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Post: # 1589652Post ripplug66 »

CURLY wrote:What a f***** joke this is. We go out and get a gun CHB and now he misses the first two games due to a club imposed ban. Watch Dixon then Cloke kick bags against us. We got the bloke to play football so lets let him do it.

Sounds like a great thing the club is doing as is Carlisle. 2 weeks. Big deal. In the long run may work out great for everyone. If Cloke kicks a bag against us then Carlisle just didn't play well that day. It happens.


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I hope Jake looks at his up-coming time with the younger sainters (1 - 4 yrs playing group) as an opportunity to create his own positivity. He will be able to turn things around with a genuine mindset and put it all behind him. This club will notice positive efforts from Jake. :D


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Post: # 1589668Post maverick »

SO when does Bennell cop his two weeks from the AFL?


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maverick wrote:SO when does Bennell cop his two weeks from the AFL?

He was suspended.


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ripplug66 wrote:
maverick wrote:SO when does Bennell cop his two weeks from the AFL?

He was suspended.
Nup, did not get suspended, so I repeat when will he miss two games?


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maverick wrote:
ripplug66 wrote:
maverick wrote:SO when does Bennell cop his two weeks from the AFL?

He was suspended.
Nup, did not get suspended, so I repeat when will he miss two games?
Gold Coast club officials believe the decision to punish midfielder Harley Bennell over alleged drug use has been accepted by the AFL club's players.

Suns coach Rodney Eade says chief executive Andrew Travis addressed the players on Thursday after announcing Bennell's punishment.

Bennell has been fined $5,000 and given a three-match suspended ban after pictures of him allegedly using illicit drugs in a Tasmanian hotel in 2013 were published nationwide.

The 22-year-old, who has missed the past two games since the photos were published, will sit out Saturday's match with Greater Western Sydney before being eligible to return in the round 17 clash with Adelaide next week.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-17/s ... on/6627966


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Post: # 1589687Post satchmo »

maverick wrote:
ripplug66 wrote:
maverick wrote:SO when does Bennell cop his two weeks from the AFL?

He was suspended.
Nup, did not get suspended, so I repeat when will he miss two games?
Well the ban was suspended ..so you are both right.


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Who cares about Bennell and a club with a lack of culture?

Saints are doing everything right including this paltry 2 week suspension.

Would miss more games if he pulled a hammy


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Well at least, on his return, JC will have a chance to show exactly the reason we went after him. Gets to play on T.Cloke for his first game for the club. Exactly the type of player that we would normally struggle with a match up. Hawkins, Cameron, Roughhead, the other Reiwoldt etc. We've struggled against these types for so long. It's going to be refreshing to see JC and HG giving us some equalization. Now we need to find a lock down small defender for the Eddie Betts/ Cyril Rioli types,that can hurt the opposition going the other way. We find that piece of the puzzle and we will be going great guns.


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maverick wrote:SO when does Bennell cop his two weeks from the AFL?


You're not serious are you.

St Kilda almost certainly worked with the Afl on this ban. And regardless Bennell missed up to three games so don't know why your crying foul as if we are the ones being taken advantage of by the afl.


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Good to see Jake came home, manned up and copped it on the chin (not the nose), fronted the leadership group and then eyeballed the camera.
Not sure we can ask for anything more from a 22yo. Fair cop I reckon. Clean slate.


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Just to clarify Jake turned 24 in Oct , probably not the lingering result from a party he expected


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St Kilda almost certainly worked with the Afl on this ban.
... no doubt about it in my mind after listening to AR on the Sen podcast


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maverick wrote:
ripplug66 wrote:
maverick wrote:SO when does Bennell cop his two weeks from the AFL?

He was suspended.
Nup, did not get suspended, so I repeat when will he miss two games?

He was suspended without being suspended. He missed 2 games when not injured so that to me is 2 games suspension plus the likelihood of 3 more if he was stupid enough again. I suppose its the AFL picking on poor us.

The club are doing everything right here considering we had nothing to do with it. No idea about Bennell ot GC because I don't care about them.


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So he's still eligible for the Brownlow?


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Positive spin

I love it...


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BigMart wrote:Positive spin

I love it...
Explain the spin please?


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Post: # 1589719Post saintsRrising »

Look on the brightside:

* We get Carlisle now at a substantial discount

* That Carlisle now knows that he really needs to knuckle under ....that rather than just "swan in" asa "star" that he instead is going to have to "earn his stripes" with the playing group.

* That he will be "target tested" which will make less likely that he will re-offend


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Post: # 1589728Post satchmo »

Bunk_Moreland wrote:
BigMart wrote:Positive spin

I love it...
Explain the spin please?
It's a euphemism. Some say it makes you go blind.


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satchmo wrote:
Bunk_Moreland wrote:
BigMart wrote:Positive spin

I love it...
Explain the spin please?
It's a euphemism. Some say it makes you go blind.
I see. So what does a posters personal habits have to do with this thread?


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Post: # 1589732Post tommykit »

This may not be the worst thing in the world, granted its not the best though! But Jake will come back training hard and has something to prove to the rest of the group. He seems like someone who would benefit from the extra incentive to work hard to prove to everyone he's not a complete fwit. He's training with the 1st to 4th year players which gives him a few extra weeks on the track. I dont really care what he did, although yes it could of come out better but whatever.

I'm looking forward to round three to see Jake run out with us with something to prove.


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Post: # 1589733Post Bluthy »

It was all pretty predictable. Negotiated 2 weeks so the AFL is happy there is a message "drugs are bad ok" (drink driving before the finals - that's cool kids!). I liked Jake taking the strike - that was something he may had fought against. Loses 50 thou out of 600 hundred thou - not sure how much that really hurts. Of course he and the club say all the right things about "earning respect" etc- clubs are professional PR machines these days.

The proof will be in the pudding over the next few years - how well does he fit in, how stable and consistently does he play as a key back, does the big pay packet that everyone knows about now cause some resentment, how does the player selected at pick 5 go over the next few years which will be endlessly compared. All that will all tell the tale of this trade not a few words, a tokenistic suspension and some cash he won't miss anyway. Get the right type of white line fever Jake.


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Post: # 1589737Post Bunk_Moreland »

You must be on a good Wicket if you don't think missing $50k hurts.

Also why will he be compared to #5? For a start that pick will develop for a couple of years. Also if we chose Matho which is likely the club will spin it that we got him for virtually a second rounder. He mat need to be compared to pick 24 not 5


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Post: # 1589739Post saintspremiers »

Bunk_Moreland wrote:You must be on a good Wicket if you don't think missing $50k hurts.

5
It's only about 30K after tax and for anyone on over half a mil a year with half a brain that invests and saves wisely it shoudnt hurt that much. Yes, they are broad assumptions re brain capacity.


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