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Here's how I read the situation:

Almost every game Hickey has played this year has been better than any game Billy Longer has played in his entire career.

The gulf between these two players is enormous and if Billy ever overtakes Tom again as our no.1 ruck then I will be completely shocked.

If we can get a second round pick for Billy then we should jump at it and wish him all the best. One of the more useless players I've ever seen in a Saints jumper.

As for Tom Hickey, the guy is getting better with every game and could still potentially be one of the best rucks in the comp.


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I see where Witts has had 54 hitouts v 18 between 2 GWS players

Leading Gold Coast to an easy win

The online footy app has the scores in that Gold Coast v GWS the wrong way around


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To the top wrote: Sat 09 Jun 2018 7:52pm I see where Witts has had 54 hitouts v 18 between 2 GWS players

Leading Gold Coast to an easy win

The online footy app has the scores in that Gold Coast v GWS the wrong way around
Nothing new there, our ruckman apparently dominated against them too, but we didn't win!!!!!

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I thought Hickey was terrible tonight and absolutely smashed by Sinclair.

Need to play Longer ASAP. Team is going no where with Hickey in the side.


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Spinner wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:01pm I thought Hickey was terrible tonight and absolutely smashed by Sinclair.

Need to play Longer ASAP. Team is going no where with Hickey in the side.
I disagree. 30 hitouts and 11 disposals to Sinclair's 29 hitouts and 14 disposals. Thought Hickey was more than serviceable.


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SydneySainter wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:15pm
Spinner wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:01pm I thought Hickey was terrible tonight and absolutely smashed by Sinclair.

Need to play Longer ASAP. Team is going no where with Hickey in the side.
I disagree. 30 hitouts and 11 disposals to Sinclair's 29 hitouts and 14 disposals. Thought Hickey was more than serviceable.
The game was over at qtr time and Sinclair was BOG at that stage, the rest is irrelevant, too late when the game is done and dusted!!!!!


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Spinner wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:01pm I thought Hickey was terrible tonight and absolutely smashed by Sinclair.

Need to play Longer ASAP. Team is going no where with Hickey in the side.
If Longer was in the ruck last night, Sinclair would have got 60 hitouts and 6 goals


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stonecold wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:20pm
SydneySainter wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:15pm
Spinner wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:01pm I thought Hickey was terrible tonight and absolutely smashed by Sinclair.

Need to play Longer ASAP. Team is going no where with Hickey in the side.
I disagree. 30 hitouts and 11 disposals to Sinclair's 29 hitouts and 14 disposals. Thought Hickey was more than serviceable.
The game was over at qtr time and Sinclair was BOG at that stage, the rest is irrelevant, too late when the game is done and dusted!!!!!
Yet despite the game being over in the first qtr, we still had more 6 more inside 50s than the Swans at full-time, but we were still beaten by 12 goals. The rot stems much deeper than the ruck.


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spert wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:29pm
Spinner wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:01pm I thought Hickey was terrible tonight and absolutely smashed by Sinclair.

Need to play Longer ASAP. Team is going no where with Hickey in the side.
If Longer was in the ruck last night, Sinclair would have got 60 hitouts and 6 goals
That's f****** rubbish!!!!! Sinclair enjoyed the bruise-free footy Hickey plays, Longer wouldn't have allowed that, as I've said, Hickey is incapable of defending and providing any physical presence!!!!!

Billy will be back before you know it, Hickey is lucky Blight is not coach!!!!!

Each to their own, however when the game was there to be won, Sinclair was the catalyst, make whatever excuses you like, that's a fact!!!!!


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I love a good fact.


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stonecold wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:43pm
spert wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:29pm
Spinner wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:01pm I thought Hickey was terrible tonight and absolutely smashed by Sinclair.

Need to play Longer ASAP. Team is going no where with Hickey in the side.
If Longer was in the ruck last night, Sinclair would have got 60 hitouts and 6 goals
That's f****** rubbish!!!!! Sinclair enjoyed the bruise-free footy Hickey plays, Longer wouldn't have allowed that, as I've said, Hickey is incapable of defending and providing any physical presence!!!!!

Billy will be back before you know it, Hickey is lucky Blight is not coach!!!!!

Each to their own, however when the game was there to be won, Sinclair was the catalyst, make whatever excuses you like, that's a fact!!!!!
Most tackles on the ground, pretty good for a bloke with no physical presence!


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The_Dud wrote: Mon 11 Jun 2018 8:53pm
stonecold wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:43pm
spert wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:29pm
Spinner wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:01pm I thought Hickey was terrible tonight and absolutely smashed by Sinclair.

Need to play Longer ASAP. Team is going no where with Hickey in the side.
If Longer was in the ruck last night, Sinclair would have got 60 hitouts and 6 goals
That's f****** rubbish!!!!! Sinclair enjoyed the bruise-free footy Hickey plays, Longer wouldn't have allowed that, as I've said, Hickey is incapable of defending and providing any physical presence!!!!!

