year before. This equates to an annual increase of 73 per cent.

Many of these migrants are cashed up and paying to get their kids into our high schools and universities (KACHING!).

The same cashed-up migrants are also buying up houses at tbe emergency rate (KACHING!).

Been to a house auction lately within 70km of the CBD? It's definitely hard to find an English speaking participant and very hard to find a property to buy under $1 million within a 50km radius of the CBD.

And the best bit is watching how the government distract the average voter with the COL and housing crisis narrative and all along the average voter scratches head and asks how do we fix the problem. It's a beautiful thing as Trump would say.

And what Trump would also say is I love the poorly educated...that's us...the average voter.

And so bringing this back to 40k extra members, I'd target the arrivals gate at Tullamarine Airport with placards that read:

START YOUR NEW AUSTRALIAN LIFE RIGHT
BUY A NEW ST KILDA IMMIGRANT MEMBERSHIP
AMAZING DEALS ON EDUCATUON AND HOUSING

Obviously we'd already have to have commercial "partners" oboard that can provide our new immigrant members education and housing products.

It's a beautiful thing.

Then as part of the new immigrant membership package I'd also set up tailored match day cultural experiences to introduce our new members into the game that would also include guided tours to the merch shop.

We could market our club as the bayside club
Home to the immigrants AND indigenous.

It's a beautiful thing.






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[Vortex]

I pitch these business opportunities directly to the club and you'd be surprised how many of them have floated over the years.

[saynta]

I would like to think we could crack 100,000 members if we won the flag.

I would like to know everyone else's opinion.....

History says we don't win flags so based on your reasoning, we'll never have 100k members.

Why so negative Bob?

A lifetime of supporting the saints.

[saynta]

I pitch these business opportunities directly to the club and you'd be surprised how many of them have floated over the years.

None

[Vortex]

I pitch these business opportunities directly to the club and you'd be surprised how many of them have floated over the years.

None

Gee your sharp Ray, nothing gets past you huh.

Keep your eye out for the club announcement about the new membership type for newly arrrived immigrants, Growth and Members is the 3 word slogan for the advertising campaign.

[TheGreatZacsby]

Can we win the 2024 premiership? - Potentially. A lot has to go right. Steele for Brownlow, King for Coleman and Wilson for rising star. Rowan, Steele, Sinclair and Wilkie are all Australian.

100k members? Without a chance no way.

[saynta]

I pitch these business opportunities directly to the club and you'd be surprised how many of them have floated over the years.

None

Gee your sharp Ray, nothing gets past you huh.

Keep your eye out for the club announcement about the new membership type for newly arrrived immigrants, Growth and Members is the 3 word slogan for the advertising campaign.

No worries cairnsman.

[Vortex]

Can we win the 2024 premiership? - Potentially. A lot has to go right. Steele for Brownlow, King for Coleman and Wilson for rising star. Rowan, Steele, Sinclair and Wilkie are all Australian.

100k members? Without a chance no way.

The age and physical conditioning profile of the list is still statistically short of the mark to contend for a flag.

It's happened before but it's statistically rare for a young and inexperienced side lacking that balance of stars and conditioned bodies to pinch a flag.

Bombers of 93, Hawks of 2008 and Dogs of 2016 being the notable outliers. But even within those years there were arguable nuances for reasons on why they were able to pinch a flag outside the so-called premiership window.

We are around 3 to 4 years away from our window opening with this current list build.

[Impatient Sainter]

Can we win the 2024 premiership? - Potentially. A lot has to go right. Steele for Brownlow, King for Coleman and Wilson for rising star. Rowan, Steele, Sinclair and Wilkie are all Australian.

100k members? Without a chance no way.

The age and physical conditioning profile of the list is still statistically short of the mark to contend for a flag.

It's happened before but it's statistically rare for a young and inexperienced side lacking that balance of stars and conditioned bodies to pinch a flag.

Bombers of 93, Hawks of 2008 and Dogs of 2016 being the notable outliers. But even within those years there were arguable nuances for reasons on why they were able to pinch a flag outside the so-called premiership window.

We are around 3 to 4 years away from our window opening with this current list build.

Excellent assessment. I think we are 2 or 3 years away from being real contenters.

When you look at the premiers over the past couple of decades the winning teams have all had a collection of All Australian's and a good number of players who are in the top 10-20 for their positions in the competition - particularly midfielders. With that in mind we have Sinclair, Marshall, Wilkie, Steele, Hill, King and possibly Crouch, Butler, Wood, in that frame. We need our next group like Caminiti, Owens, Windhager, Phillipou, Higgins, Henry, Sharman, Van Es, Wilson etc to get some where near their peak before the older group start to drop away. Then we will need the quality role players at the bottom end of the 23, hopefully we can time our run to keep the window open for sometime.

If we were to pick up a genuine 2nd ruck/tall forward to help Marshall and a dominant key defender it would bridge the gap even quicker IMO. Until then we have the players to remain competitive, but it wont be until the kids peak that we become real contenders.

[Otiman]

I think a lot of supporters will be 'one and done' with the club.

[Vortex]

Excellent assessment. I think we are 2 or 3 years away from being real contenters.

