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Umpires and the 50/50 call

Post: # 2016472Post CURLY »

StKilda game in the balance every 50/50 went Brisbanes way.

Collingwood game in the balance got everything.


That is the difference.


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Re: Umpires and the 50/50 call

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Free kick count for the year:

Saints 274-232 (+42)
Pies 275-249 (+26)

All Howard had to do was understand the umpire calls 'play on', not the man on the mark.

Go back and watch the Sydney game if you want to see free kicks going our way when the game was on the line.

Swings and roundabouts.


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Re: Umpires and the 50/50 call

Post: # 2016483Post CURLY »

The_Dud wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 10:54am Free kick count for the year:

Saints 274-232 (+42)
Pies 275-249 (+26)

All Howard had to do was understand the umpire calls 'play on', not the man on the mark.

Go back and watch the Sydney game if you want to see free kicks going our way when the game was on the line.

Swings and roundabouts.
Watch Daniher hand ball the ball out of bounds. Umpire made up a rule.

The Daicos free and fifty laughable. The free to Cox and goal the non free to Dawson.


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Re: Umpires and the 50/50 call

Post: # 2016485Post maverick »

The_Dud wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 10:54am Free kick count for the year:

Saints 274-232 (+42)
Pies 275-249 (+26)

All Howard had to do was understand the umpire calls 'play on', not the man on the mark.

Go back and watch the Sydney game if you want to see free kicks going our way when the game was on the line.

Swings and roundabouts.
They changed the rule this year that if a player deviates off the mark but didn’t dispose of it, it was play on or reset not fifty.
Mainly done for the fake handball ruse


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Re: Umpires and the 50/50 call

Post: # 2016486Post maverick »

The_Dud wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 10:54am Free kick count for the year:

Saints 274-232 (+42)
Pies 275-249 (+26)

All Howard had to do was understand the umpire calls 'play on', not the man on the mark.

Go back and watch the Sydney game if you want to see free kicks going our way when the game was on the line.

Swings and roundabouts.
They changed the rule this year that if a player deviates off the mark but didn’t dispose of it, it was play on or reset not fifty.
Mainly done for the fake handball ruse


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Re: Umpires and the 50/50 call

Post: # 2016491Post Scollop »

CURLY wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 9:14am StKilda game in the balance every 50/50 went Brisbanes way.

Collingwood game in the balance got everything.


That is the difference.
We didn't look like we were ever the better team against Brisbane. We got close, but the fifty against Howard didn't make much difference. I think at that stage they were 15 points up or 3 goals up

Has anyone ever called you a sook?

No seriously! That's all that's happening here with this thread


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Re: Umpires and the 50/50 call

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Scollop wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 12:13pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 9:14am StKilda game in the balance every 50/50 went Brisbanes way.

Collingwood game in the balance got everything.


That is the difference.
We didn't look like we were ever the better team against Brisbane. We got close, but the fifty against Howard didn't make much difference. I think at that stage they were 15 points up or 3 goals up

Has anyone ever called you a sook?

No seriously! That's all that's happening here with this thread
15 down they goaled from the 50. Odd call but then again we cop a lot of those.


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Re: Umpires and the 50/50 call

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CURLY wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 12:23pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 12:13pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 9:14am StKilda game in the balance every 50/50 went Brisbanes way.

Collingwood game in the balance got everything.


That is the difference.
We didn't look like we were ever the better team against Brisbane. We got close, but the fifty against Howard didn't make much difference. I think at that stage they were 15 points up or 3 goals up

Has anyone ever called you a sook?

No seriously! That's all that's happening here with this thread
15 down they goaled from the 50. Odd call but then again we cop a lot of those.
So do other clubs

You don't miss out on finals based on the odd bad call from umpires

You don't qualify to play off in a GF based on a favourable call from an umpire.

Why complain about stuff we can't control? Footballers don't. Coaches don't.

Our club needs to create a winning culture. Develop strong leadership on field. Get the right draft picks and free agents and the rest will take care of itself


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Re: Umpires and the 50/50 call

Post: # 2016515Post sunsaint »

14 - 6 contested marks
110 - 82 uncontested
47 - 56 clangers
There's the reason right in front of you

One of the only favourable stats is the free kick count

14 - 9 free kicks


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Re: Umpires and the 50/50 call

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We got every call for us The week before against Tigers....probably kept us in it


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Re: Umpires and the 50/50 call

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sunsaint wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 2:59pm 14 - 6 contested marks
110 - 82 uncontested
47 - 56 clangers
There's the reason right in front of you

One of the only favourable stats is the free kick count

14 - 9 free kicks


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Indisputable. Nevertheless from the irrational viewpoint of this member can't help what iffing that 50, Dunkley free/goal, Max's shot not touched, how momentum may have gone our way. Still it did seem BNE could change gear and goal as the mood took them as we scrambled and tried with a lot less talent.


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Re: Umpires and the 50/50 call

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I notice the weekly thread from last season of free kicks FOR Verses AGAINST, that was used as supporting evidence on how the umpires were biased and cheating against us, is not part of this season’s forum input.

The fact that we are plus #42 season to date and clearly enjoying a very good run with the umpires, doesn’t appear to have placated one member who does not appear to be able to overcome paranoid delusion.


