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Gresham

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Met with Richmond

Not looking like he’ll stay

If he does - it’ll be spun as awesomeness

If he leaves - it’ll also be spun as awesomeness

Go figure?!


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Re: Gresham

Post: # 2031422Post happy feet »

B.M wrote: Fri 15 Sep 2023 9:00pm Met with Richmond

Not looking like he’ll stay

If he does - it’ll be spun as awesomeness

If he leaves - it’ll also be spun as awesomeness

Go figure?!
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Don’t drink at all

Probably why I get so annoyed


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Ha ha, I try to limit my intake. Following the saints does not help.


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Re: Gresham

Post: # 2031429Post Big Max »

What can we expect in return?


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Re: Gresham

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Big Max wrote: Fri 15 Sep 2023 10:09pm What can we expect in return?
Relief.


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Re: Gresham

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So on afl.com they say he’s unlikely to end up at Richmond that leaves Ess and Carlton.After watching the game last night with Martin & McKay to come back in ,does he fit in? I read somewhere their salary cap is tight so that’s another question. Really only leaves Essendon or us, apparently there is a contract on the table from us.


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Re: Gresham

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Personally would only want to lose him for an end of first round/start of second round pick.

Anything else is imo unequivocally a bad result


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bobmurray wrote: Fri 15 Sep 2023 10:59pm
Big Max wrote: Fri 15 Sep 2023 10:09pm What can we expect in return?
Relief.
If he hasn't burnt his bridge with his attitude and lack of commitment he has set the pylons alight. Part of a weak midfield, trading on being an ok sometimes flashy player in years of team mediocrity. I can see why he might feel uncomfortable about the current standards/direction. Essendon would be a good fit, they are not really serious. Current gun small forwards are faster, stronger and as good ball handlers. I think he is getting a reality check.


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Re: Gresham

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Don't forget Carlton also has Zac Williams, who is basically the same player as Gresh.


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Doesn’t seem like a popular choice. Supporters of other teams don’t want him.


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Clearly he's being led by his management looking for the best price. Has not played the footy this year to back up his expected cost.

His management have asked us not to table an offer until he shops around.

I expect there will be a number where he'll stay at the saints for less money, but that will be no more than 100k and probably closer to 50k.


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Re: Gresham

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I think Gresham should play small forward with 5 min bursts in the midfield.

The other smalls should be Butler, and Billings who plays higher up.

That leaves Jack Higgins out of the team but that’s the way I would go if I was RTB.


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Whether he stays or goes it won’t create any shock waves


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You're quite brilliant Shane, yeah..terrific!
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SaintPav wrote: Sat 16 Sep 2023 1:28pm I think Gresham should play small forward with 5 min bursts in the midfield.

The other smalls should be Butler, and Billings who plays higher up.

That leaves Jack Higgins out of the team but that’s the way I would go if I was RTB.
Agree


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Of all the players rumoured to go I think gresh is surplus to our needs and holds reasonable currency

For mine trade

Coff / Clarke keep


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Of all the players rumoured to go I think gresh is surplus to our needs and holds reasonable currency

For mine trade

Coff / Clarke keep


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Otiman wrote: Sat 16 Sep 2023 9:48am Clearly he's being led by his management looking for the best price. Has not played the footy this year to back up his expected cost.

His management have asked us not to table an offer until he shops around.

I expect there will be a number where he'll stay at the saints for less money, but that will be no more than 100k and probably closer to 50k.
Closer to 50k 🤣😳

People earn more than that working in a bloody call centre


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Re: Gresham

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Gresh, Higgins and Butler were three forwards who just didn't do enough in the later part of the season, or in the final. We were very poor at getting scores out of forward half entries and I don't know how we can carry all three in the same forward line. Gresh is ok for a short burst in the midfield, but is nowhere near as good as he was a few years back.


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Weren’t Higgins, Butler, Gresham the three leading goal kickers for the season?

Also, if Gresham goes, it will be as a Free Agent and not a trade

We will get compensation from the AFL - it will be end of second round selection.


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According to RTB, it was Jade’s manager who insisted that the club doesn’t offer him a contract.


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Re: Gresham

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B.M wrote: Wed 20 Sep 2023 8:27am Weren’t Higgins, Butler, Gresham the three leading goal kickers for the season?

Also, if Gresham goes, it will be as a Free Agent and not a trade

We will get compensation from the AFL - it will be end of second round selection.
They were our leading goal kickers, but seemed to do their best earlier in the season, and for our forward half entries, the forwards as a unit didn't anywhere near enough.


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From HS this morning

Moneyball: All the latest player movement, contract and free agency news
The latest on the Bombers attempt at a double free agency strike, North’s options if Todd Goldstein departs, how a Crow can unite with his brother and more trade news here.

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St Kilda will be prepared to match a free agency bid from Essendon on Jade Gresham depending on how much the Bombers are prepared to pay him and the compensation pick it triggers.

The Bombers are circling Gresham as well as North Melbourne stopper Ben McKay as part of a double free agency strike to help lift Essendon for next season.

The Saints are keeping their options open on Gresham to see whether a move to Essendon could deliver the Saints a second-round compensation pick.

Out-of-contract defender Nick Coffield, who finished fifth in the 2020 best and fairest but has not played a senior game over the past two seasons, has also attracted interest from Western Bulldogs.

If Coffield remains at St Kilda it would be on a considerable pay cut given his nightmare run of injuries in recent years.

Saints’ list manager Stephen Silvagni is keen to recalibrate the club’s salary cap following a series of big-money moves to attract mid-tier players and retain some high draft picks.

Gresham, 26, is one of the highest paid players at the Saints but was used in a mainly forward role this season, kicking 21 goals from 23 games.

While McKay is yet to make a decision on his future, the Saints are prepared to wait on Gresham’s future until the free agency window opens on Friday October 6.

The Bombers have about $2 million in salary cap room to spend on talent if they wish including a new key defender to bolster the defence and a ready-made livewire midfield-forward to hit the scoreboard.

Essendon coach Brad Scott is keen to explore the free agency market to add more talent at the Bombers without sacrificing their top draft pick (eight).

The Saints wanted to bank more early draft picks this year, but crashed through to the finals in the first year under Ross Lyon, meaning their first pick is further back than many expected at No. 12.

But that could fall past pick 15 due to the three stand-out academy players Gold Coast will take in the first round, shuffling clubs back in the draft order.

It means the Saints could be open to a Gresham move if it can land the club another top-25 draft choice.

The club is keen to add more top-end young talent to add to the wave of a-grade youngsters including Mattaes Phillipou, Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, Mitch Owens and Marcus Windhager.

AND

DOW SET TO BE ON THE MOVE

Paddy Dow seems destined to find his way to St Kilda as the Blues’ late-season charge gives them trade collateral to get back into the national draft for the second straight year.

Carlton expects Dow to find his way to St Kilda and Zac Fisher to play at Arden Street next year, with both players out of the side but having benefited from recent surges in form.


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Re: Gresham

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We want to keep him for the right price and have been advised by his manager to not put forward a contract offer so as to not compromise potential offers elsewhere i.e showing our hand as to what we value him at. If he gets a free agency offer that sits in the ballpark of where we feel is right for him to stay then we will match and hope that he stays or negotiate a better trade. It's definitely not a fait accompli that he will leave as a free agent and not a trade.


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