Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
saynta
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 22530
Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 3:53pm
Has thanked: 8483 times
Been thanked: 3737 times

Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876229Post saynta »

From the heraldsun.com.au

CLUBS CIRCLE SAINT LONIE

"Jack Lonie has as many as four suitors – three from Victoria – as he attempts to secure a two-season deal from the Saints.

Heading into the final against Richmond Lonie had played 12 games for 46 score involvements and a dozen goals as one of the success stories for Brett Ratten’s Saints.

But he has been offered only a one-season deal and would want enough security in a two-season deal to stay put.

The Bulldogs are one of those teams keen to add some bite to their half forward line as Cody Weightman takes time to mature, with Tory Dickson having retired and Ben Cavarra having failed to make an impact after being recruited from the VFL.

St Kilda’s Shane Savage, coming in for only his second game of the season for the final given Ben Long’s suspension, has interest from rival clubs and will likely move on after this season."

Can understand Savage as saints can't play them all but would be crazy not to try and hold on to Lonie


User avatar
Mr Magic
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12698
Joined: Fri 04 May 2007 9:38am
Has thanked: 711 times
Been thanked: 400 times

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876247Post Mr Magic »

saynta wrote: Fri 09 Oct 2020 2:23pm From the heraldsun.com.au

CLUBS CIRCLE SAINT LONIE

"Jack Lonie has as many as four suitors – three from Victoria – as he attempts to secure a two-season deal from the Saints.

Heading into the final against Richmond Lonie had played 12 games for 46 score involvements and a dozen goals as one of the success stories for Brett Ratten’s Saints.

But he has been offered only a one-season deal and would want enough security in a two-season deal to stay put.

The Bulldogs are one of those teams keen to add some bite to their half forward line as Cody Weightman takes time to mature, with Tory Dickson having retired and Ben Cavarra having failed to make an impact after being recruited from the VFL.

St Kilda’s Shane Savage, coming in for only his second game of the season for the final given Ben Long’s suspension, has interest from rival clubs and will likely move on after this season."

Can understand Savage as saints can't play them all but would be crazy not to try and hold on to Lonie
With Lonie it depends who our recruiting staff have their eyes on - maybe someone who replaces Lonie in the team next year?
If they're recruiting Midfielders then Gresham goes back to his small forward role with only an occasional run in the middle.
I'd have him over Lonie in that position.


User avatar
skeptic
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 16527
Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 7:10pm
Has thanked: 3444 times
Been thanked: 2700 times

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876248Post skeptic »

Hate to lose Lonie... much better player than Kent


Beno88
SS Hall of Fame
Posts: 2241
Joined: Tue 10 Jul 2007 11:14am
Location: Bentleigh East
Has thanked: 265 times
Been thanked: 536 times

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876249Post Beno88 »

I'd prefer to keep Lonie, but he may be the trade currency we need to land the players we want.


Saintmatt
SS Life Member
Posts: 2534
Joined: Fri 20 Jan 2012 4:57pm
Has thanked: 2015 times
Been thanked: 1143 times

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876250Post Saintmatt »

I'd like to keep Lonie as he seems to have become a more team-orientated player in the 2nd half of the season. But - if he plays a part in helping us build our midfield stocks then - you have to be prepared to give a bit to get a bit.


Go you red, black & white warriors
User avatar
Sanctorum
Club Player
Posts: 1790
Joined: Sun 31 Aug 2014 10:08pm
Has thanked: 1394 times
Been thanked: 939 times

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876254Post Sanctorum »

There were big question marks about Jack Lonie's future two years ago as well.

At age 24 and 75 games he is exactly the sort of player that the club needs in the upcoming years, and I would be very surprised if St Kilda don't offer him at least another 2 or even 3 more years, he is most certainly "best 22" right now and will only get better!


"I am an old man and have known a great many troubles, but most of them never happened."

"Life would be infinitely happier if we could only be born at the age of eighty and gradually approach eighteen."

Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) American writer and humorist
User avatar
saintsRrising
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 30057
Joined: Mon 15 Mar 2004 11:07am
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 704 times
Been thanked: 1219 times

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876260Post saintsRrising »

Should keep Lonie.

Butler and Lonie are our best two small forwards. Perhaps test if any interest in Hind?


Flying the World in comfort thanks to FF Points....
silverhalo
Club Player
Posts: 952
Joined: Tue 20 Oct 2015 5:52pm
Has thanked: 169 times
Been thanked: 222 times

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876296Post silverhalo »

I really like Lonie and would hate to lose him......clever small forwards do not grow on trees


Peanut Farm
Club Player
Posts: 153
Joined: Thu 16 Aug 2018 7:42pm
Has thanked: 11 times
Been thanked: 52 times

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876305Post Peanut Farm »

Good luck to Savage, too good a player to be missing out each week.


User avatar
The Fireman
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12657
Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 11:54pm
Has thanked: 428 times
Been thanked: 1740 times

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876306Post The Fireman »

Lonie .... keeper


User avatar
samoht
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5727
Joined: Sun 14 Mar 2004 10:45am
Location: https://www.amazon.com.au/Fugitive-Sold ... B00EO1GCNK
Has thanked: 574 times
Been thanked: 431 times
Contact:

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876668Post samoht »

Lonie is too short/small for the torrid finals .... I would have even preferred someone like Langlands intsead - someone bigger-bodied, anyway.
Maybe even Parker?
Last edited by samoht on Fri 09 Oct 2020 10:14pm, edited 1 time in total.