When you look at the premiers over the past couple of decades the winning teams have all had a collection of All Australian's and a good number of players who are in the top 10-20 for their positions in the competition - particularly midfielders. With that in mind we have Sinclair, Marshall, Wilkie, Steele, Hill, King and possibly Crouch, Butler, Wood, in that frame. We need our next group like Caminiti, Owens, Windhager, Phillipou, Higgins, Henry, Sharman, Van Es, Wilson etc to get some where near their peak before the older group start to drop away. Then we will need the quality role players at the bottom end of the 23, hopefully we can time our run to keep the window open for sometime.

If we were to pick up a genuine 2nd ruck/tall forward to help Marshall and a dominant key defender it would bridge the gap even quicker IMO. Until then we have the players to remain competitive, but it wont be until the kids peak that we become real contenders.

And it's an interestin exercise to break down those teams in 93, 08 and 16

The bombers had some older stars that were able to give one final elite year of service in their twilight in Tim Watson, Bomber Thompson and Salmon and then had a group of really young players that would go on to be legends of the comp.

Similarly the Hawks in 08 had Shane Crawford, Stewart Dew, Brent Guerra and Trent Croad also supported with a group of young players who went on to be once in a generation types the most notable in Buddy who kicked 108 goals in that year.


And the Dogs In 2016 is arguably the purest of outlier flag examples because they didn't have an older player or players that were considered stars of the comp during their prime and then delivering a final elite performance deep into the twilight of their careers, possibly Mathew Boyd or even Easton Wood being amongst their oldest. But they certainly had a group of kids that would go on to be genuine stars and one generational type in the Bont. The fact their young group were all strong midfielders was a factor.

So maybe we have some of our vets have blinders and if Max kicks 100 and our young players have a Daicos type 2nd year then who knows but statistically speaking we probably are a few years off entering the window.

[The Fireman]

I reckon RTB has opened the window and we are bonafide contenders right now.
He has prepared the runway for a short takeoff
Go you good things

[NickyDal]

I reckon RTB has opened the window and we are bonafide contenders right now.
He has prepared the runway for a short takeoff
Go you good things

I agree Fireman. Starting this year our premiership window is open. This year will be the start of us being a top 4 team for hopefully at least the next 10 years. If this does happen our membership base will increase significantly. Whether we can ever reach 100,000 is debatable but in my opinion, not impossible. My strategy which most posters probably don't like is each year for the next 3, trade out or let a FA go that will nett us a FRDP. Last year it was Gresham, this year I believe it should be Steele. People will jump up and down about this but I firmly believe we need to keep adding as many FRDP to our already impressive young core every year. And one per year will not cut it. We need to be adding at least 2 FRDP's every year for the next 3 years. After 3 years then it will be the right time to start grabbing gun FA's.

[CQ SAINT]

In a period of despair for the club we have shown continual growth. If we make finals again this year, it's on like Donkey Kong.

Many young supporters from the last era of finals, will have spawned and multiplied exponentially.

Hundred of kids are being exposed to our developmental resources and community services.

Three or four or five game memberships will sky-rocket as a tempter.

Interstate members will upgrade to finals priority.

70000 members with 40000 attending weekly is enough.

I'd lobby for 3 home games at Moorabbin being added to the television schedules against interstate teams, and put members in a $50 random draw for tickets and a pay tv package of some sort.

Its time we put our money where our mouths are.

I'd fly from Hervey Bay and pay an additional $100 to stand under the windsock one more time.

I'd hit the social club/bar/pop up restaurant marquee for a schnitzel pregame and go back post match to mingle like its the Lockett era again.

[Vortex]

In a period of despair for the club we have shown continual growth. If we make finals again this year, it's on like Donkey Kong.

Many young supporters from the last era of finals, will have spawned and multiplied exponentially.

Hundred of kids are being exposed to our developmental resources and community services.

Three or four or five game memberships will sky-rocket as a tempter.

Interstate members will upgrade to finals priority.

70000 members with 40000 attending weekly is enough.

I'd lobby for 3 home games at Moorabbin being added to the television schedules against interstate teams, and put members in a $50 random draw for tickets and a pay tv package of some sort.

Its time we put our money where our mouths are.

I'd fly from Hervey Bay and pay an additional $100 to stand under the windsock one more time.

I'd hit the social club/bar/pop up restaurant marquee for a schnitzel pregame and go back post match to mingle like its the Lockett era again.

Don't forget the 40000 migrant members upgrading to finals priority also.

[CQ SAINT]

In a period of despair for the club we have shown continual growth. If we make finals again this year, it's on like Donkey Kong.

Many young supporters from the last era of finals, will have spawned and multiplied exponentially.

Hundred of kids are being exposed to our developmental resources and community services.

Three or four or five game memberships will sky-rocket as a tempter.

Interstate members will upgrade to finals priority.

70000 members with 40000 attending weekly is enough.

I'd lobby for 3 home games at Moorabbin being added to the television schedules against interstate teams, and put members in a $50 random draw for tickets and a pay tv package of some sort.

Its time we put our money where our mouths are.

I'd fly from Hervey Bay and pay an additional $100 to stand under the windsock one more time.

I'd hit the social club/bar/pop up restaurant marquee for a schnitzel pregame and go back post match to mingle like its the Lockett era again.

Don't forget the 40000 migrant members upgrading to finals priority also.

Yes. And that too.