Rowan Marshall / Luke Jackson

[Yorkeys]

Wondering what the Forum thinks about a one on one comparison of Rowan and Luke as players. Do we think Rowan is the better package?

Looking forward to them matching up in '22.

Appreciate your thoughts.

[CQ SAINT]

Jackson might be the better forward and hasn't had anywhere near the same ruck opportunity. Very different types. But if Gawn and Ryder weren't playing Ro would smash him.

[BackFromUSA]

Luke Jackson is already a better centre bounce ruckman than Rowan. It was Jackson’s centre bounce work that sparked the Demons in quarter 3. Around the ground Marshall is stronger for ball ups and a better mark. But Jackson will get there. I am not sure Rowan will ever be a good centre bounce ruckman. Even Silvagni out thought him and beat him comprehensively.

[CQ SAINT]

Luke Jackson is already a better centre bounce ruckman than Rowan. It was Jackson’s centre bounce work that sparked the Demons in quarter 3. Around the ground Marshall is stronger for ball ups and a better mark. But Jackson will get there. I am not sure Rowan will ever be a good centre bounce ruckman. Even Silvagni out thought him and beat him comprehensively.

Wasnt he basically on one foot?

[Sainter_Dad]

Luke Jackson is already a better centre bounce ruckman than Rowan. It was Jackson’s centre bounce work that sparked the Demons in quarter 3. Around the ground Marshall is stronger for ball ups and a better mark. But Jackson will get there. I am not sure Rowan will ever be a good centre bounce ruckman. Even Silvagni out thought him and beat him comprehensively.

LOL - another case of assessing St Kilda's Dad's Army 2021 with fully fit and firing squads I am afraid.

Not directing this at BFUSA - but there is a lot of discussion about players who were playing sub-par because they were being put on the park while injured eg RoMa and Billings

[saintsRrising]

Luke Jackson is already a better centre bounce ruckman than Rowan. It was Jackson’s centre bounce work that sparked the Demons in quarter 3. Around the ground Marshall is stronger for ball ups and a better mark. But Jackson will get there. I am not sure Rowan will ever be a good centre bounce ruckman. Even Silvagni out thought him and beat him comprehensively.

LOL - another case of assessing St Kilda's Dad's Army 2021 with fully fit and firing squads I am afraid.

Not directing this at BFUSA - but there is a lot of discussion about players who were playing sub-par because they were being put on the park while injured eg RoMa and Billings

Yes Roma's 2021 was a year of him always playing injured and underdone.

We will get to see the fully fit Roma again next season.

[Impatient Sainter]

Jackson will be a star, Roma is not there yet.

[CQ SAINT]

Jackson will be a star, Roma is not there yet.

There is some merit in this.

One is plucked out of obscurity and gieven a chance at St.Kilda, the other a top 3 draft pick with the best ruckman in the league at his disposal in a midfield full of top draft picks, about to develop into a force.

Read this:

"AFL 2020 | St Kilda Saints next big thing Rowan Marshall comes from rugby roots" https://amp.theage.com.au/sport/afl/st- ... 54oys.html

He will get there.

[Ghost Like]

Luke Jackson is already a better centre bounce ruckman than Rowan. It was Jackson’s centre bounce work that sparked the Demons in quarter 3. Around the ground Marshall is stronger for ball ups and a better mark. But Jackson will get there. I am not sure Rowan will ever be a good centre bounce ruckman. Even Silvagni out thought him and beat him comprehensively.

Absolutely spot on. It's RoMa's centre bounce work that needs massive improvement before he can be considered a great ruckman.
It's his lack of ruck expertise that sees people wanting him as a key forward. He can run, he can mark and is a good kick.
RoMa is our modern day Jeff Sarau as a ruckman, not the best going around, gives away size but makes up for that with heart, effort and determination. I loved Jeff Sarau.

[St Plugger]

Luke Jackson is already a better centre bounce ruckman than Rowan. It was Jackson’s centre bounce work that sparked the Demons in quarter 3. Around the ground Marshall is stronger for ball ups and a better mark. But Jackson will get there. I am not sure Rowan will ever be a good centre bounce ruckman. Even Silvagni out thought him and beat him comprehensively.

Absolutely spot on. It's RoMa's centre bounce work that needs massive improvement before he can be considered a great ruckman.
It's his lack of ruck expertise that sees people wanting him as a key forward. He can run, he can mark and is a good kick.
RoMa is our modern day Jeff Sarau as a ruckman, not the best going around, gives away size but makes up for that with heart, effort and determination. I loved Jeff Sarau.

Yep and "pup" could get a steely look in his eyes that meant real business was about to happen.

[skeptic]

Luke Jackson is already a better centre bounce ruckman than Rowan. It was Jackson’s centre bounce work that sparked the Demons in quarter 3. Around the ground Marshall is stronger for ball ups and a better mark. But Jackson will get there. I am not sure Rowan will ever be a good centre bounce ruckman. Even Silvagni out thought him and beat him comprehensively.

Absolutely spot on. It's RoMa's centre bounce work that needs massive improvement before he can be considered a great ruckman.
It's his lack of ruck expertise that sees people wanting him as a key forward. He can run, he can mark and is a good kick.
RoMa is our modern day Jeff Sarau as a ruckman, not the best going around, gives away size but makes up for that with heart, effort and determination. I loved Jeff Sarau.

I tend to think it’s a bit more like the McEvoy conundrum.

McEvoy has an average leap and even now is fairly mediocre in the middle but has had an excellent career as a contested mark taking roving big man

Hawthorn (in their glory years) were extremely clever in pairing him alongside someone that could go into the middle and stop opposition rucks from dominating the got outs for extended patches

That’s what I see the trick being with Roma and why the combination of he and Paddy to be a winner. I don’t think he’ll ever be that good at taps but he’s a monster elsewhere
Need to compensate for this deficiency and play to his strengths