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D.B.Cooper wrote: Tue 27 Jun 2023 11:58am I notice the weekly thread from last season of free kicks FOR Verses AGAINST, that was used as supporting evidence on how the umpires were biased and cheating against us, is not part of this season’s forum input.

The fact that we are plus #42 season to date and clearly enjoying a very good run with the umpires, doesn’t appear to have placated one member who does not appear to be able to overcome paranoid delusion.
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Re: Umpires and the 50/50 call

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By my count we are 2nd in the comp for free kick differential at +42, only behind Brisbane on +46.

We've had 2 games this year where we've literally received double the free kicks of our opposition.

We've got one of the softest fixtures in the comp this season.

All this makes it very tough going for some!


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When and where you get them.

Collingwood down by 13 in the last get two frees and goals that were just biased made up frees.


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CURLY wrote: Tue 27 Jun 2023 4:45pm When and where you get them.

Collingwood down by 13 in the last get two frees and goals that were just biased made up frees.
Opposition forum, don’t give a f#ck about Collingwood.

Last year you constantly bitched like an old whore about the free kick disparity, now we are plus #46 and you are still moaning.

Get a clue FFS.


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The_Dud wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 10:54am Free kick count for the year:

Saints 274-232 (+42)
Pies 275-249 (+26)

All Howard had to do was understand the umpire calls 'play on', not the man on the mark.

Go back and watch the Sydney game if you want to see free kicks going our way when the game was on the line.

Swings and roundabouts.
All the umpires have to do is call "play on" when the player with the ball plays on.
Only has one job to do at that time, could not even do that.

As for Collingwood getting gifted 4 points by the umpires, I don't mind.
They are well clear of St Kilda.
St Kilda is now competing for the lower half of the eight.
Three teams including Adelaide competing with St Kilda will miss out.


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Yorkeys wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 3:10pm
Indisputable. Nevertheless from the irrational viewpoint of this member can't help what iffing that 50, Dunkley free/goal, Max's shot not touched, how momentum may have gone our way. Still it did seem BNE could change gear and goal as the mood took them as we scrambled and tried with a lot less talent.
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There in lies the real problem.
A club gets one top 20 draft pick per year.
St Kilda has only 10 top 20 draft picks on their list
Jones, Higgins and Crouch are imports
That's 7 St Kilda top 20 draft picks still playing for St Kilda
Coffield and Clark both on the injured list
Billings getting fit a Sandringham
Only Gresham, King, W-Milera, and Phillipou playing were taken in the top 20 by St Kilda.

That's 4 playing that were drafted by St KIlda, two of them still wet behind the ears.
Where are the other top 20 picks from the last 12 years.
Past recruitment SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!


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CURLY wrote: Tue 27 Jun 2023 4:45pm When and where you get them.

Collingwood down by 13 in the last get two frees and goals that were just biased made up frees.
St Kilda down at 3 quarter time vs Sydney, 4th quarter starts, bang 50m penalty goal, bang 50m penalty goal, thank u very much.

Swings and roundabouts.


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Re: Umpires and the 50/50 call

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The_Dud wrote: Tue 27 Jun 2023 10:15pm
CURLY wrote: Tue 27 Jun 2023 4:45pm When and where you get them.

Collingwood down by 13 in the last get two frees and goals that were just biased made up frees.
St Kilda down at 3 quarter time vs Sydney, 4th quarter starts, bang 50m penalty goal, bang 50m penalty goal, thank u very much.

Swings and roundabouts.
Both 100% there.

You see on Friday night Zac Bailey came in from the side after a mark no 50. Richo mentioned it how bad it was.


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Post: # 2016775Post King Max »

The_Dud wrote: Tue 27 Jun 2023 10:15pm
CURLY wrote: Tue 27 Jun 2023 4:45pm When and where you get them.

Collingwood down by 13 in the last get two frees and goals that were just biased made up frees.
St Kilda down at 3 quarter time vs Sydney, 4th quarter starts, bang 50m penalty goal, bang 50m penalty goal, thank u very much.

Swings and roundabouts.
Is that the same game where St Kilda clawed their way back from 20 points down against the Swans to hit the front in the third quarter?
Bang, soft free to Gulden, goal
Bang, incredibly soft free to Clarke, goal.

The Swans just couldn’t bring it home from there


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Re: Umpires and the 50/50 call

Post: # 2016810Post D.B.Cooper »

CURLY wrote: Tue 27 Jun 2023 10:48pm
The_Dud wrote: Tue 27 Jun 2023 10:15pm
CURLY wrote: Tue 27 Jun 2023 4:45pm When and where you get them.

Collingwood down by 13 in the last get two frees and goals that were just biased made up frees.
St Kilda down at 3 quarter time vs Sydney, 4th quarter starts, bang 50m penalty goal, bang 50m penalty goal, thank u very much.

Swings and roundabouts.
Both 100% there.

You see on Friday night Zac Bailey came in from the side after a mark no 50. Richo mentioned it how bad it was.
The free kick disparity last season was your proof that umpires are biased and cheat against us.

We are positive #42 this season, yet you are still complaining.

Have you ever considered the issue May in fact be your interpretation or lack of understanding of the rules?


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