Kosi

saintsrus · Post: # 752548Post **saintsrus** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:02pm

Iceman234 wrote:Huge bump

From Giansiracusa

Beekay · Post: # 752549Post **Beekay** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:03pm

bigcarl wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
saintly_safes wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
saintly_safes wrote:The Kosi factor has raised its ugly head again. WTF do you want from the guy. He has been injury free kicking important goals & more than pulling his weight. The champion talk is in the eyes of the beholder , in my opinion hes a champion but for some strange reason even saint supporters doubt him . He has been injury prone I'll give you that , but this year the bloke has deivered & people are still not happy .Give the bloke a break we are 10 zip.
He is an important player but give me a reason why he is a cchampion. Even this year I doubt he would be in our top 8 players for the year or if he is he would be 7 or 8. An important player for the club but no champion.
Important player is a generalisation.They are all important players but champions lift went it counts & imo he has done that on many occassions. The lions game this year is only one of many he has already kicked 3 , tough shot to get us back in the contest & nails it.Gives the team a real lift & we go on a win the game . I dont expect you to agree with me & friendly banter is what this site is for . 90 % of the time im on your side this time im not
Champions also get the ball what ever the situation and also I dont know one champion who in 9 years has never finsihed top 8 in the B&F. I would love him to become a champ but he is never going to get there. What he hopefully will do is win a flag and than I couldnt give a stuff if he never gets near being a champ.

i think the term champion is often thrown around a bit loosely and should be reserved for only the very best of the best.

lockett, for example, was a champion. harvey was a champion. ian stewart was a champion. riewoldt is well on his way.

it's a tag that is earned by years of excellence.

in my definition plugger is right. kosi's a very good player for us, but not a champion.

I agree also, but to say he will never be a champion player, is a bit harsh.. he still has another 100 games in him ffs, and he just kicked 6 goals

Sainterone · Post: # 752565Post **Sainterone** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:08pm

Champions win matches.
I think he was the difference today.

5 contested marks - almost as many as the entire kangas team

6 great goals

Well done Kosi

bigcarl · Post: # 752573Post **bigcarl** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:11pm

Sainterone wrote:Champions win matches.
I think he was the difference today.

5 contested marks - almost as many as the entire kangas team
6 great goals

Well done Kosi

do you have any idea how many times i saw lockett kick six and win us a game?

kosi has some champion-like qualities, which were evident today ... but he has a way to go before he can be classed as one and i reckon he'd be the first to admit it.

but a super effort by the big fella

Munga · Post: # 752586Post **Munga** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:16pm

He's a wrecking ball with hands

Beekay · Post: # 752594Post **Beekay** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:18pm

bigcarl wrote:
Sainterone wrote:Champions win matches.
I think he was the difference today.

5 contested marks - almost as many as the entire kangas team
6 great goals

Well done Kosi
do you have any idea how many times i saw lockett kick six and win us a game?

kosi has some champion-like qualities, which were evident today ... but he has a way to go before he can be classed as one and i reckon he'd be the first to admit it.

but a super effort by the big fella

Come on mate, take your hand off it.. you can be a champion player for a season or two and then go play for Richmond.. but you were still a champion player.

eg. Nigel Lappin. Didn't dominate his whole career like your boyfriend Tony Lockett, but would you say he was not a champion player in the Lions 3 peat ?

Remember there is still a step up from a champion player..

and that is a legendary player!

mullet · Post: # 752601Post **mullet** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:20pm

yipper wrote:Looked at him close up last week (on the fence at Carrara) he looks seriously fit, hungry and well.. big.

A big bag is just around the corner for him - hopefully tomorrow arvo actually!! He is a matchwinner for us. Combining superbly with Roo this season, which is a credit to our new forwardline coach.

Tattslotto numbers please

bigcarl · Post: # 752609Post **bigcarl** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:23pm

Beekay wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
Sainterone wrote:Champions win matches.
I think he was the difference today.

5 contested marks - almost as many as the entire kangas team
6 great goals

Well done Kosi
do you have any idea how many times i saw lockett kick six and win us a game?

kosi has some champion-like qualities, which were evident today ... but he has a way to go before he can be classed as one and i reckon he'd be the first to admit it.

but a super effort by the big fella
Come on mate, take your hand off it.. you can be a champion player for a season or two and then go play for Richmond.. but you were still a champion player.

eg. Nigel Lappin. Didn't dominate his whole career like your boyfriend Tony Lockett, but would you say he was not a champion player in the Lions 3 peat ?