Rocket
Club Player
Posts: 374
Joined: Mon 18 Jul 2005 11:04am
Been thanked: 59 times

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876673Post Rocket »

Lonie not up to it. Showed it tonight.


User avatar
samoht
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5727
Joined: Sun 14 Mar 2004 10:45am
Location: https://www.amazon.com.au/Fugitive-Sold ... B00EO1GCNK
Has thanked: 574 times
Been thanked: 431 times
Contact:

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876695Post samoht »

You need to get games into players who have the physical attributes to stand up to finals' pressure once you get there - Lonie just isn't built for finals.

.
Last edited by samoht on Fri 09 Oct 2020 10:23pm, edited 1 time in total.


Freebird
Club Player
Posts: 919
Joined: Sun 29 Jan 2012 12:37pm
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 94 times

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876707Post Freebird »

Lonie 6 possessions no tackles


User avatar
Impatient Sainter
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4089
Joined: Tue 05 Apr 2016 3:30pm
Has thanked: 2622 times
Been thanked: 1077 times

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876710Post Impatient Sainter »

Sooner we can Lonie out the door and give a footballer who ran run and take a mark in his position the better.


User avatar
Impatient Sainter
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4089
Joined: Tue 05 Apr 2016 3:30pm
Has thanked: 2622 times
Been thanked: 1077 times

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876714Post Impatient Sainter »

Impatient Sainter wrote: Fri 09 Oct 2020 10:23pm Sooner we can Lonie out the door and give a footballer who ran run and take a mark in his position the better. Thought the coaches erred not playing Parker more this year.


StPeter
Club Player
Posts: 1215
Joined: Thu 22 Jun 2006 4:03pm
Location: StKilda East
Has thanked: 45 times
Been thanked: 216 times
Contact:

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876734Post StPeter »

Savage showed tonight he is too good to be out of our best 22.

Still well ahead of Paton.


User avatar
samoht
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5727
Joined: Sun 14 Mar 2004 10:45am
Location: https://www.amazon.com.au/Fugitive-Sold ... B00EO1GCNK
Has thanked: 574 times
Been thanked: 431 times
Contact:

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876742Post samoht »

Savage is also more disciplined (read less reckless) than Long.
What a waste of a season!
Last edited by samoht on Fri 09 Oct 2020 10:35pm, edited 1 time in total.


Zed
SS Hall of Fame
Posts: 2163
Joined: Sun 28 Mar 2004 1:59pm
Location: by the seaside..
Has thanked: 34 times
Been thanked: 179 times

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876744Post Zed »

Not a great night for Lonie , but is our next best small forward after Butler.
I hope we hang onto him - unless of course we have another small forward to replace him - Higgins?.
I’m not a fan of Kent, just wastes the ball too much and doesn’t get or give a lot of clean Possessions . Not up to AFL standards. Same goes for Marsh.

Savage is good depth , and can’t begrudge him looking elsewhere to get regular games.


Life is never more fun than when you're the underdog competing against the giants.
User avatar
samoht
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5727
Joined: Sun 14 Mar 2004 10:45am
Location: https://www.amazon.com.au/Fugitive-Sold ... B00EO1GCNK
Has thanked: 574 times
Been thanked: 431 times
Contact:

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876752Post samoht »

Lonie is not a small forward - he's a tiny forward.
..."clever" doesn't make him "taller (or faster)."


User avatar
mad saint guy
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7024
Joined: Tue 26 Jul 2005 9:44pm
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 49 times
Been thanked: 343 times

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876760Post mad saint guy »

Happy to move both players on. Lonie is and will always be too inconsistent. Savage is fringe best 22 and not needed given our abundance of defenders.

Get a gun mid into the team and play Butler as the permanent small forward with Gresham, Billings, Sinclair, Steele and Hanners rotating between mid/forward.


BadRossco
Club Player
Posts: 486
Joined: Tue 13 Sep 2011 7:14pm
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 71 times

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876792Post BadRossco »

If someone is willing to take Lonie it should be under the proviso that they also take Kent and Marsh


User avatar
skeptic
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 16527
Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 7:10pm
Has thanked: 3444 times
Been thanked: 2700 times

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876798Post skeptic »

Savage to HBF
Long to FP

Trade Lonie if we can get a good swap for him
Kent to Siberia


The Barometer
Club Player
Posts: 279
Joined: Sun 05 Apr 2015 8:58pm
Has thanked: 150 times
Been thanked: 90 times

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876806Post The Barometer »

StPeter wrote: Fri 09 Oct 2020 10:31pm Savage showed tonight he is too good to be out of our best 22.

Still well ahead of Paton.
Savage is not a smart user of the football. Paton is. Paton is the future.


Saintmatt
SS Life Member
Posts: 2534
Joined: Fri 20 Jan 2012 4:57pm
Has thanked: 2015 times
Been thanked: 1143 times

Re: Maybe Lonie and Savage on the move

Post: # 1876807Post Saintmatt »

Freebird wrote: Fri 09 Oct 2020 10:23pm Lonie 6 possessions no tackles
And h3 still had a better final than Garry Rohan!

That’s my concern too ... he’s got some tricks but we’ll need to be dominating in a deep final for him to be effective. Too light brushed off too easily.


Go you red, black & white warriors
Post Reply