Billy will be back before you know it, Hickey is lucky Blight is not coach!!!!!

Each to their own, however when the game was there to be won, Sinclair was the catalyst, make whatever excuses you like, that's a fact!!!!!
Most tackles on the ground, pretty good for a bloke with no physical presence!
How'd he go when the game was up for grabs(1st qtr), I'll tell ya, Sinclair was BOG at qtr time!!!!!

The rest is irrelevant, result was decided!!!!!

Q: who do you think the coach was pointing the finger at, when he said, 'our midfield had no physical presence'!!!!!

Longer will be back this week, so, we will win!!!!!


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stonecold wrote: Mon 11 Jun 2018 9:35pm
The_Dud wrote: Mon 11 Jun 2018 8:53pm
stonecold wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:43pm
spert wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:29pm
Spinner wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:01pm I thought Hickey was terrible tonight and absolutely smashed by Sinclair.

Need to play Longer ASAP. Team is going no where with Hickey in the side.
If Longer was in the ruck last night, Sinclair would have got 60 hitouts and 6 goals
That's f****** rubbish!!!!! Sinclair enjoyed the bruise-free footy Hickey plays, Longer wouldn't have allowed that, as I've said, Hickey is incapable of defending and providing any physical presence!!!!!

Billy will be back before you know it, Hickey is lucky Blight is not coach!!!!!

Each to their own, however when the game was there to be won, Sinclair was the catalyst, make whatever excuses you like, that's a fact!!!!!
Most tackles on the ground, pretty good for a bloke with no physical presence!
How'd he go when the game was up for grabs(1st qtr), I'll tell ya, Sinclair was BOG at qtr time!!!!!

The rest is irrelevant, result was decided!!!!!

Q: who do you think the coach was pointing the finger at, when he said, 'our midfield had no physical presence'!!!!!

Longer will be back this week, so, we will win!!!!!
IF we win this week it will have nothing to do with the ruckman, it would be because we’re playing the only other team in the comp currently as hopeless as we are!!

Maybe we should have a wager whether Billy plays this week if you’re so confident :)


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The_Dud wrote: Mon 11 Jun 2018 11:01pm
stonecold wrote: Mon 11 Jun 2018 9:35pm
The_Dud wrote: Mon 11 Jun 2018 8:53pm
stonecold wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:43pm
spert wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:29pm
Spinner wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:01pm I thought Hickey was terrible tonight and absolutely smashed by Sinclair.

Need to play Longer ASAP. Team is going no where with Hickey in the side.
If Longer was in the ruck last night, Sinclair would have got 60 hitouts and 6 goals
That's f****** rubbish!!!!! Sinclair enjoyed the bruise-free footy Hickey plays, Longer wouldn't have allowed that, as I've said, Hickey is incapable of defending and providing any physical presence!!!!!

Billy will be back before you know it, Hickey is lucky Blight is not coach!!!!!

Each to their own, however when the game was there to be won, Sinclair was the catalyst, make whatever excuses you like, that's a fact!!!!!
Most tackles on the ground, pretty good for a bloke with no physical presence!
How'd he go when the game was up for grabs(1st qtr), I'll tell ya, Sinclair was BOG at qtr time!!!!!

The rest is irrelevant, result was decided!!!!!

Q: who do you think the coach was pointing the finger at, when he said, 'our midfield had no physical presence'!!!!!

Longer will be back this week, so, we will win!!!!!
IF we win this week it will have nothing to do with the ruckman, it would be because we’re playing the only other team in the comp currently as hopeless as we are!!

Maybe we should have a wager whether Billy plays this week if you’re so confident :)
If Hickey plays, we won't win, we never do!!!!! ;)

You didn't answer the question either!!!!!

No need, I already know the answer!!!!!! ;)


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SydneySainter wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:15pm
Spinner wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:01pm I thought Hickey was terrible tonight and absolutely smashed by Sinclair.

Need to play Longer ASAP. Team is going no where with Hickey in the side.
I disagree. 30 hitouts and 11 disposals to Sinclair's 29 hitouts and 14 disposals. Thought Hickey was more than serviceable.


What a laughable response. Did you want to add the goals column from the stats sheet?

Absolutely laughable. Sinclair was one of their best.


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Apparently Hickey got shown up big time "on the couch" tonight


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Spinner wrote: Mon 11 Jun 2018 11:42pm
SydneySainter wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:15pm
Spinner wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:01pm I thought Hickey was terrible tonight and absolutely smashed by Sinclair.

Need to play Longer ASAP. Team is going no where with Hickey in the side.
I disagree. 30 hitouts and 11 disposals to Sinclair's 29 hitouts and 14 disposals. Thought Hickey was more than serviceable.


