Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

Post: # 1905753Post Banger9798 »

MC Gusto wrote: Tue 01 Jun 2021 1:22pm Mind boggling only 1 pick?!?!
What is the rationale here?
Are we that tight on payments that we can't afford even the minimum wage to try out some kids?
Anyone know why we are only taking1 pick?


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

Post: # 1905756Post silverhalo »

My prediction is that we'll take Max Heath.....


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

Post: # 1905763Post CURLY »

WellardSaint wrote: Tue 01 Jun 2021 12:25pm AFL site says we've notified the AFL thst we're using ONE pick.

As at 11am AEST

AFL also reckons Freeman is on the Tigers' radar.
Good luck with that, 40 touches in a VFL game but according to a poster on here, the kicks were all tentative and lacked distance, as if he didn't want to overextend thr legs?
And it's alleged he lost his speed too.
Matt Rendell on SEN said his burst of speeds back and his skills are excellent.


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

Post: # 1905767Post maverick »

One pick is mind boggling Moronic
The amount of delistings we will have at year end v available draft picks means me may as well try 1 or 2 now


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

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maverick wrote: Tue 01 Jun 2021 3:49pm One pick is mind boggling Moronic
The amount of delistings we will have at year end v available draft picks means me may as well try 1 or 2 now
I would be going for 4 or at least 3 FFS


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

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Impatient Sainter wrote: Fri 28 May 2021 9:36pm
B.M wrote: Fri 28 May 2021 9:25pm Max Heath goes ok in the ruck but struggles to get a kick and is a bit slow

Sound familiar

Cough Billy Longer cough
Have you watched him play? I have watched several of his games this year and he is much more mobile than Longer. He got over 20 disposals in his first 2 games was taking strong marks and hitting the score board. Games 3 & 4 he was carrying an injury and was quieter but apparently he blitzed his school game last weekend.
Disposals & Marks, he sounds like the anti-Longer!


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

Post: # 1905788Post WellardSaint »

Blues, Hawks, Norf and GC are all going for 2.

For us to grudgingly say 'one, but only if we have to'
Is Lethlean in denial and his stubborn attitude is gonna hurt the club for years


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

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Perhaps keeping powder dry for main drafts, talent pool available Wednesday may be considered mediocre, also maybe our salary cap is stretched or fully budgeted.

However if Hannebery goes on long term injury list........


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

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Yorkeys wrote: Tue 01 Jun 2021 6:34pm Perhaps keeping powder dry for main drafts, talent pool available Wednesday may be considered mediocre, also maybe our salary cap is stretched or fully budgeted.

However if Hannebery goes on long term injury list........
If our recruiting team and their network of spies were not working overtime for the past 6 months to identify players overlooked in the drafts 2019 & 2020 with the opportunity to select between 2 to 4 players then they should be sacked, they can pack Lethlean up & take him when they leave the building.

This is a gimme in every sense of the recruiting word.

A young ruck / fwd
A young key defender
Two outside midfielders


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

Post: # 1905809Post WellardSaint »

Ghost Like wrote: Tue 01 Jun 2021 6:41pm
Yorkeys wrote: Tue 01 Jun 2021 6:34pm Perhaps keeping powder dry for main drafts, talent pool available Wednesday may be considered mediocre, also maybe our salary cap is stretched or fully budgeted.

However if Hannebery goes on long term injury list........
If our recruiting team and their network of spies were not working overtime for the past 6 months to identify players overlooked in the drafts 2019 & 2020 with the opportunity to select between 2 to 4 players then they should be sacked, they can pack Lethlean up & take him when they leave the building.

This is a gimme in every sense of the recruiting word.

A young ruck / fwd
A young key defender
Two outside midfielders
Ruck/Fwd- Hunter and McKernan experiment has failed miserably (get a young fit one now)
Key Defender (Frawley, you can have a beer with Isaac Smith of the Cats, but use YOUR money, you are the weakest link, pee-off)
2 outside mids ('Beyonce' Hill the diva, can't or won't perform, bye bye)


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

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Not sure the club has any frigg*n idea at the moment. I would rather give Ratts the flick.


