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Re: Let’s talk umpires and cheating

Post: # 1859838Post CURLY »

The_Dud wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 1:57pm
CURLY wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 12:57pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 12:44pm Round 3, 2020

Collingwood 81 defeat St Kilda 37

Free kicks Coll 17 - Stk 19
But 5 goals from frees to zero.

Elani and Ray have shown a bias for Collingwood. Ray has umpired three games for 61 - 27 Collingwoods way.
I'd love to know where you're getting those numbers from, have you got a link to that data?
It's my job to know.


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Re: Let’s talk umpires and cheating

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CURLY wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 2:05pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 1:57pm
CURLY wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 12:57pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 12:44pm Round 3, 2020

Collingwood 81 defeat St Kilda 37

Free kicks Coll 17 - Stk 19
But 5 goals from frees to zero.

Elani and Ray have shown a bias for Collingwood. Ray has umpired three games for 61 - 27 Collingwoods way.
I'd love to know where you're getting those numbers from, have you got a link to that data?
It's my job to know.
So you don't actually have proof of any of these stats your quoting?


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Re: Let’s talk umpires and cheating

Post: # 1859840Post CURLY »

The_Dud wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 2:12pm
CURLY wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 2:05pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 1:57pm
CURLY wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 12:57pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 12:44pm Round 3, 2020

Collingwood 81 defeat St Kilda 37

Free kicks Coll 17 - Stk 19
But 5 goals from frees to zero.

Elani and Ray have shown a bias for Collingwood. Ray has umpired three games for 61 - 27 Collingwoods way.
I'd love to know where you're getting those numbers from, have you got a link to that data?
It's my job to know.
So you don't actually have proof of any of these stats your quoting?

Go to Match Center tells you there. FFS we even had Ray defend his own umpiring in the Collingwood v Geelong game saying he reviewed it and he did a great job.

Thanks Ray


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Re: Let’s talk umpires and cheating

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CURLY wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 2:17pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 2:12pm
CURLY wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 2:05pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 1:57pm
CURLY wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 12:57pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 12:44pm Round 3, 2020

Collingwood 81 defeat St Kilda 37

Free kicks Coll 17 - Stk 19
But 5 goals from frees to zero.

Elani and Ray have shown a bias for Collingwood. Ray has umpired three games for 61 - 27 Collingwoods way.
I'd love to know where you're getting those numbers from, have you got a link to that data?
It's my job to know.
So you don't actually have proof of any of these stats your quoting?

Go to Match Center tells you there. FFS we even had Ray defend his own umpiring in the Collingwood v Geelong game saying he reviewed it and he did a great job.

Thanks Ray
I know you can get the game totals, but where can you find breakdowns of individual umpires and what frees they pay?


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Re: Let’s talk umpires and cheating

Post: # 1859844Post CURLY »

The_Dud wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 2:44pm
CURLY wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 2:17pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 2:12pm
CURLY wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 2:05pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 1:57pm
CURLY wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 12:57pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 12:44pm Round 3, 2020

Collingwood 81 defeat St Kilda 37

Free kicks Coll 17 - Stk 19
But 5 goals from frees to zero.

Elani and Ray have shown a bias for Collingwood. Ray has umpired three games for 61 - 27 Collingwoods way.
I'd love to know where you're getting those numbers from, have you got a link to that data?
It's my job to know.
So you don't actually have proof of any of these stats your quoting?

Go to Match Center tells you there. FFS we even had Ray defend his own umpiring in the Collingwood v Geelong game saying he reviewed it and he did a great job.

Thanks Ray
I know you can get the game totals, but where can you find breakdowns of individual umpires and what frees they pay?
You know you've posted it before or did you just make it up?


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Re: Let’s talk umpires and cheating

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CURLY wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 2:50pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 2:44pm
CURLY wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 2:17pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 2:12pm
CURLY wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 2:05pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 1:57pm
CURLY wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 12:57pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2020 12:44pm Round 3, 2020

Collingwood 81 defeat St Kilda 37

Free kicks Coll 17 - Stk 19
But 5 goals from frees to zero.

Elani and Ray have shown a bias for Collingwood. Ray has umpired three games for 61 - 27 Collingwoods way.
I'd love to know where you're getting those numbers from, have you got a link to that data?
It's my job to know.
So you don't actually have proof of any of these stats your quoting?

Go to Match Center tells you there. FFS we even had Ray defend his own umpiring in the Collingwood v Geelong game saying he reviewed it and he did a great job.

Thanks Ray
I know you can get the game totals, but where can you find breakdowns of individual umpires and what frees they pay?
You know you've posted it before or did you just make it up?
I have a feeling I got that from the same place you're getting your numbers from, and if I recall correctly you weren't too on board with their legitimacy.


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Re: Let’s talk umpires and cheating

Post: # 1860051Post Yorkeys »

Just watched Swans v GWS. It again highlighted the AFL has a big problem with umpire incompetence, or poor decisions for whatever reasons. Need to start a professional stream, current recruitment system just not working. There will be a riot or violence in a GF or elimination final if the standard doesn't get to a reasonable level. NRL GF last year was made a joke by the final umpiring decision, we don't need that type of outcome. Umpiring is hard, but not that hard.


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Re: Let’s talk umpires and cheating

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Yorkeys wrote: Fri 14 Aug 2020 12:25am Just watched Swans v GWS. It again highlighted the AFL has a big problem with umpire incompetence, or poor decisions for whatever reasons. Need to start a professional stream, current recruitment system just not working. There will be a riot or violence in a GF or elimination final if the standard doesn't get to a reasonable level. NRL GF last year was made a joke by the final umpiring decision, we don't need that type of outcome. Umpiring is hard, but not that hard.
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Agree with idea, not across details


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Re: Let’s talk umpires and cheating

Post: # 1865857Post saynta »

Great article and so true.


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Re: Let’s talk umpires and cheating

Post: # 1865863Post Joffa Burns »

saynta wrote: Wed 02 Sep 2020 7:46pm
Great article and so true.
There is a lot of truth in that article and agree umpires should be FT to allow better training and professionalism.

They miss the point coaches play in the umpiring and how the rules are constantly changing in an effort to compensate for negative game styles & tactics that stifle the flow of the game.

Couldn't agree more on this paragraph, but who is the one person the author refers?
Is it Curly :wink:

Ruck infringements typify what’s wrong with the state of umpiring today.

How many times do rucks tangle up, the umpire blows their whistle, and then we all – from the spectators to the commentators to the players themselves – pause without any idea which way the free kick will go?

We’re talking tens of thousands of people who will be clueless.

How is that possible? How can only one person know?

Doesn’t that suggest there is communication issue? We don’t understand what the umpire’s seeing.


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Re: Let’s talk umpires and cheating

Post: # 1865918Post CURLY »

saynta wrote: Wed 02 Sep 2020 7:46pm
Great article and so true.
No one denies there is a issue with the umpiring and interpretation's of rules. The massive issue is that certain side seem to benefit from umpiring more than others. West Coast Collingwood get a dream rum while StKilda have copped a deplorable run of contstant s*** costing numerous games including a Grand Final.


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