What a laughable response. Did you want to add the goals column from the stats sheet?

Absolutely laughable. Sinclair was one of their best.
Yep, Sinclair had 3 goals to Hickey’s behind. Hickey is poor defensively when his opponent goes forward, as is Longer.

Hickey was beaten, but not smashed.

I think it’s absolutely laughable that you say Longer must come in.


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SydneySainter wrote: Tue 12 Jun 2018 12:35am
Spinner wrote: Mon 11 Jun 2018 11:42pm
SydneySainter wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:15pm
Spinner wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:01pm I thought Hickey was terrible tonight and absolutely smashed by Sinclair.

Need to play Longer ASAP. Team is going no where with Hickey in the side.
I disagree. 30 hitouts and 11 disposals to Sinclair's 29 hitouts and 14 disposals. Thought Hickey was more than serviceable.


What a laughable response. Did you want to add the goals column from the stats sheet?

Absolutely laughable. Sinclair was one of their best.
Yep, Sinclair had 3 goals to Hickey’s behind. Hickey is poor defensively when his opponent goes forward, as is Longer.

Hickey was beaten, but not smashed.

I think it’s absolutely laughable that you say Longer must come in.
It was all about the first qtr, Sinclair BOG where the game was won!!!!!

Anyway, I have to sign off for the night before I get accused of posting too late, cause apparently that's a poor reflection on posters whom are burning the candle too long!!!!!

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Yeah he was good. Sinclair is the very model of the modern ruckman.
But here's a question - which Saint actually won their position?


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stonecold wrote: Mon 11 Jun 2018 11:14pm
The_Dud wrote: Mon 11 Jun 2018 11:01pm
stonecold wrote: Mon 11 Jun 2018 9:35pm
The_Dud wrote: Mon 11 Jun 2018 8:53pm
stonecold wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:43pm
spert wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:29pm
Spinner wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:01pm I thought Hickey was terrible tonight and absolutely smashed by Sinclair.

Need to play Longer ASAP. Team is going no where with Hickey in the side.
If Longer was in the ruck last night, Sinclair would have got 60 hitouts and 6 goals
That's f****** rubbish!!!!! Sinclair enjoyed the bruise-free footy Hickey plays, Longer wouldn't have allowed that, as I've said, Hickey is incapable of defending and providing any physical presence!!!!!

Billy will be back before you know it, Hickey is lucky Blight is not coach!!!!!

Each to their own, however when the game was there to be won, Sinclair was the catalyst, make whatever excuses you like, that's a fact!!!!!
Most tackles on the ground, pretty good for a bloke with no physical presence!
How'd he go when the game was up for grabs(1st qtr), I'll tell ya, Sinclair was BOG at qtr time!!!!!

The rest is irrelevant, result was decided!!!!!

Q: who do you think the coach was pointing the finger at, when he said, 'our midfield had no physical presence'!!!!!

Longer will be back this week, so, we will win!!!!!
IF we win this week it will have nothing to do with the ruckman, it would be because we’re playing the only other team in the comp currently as hopeless as we are!!

Maybe we should have a wager whether Billy plays this week if you’re so confident :)
If Hickey plays, we won't win, we never do!!!!! ;)

You didn't answer the question either!!!!!

No need, I already know the answer!!!!!! ;)
I think the coach was pointing the finger at every player in the midfield, and further than that on the ground. We had 22 players and none of them stood up in the first quarter. Singling our Hickey is over the top, you could single out any of the other 21 players as well.

So, that wager? If Billy doesn’t play against the Suns, you have to refrain from mentioning Hickey, Billy or the ruck in any way until our next game. Sound fair? ;)


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SydneySainter wrote: Tue 12 Jun 2018 12:35am
Spinner wrote: Mon 11 Jun 2018 11:42pm
SydneySainter wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:15pm
Spinner wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:01pm I thought Hickey was terrible tonight and absolutely smashed by Sinclair.

Need to play Longer ASAP. Team is going no where with Hickey in the side.
I disagree. 30 hitouts and 11 disposals to Sinclair's 29 hitouts and 14 disposals. Thought Hickey was more than serviceable.


What a laughable response. Did you want to add the goals column from the stats sheet?

Absolutely laughable. Sinclair was one of their best.
Yep, Sinclair had 3 goals to Hickey’s behind. Hickey is poor defensively when his opponent goes forward, as is Longer.

Hickey was beaten, but not smashed.

I think it’s absolutely laughable that you say Longer must come in.

So 'more than serviceable' to now 'beaten'... Need to make up your mind if you are going to comment. And if going to comment, don't pick and choose stats to your liking, make an honest argument.

Sinclair killed us on Saturday. Surprised it wasn't so obvious.