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

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Apparently we have up to 4 spots now...
Take it all back :oops:


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

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Must take the maximum number of young recruits we can fit under our salary cap (which has probably been poorly managed and maxed out) then offload the list cloggers and go again in the national draft and try for another free agent. We are likely to slip further down the ladder so should end up with pick 2-4 which should be used and not traded. If the masterminds running the show don’t do something like this they may as well turn off the lights and lock the doors


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

Post: # 1905821Post MC Gusto »

maverick wrote: Tue 01 Jun 2021 7:33pm Apparently we have up to 4 spots now...
Take it all back :oops:
Where do you see that? AFL still reporting 1 - Mitch Cleary update from 2hrs ago


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

Post: # 1905823Post MC Gusto »

All good just saw the tweet. We are reaching the point of the absurd as a club
Why leave it until now
Why say maybe 1 at most ie 1 or 0
Why now have 4 picks

Are we in complete disarray?


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

Post: # 1905824Post MC Gusto »

Similarly - king can do what he wants…except for that, we overruled that

I mean wtf


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

Post: # 1905825Post saynta »

MC Gusto wrote: Tue 01 Jun 2021 7:56pm
maverick wrote: Tue 01 Jun 2021 7:33pm Apparently we have up to 4 spots now...
Take it all back :oops:
Where do you see that? AFL still reporting 1 - Mitch Cleary update from 2hrs ago
Mitch Cleary

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St Kilda has opened up a further three picks for tomorrow’s NAB AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft late today - taking them to four selections overall. Pies opted against another - leaving them at two picks @AFLcomau

6:30 PM · Jun 21


Thank f****** God. Sanity has prevailed at last.

Wonder if the powers that be have been influenced by the posts on this forum, big footy, facebook and others.

The comments posted are almost unanimously again having just one pick.


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

Post: # 1905837Post WellardSaint »

Someone at the club has crunched the numbers.
They need to keep these 4 (if they pick 4) for next yr too, or they lose $160k (for each?)

Therefore...if they take 4, then we have 4 guys on our list, whose contracts end this yr, that will be delisted.
It's a business decision. Can't fit them all under the cap, and we'll be committed to the new draftees

My guesses on not being offered new contracts
Carlisle- injuries
Lonie
Geary
Kent


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

Post: # 1905847Post BadRossco »

Wellerdsaint could be right with retiring or delisting Carlisle, Gerry, Lonie and Kent but should also look at moving on McKenzie, Hunter, Joyce, Alabaskis, Wood, McKernan and Frawley if they are not contracted but I guess we don’t have the picks to lose them all.


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

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BadRossco wrote: Tue 01 Jun 2021 9:35pm Wellerdsaint could be right with retiring or delisting Carlisle, Gerry, Lonie and Kent but should also look at moving on McKenzie, Hunter, Joyce, Alabaskis, Wood, McKernan and Frawley if they are not contracted but I guess we don’t have the picks to lose them all.
We should lose them all though. They’re all list cloggers. Do a north and de-list all of the dead wood. We couldnt get much worse.


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

Post: # 1905856Post maverick »

Well
Roberton will go
Hunter will go
Mc Kernan will go
Alabakis will go
We have 2 spare rookie spots I think

Frawley may go
Dunstan may move

That’s without trying
Plenty of spots


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

Post: # 1905858Post Devilhead »

I assume everyone understands that whoever we pick (under the age of 20) it is very unlikely they will impact this season at all.


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

Post: # 1905859Post ausfatcat »

B.M wrote: Fri 28 May 2021 7:33pm WTF are we only selecting one?

Select 4 and keep whoever shows a bit, let go who does not

It’s only a 6 month trial

That cost like 60 to 80k a pop as well
I predict one selection only.


Max heath maybe


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

Post: # 1905862Post BadRossco »

Devil head is probably right but this season is already washed up so let’s plan for the future that said we have a few in the team now that are not having a lot of impact


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Re: Mid-season draft: closest to the pin

Post: # 1905863Post WellardSaint »

Further to my post, I mentioned those 4 because according to the Contracts thread, they're signed to end of this yr.
Can't see any of them on the list next year.
Each newby apparently must be kept for next yr or we pay $80k for each one.
So...we may not take 4, we may play safe and take 2?


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