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The_Dud wrote: Tue 12 Jun 2018 1:26am
stonecold wrote: Mon 11 Jun 2018 11:14pm
The_Dud wrote: Mon 11 Jun 2018 11:01pm
stonecold wrote: Mon 11 Jun 2018 9:35pm
The_Dud wrote: Mon 11 Jun 2018 8:53pm
stonecold wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:43pm
spert wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:29pm
Spinner wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:01pm I thought Hickey was terrible tonight and absolutely smashed by Sinclair.

Need to play Longer ASAP. Team is going no where with Hickey in the side.
If Longer was in the ruck last night, Sinclair would have got 60 hitouts and 6 goals
That's f****** rubbish!!!!! Sinclair enjoyed the bruise-free footy Hickey plays, Longer wouldn't have allowed that, as I've said, Hickey is incapable of defending and providing any physical presence!!!!!

Billy will be back before you know it, Hickey is lucky Blight is not coach!!!!!

Each to their own, however when the game was there to be won, Sinclair was the catalyst, make whatever excuses you like, that's a fact!!!!!
Most tackles on the ground, pretty good for a bloke with no physical presence!
How'd he go when the game was up for grabs(1st qtr), I'll tell ya, Sinclair was BOG at qtr time!!!!!

The rest is irrelevant, result was decided!!!!!

Q: who do you think the coach was pointing the finger at, when he said, 'our midfield had no physical presence'!!!!!

Longer will be back this week, so, we will win!!!!!
IF we win this week it will have nothing to do with the ruckman, it would be because we’re playing the only other team in the comp currently as hopeless as we are!!

Maybe we should have a wager whether Billy plays this week if you’re so confident :)
If Hickey plays, we won't win, we never do!!!!! ;)

You didn't answer the question either!!!!!

No need, I already know the answer!!!!!! ;)
I think the coach was pointing the finger at every player in the midfield, and further than that on the ground. We had 22 players and none of them stood up in the first quarter. Singling our Hickey is over the top, you could single out any of the other 21 players as well.

So, that wager? If Billy doesn’t play against the Suns, you have to refrain from mentioning Hickey, Billy or the ruck in any way until our next game. Sound fair? ;)
No cigar. freedom of speech is allowed (within the rules), plus what are you wagering????? A bet in a two way street!!!!!


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stonecold wrote: Tue 12 Jun 2018 9:27am
No cigar. freedom of speech is allowed (within the rules), plus what are you wagering????? A bet in a two way street!!!!!
But you sounded so confident Billy will be back!

I thought I’d leave my wager up to you, what do u thinks fair? :)


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Spinner wrote: Tue 12 Jun 2018 1:48am
SydneySainter wrote: Tue 12 Jun 2018 12:35am
Spinner wrote: Mon 11 Jun 2018 11:42pm
SydneySainter wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:15pm
Spinner wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:01pm I thought Hickey was terrible tonight and absolutely smashed by Sinclair.

Need to play Longer ASAP. Team is going no where with Hickey in the side.
I disagree. 30 hitouts and 11 disposals to Sinclair's 29 hitouts and 14 disposals. Thought Hickey was more than serviceable.


What a laughable response. Did you want to add the goals column from the stats sheet?

Absolutely laughable. Sinclair was one of their best.
Yep, Sinclair had 3 goals to Hickey’s behind. Hickey is poor defensively when his opponent goes forward, as is Longer.

Hickey was beaten, but not smashed.

I think it’s absolutely laughable that you say Longer must come in.

So 'more than serviceable' to now 'beaten'... Need to make up your mind if you are going to comment. And if going to comment, don't pick and choose stats to your liking, make an honest argument.

Sinclair killed us on Saturday. Surprised it wasn't so obvious.
I never contradicted myself. While Hickey was beaten by Sinclair, I still think he was more than serviceable. Does being more serviceable mean by definition you need to "win" your position? If that's the way you see it, fair enough, but it's not the way I see it.

As for my so-called cherry picking stats, what stats have I missed that supports your so-called honest argument that Hickey was "absolutely smashed". As far as the stats are concerned, head to head, their wasn't much separating Hickey and Sinclair, except for his 3 goals.

Take a chill pill!


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The_Dud wrote: Tue 12 Jun 2018 10:05am
stonecold wrote: Tue 12 Jun 2018 9:27am
No cigar. freedom of speech is allowed (within the rules), plus what are you wagering????? A bet in a two way street!!!!!
But you sounded so confident Billy will be back!

I thought I’d leave my wager up to you, what do u thinks fair? :)
Hard to have any confidence in anything happening with the club ( selection no different )!!!!!

Not interested in wagering anything on who gets selected, been picking the wrong team all year, thus our results!!!!!

If Hickey plays and we loss, you have to change your user name to: Billy is our best Ruck!!!!! ;)


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