Remember there is still a step up from a champion player..

and that is a legendary player!

well, it depends on your definition. on mine we have one possible champion playing and it's riewoldt.

st.byron · Post: # 752685Post **st.byron** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:56pm

Great game from Kosi today. Have been fairly vehement in insisting that he's been inconsistent in the past so great to see him start to consistently make a big impact. 15 goals in the past 4 games. Great to see. Could easily have kicked 8 today - missed a couple of easy shots.

jk23 · Post: # 752770Post **jk23** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 7:49pm

CHAMPION

GOALS !!!!!!!!!!!

maverick · Post: # 752849Post **maverick** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 8:18pm

bigcarl wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
saintly_safes wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
saintly_safes wrote:The Kosi factor has raised its ugly head again. WTF do you want from the guy. He has been injury free kicking important goals & more than pulling his weight. The champion talk is in the eyes of the beholder , in my opinion hes a champion but for some strange reason even saint supporters doubt him . He has been injury prone I'll give you that , but this year the bloke has deivered & people are still not happy .Give the bloke a break we are 10 zip.
He is an important player but give me a reason why he is a cchampion. Even this year I doubt he would be in our top 8 players for the year or if he is he would be 7 or 8. An important player for the club but no champion.
Important player is a generalisation.They are all important players but champions lift went it counts & imo he has done that on many occassions. The lions game this year is only one of many he has already kicked 3 , tough shot to get us back in the contest & nails it.Gives the team a real lift & we go on a win the game . I dont expect you to agree with me & friendly banter is what this site is for . 90 % of the time im on your side this time im not
Champions also get the ball what ever the situation and also I dont know one champion who in 9 years has never finsihed top 8 in the B&F. I would love him to become a champ but he is never going to get there. What he hopefully will do is win a flag and than I couldnt give a stuff if he never gets near being a champ.

i think the term champion is often thrown around a bit loosely and should be reserved for only the very best of the best.

lockett, for example, was a champion. harvey was a champion. ian stewart was a champion. riewoldt is well on his way.

it's a tag that is earned by years of excellence.

in my definition plugger is right. kosi's a very good player for us, but not a champion.

Agree with you on the champion tag, except Roo is a champion now, 4 B&F's in a successful era (for St Kilda) is enough, if he never played another game he would be remembered as a champion.

Agree with P66, don't think Kosi can become a champion now, but he is so enjoyable to watch.

Just out of interest was Buckets a champion?

Iceman234 · Post: # 752854Post **Iceman234** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 8:20pm

maverick wrote:Agree with you on the champion tag, except Roo is a champion now, 4 B&F's in a successful era (for St Kilda) is enough, if he never played another game he would be remembered as a champion.

Agree with P66, don't think Kosi can become a champion now, but he is so enjoyable to watch.

Just out of interest was Buckets a champion?

Kosi has plenty of time and ability to become a champion. For mine, if he plays in a premiership team, he is a champion.

maverick · Post: # 752856Post **maverick** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 8:21pm

Iceman234 wrote:
maverick wrote:Agree with you on the champion tag, except Roo is a champion now, 4 B&F's in a successful era (for St Kilda) is enough, if he never played another game he would be remembered as a champion.

Agree with P66, don't think Kosi can become a champion now, but he is so enjoyable to watch.

Just out of interest was Buckets a champion?
Kosi has plenty of time and ability to become a champion. For mine, if he plays in a premiership team, he is a champion.

No he's a legend then

bigcarl · Post: # 752861Post **bigcarl** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 8:22pm

maverick wrote:Just out of interest was Buckets a champion?

a very good player.

Iceman234 · Post: # 752864Post **Iceman234** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 8:24pm

bigcarl wrote:
Iceman234 wrote:Just out of interest was Buckets a champion?
a very good player.

Wasn't my quote.

bigcarl · Post: # 752867Post **bigcarl** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 8:25pm

sorry. fixed.

maverick · Post: # 752874Post **maverick** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 8:30pm

bigcarl wrote:
maverick wrote:Just out of interest was Buckets a champion?
a very good player.

I agree, think Kosi will end up valued the same way.

Solar · Post: # 752894Post **Solar** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 8:51pm

imagine what he will do against the blues next week if we can get enough supply to him!

RodKeoghsLoveChild · Sat 06 Jun 2009 8:54pm

Kosi taking pack marks and imposing himself on a game.....now........

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN' BOUT!!

eel33 · Post: # 752908Post **eel33** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 9:02pm

Personally, I think we spend too much time trying to define whether one player is a champion or not. Right here, right now, I'm more interested in what Kosi does for our team structure. And I doubt that anyone would argue that as being anything but a huge positive. We can assess whether he is a champion or not when his career ends - hopefully many years from now.

Bernard Shakey · Sat 06 Jun 2009 9:35pm

Sainterone wrote:Champions win matches.
I think he was the difference today.

5 contested marks - almost as many as the entire kangas team :shock:
6 great goals

Well done Kosi :D

Great game Kosi, however he is far from a champion.

His best in our B&F is 9th many years ago. Today was his best goal tally ever.
He is being played in the right position now and has the opportunity to become a champion. Still a long way to go.

saintly_safes · Sun 07 Jun 2009 12:47am

Good game Kosi you have your knockers but you have alot of loyal fans too.Keep up the good work

plugger66 · Post: # 753167Post **plugger66** » Sun 07 Jun 2009 1:06am

Bernard Shakey wrote:
Sainterone wrote:Champions win matches.
I think he was the difference today.

5 contested marks - almost as many as the entire kangas team
6 great goals

Well done Kosi
Great game Kosi, however he is far from a champion.

His best in our B&F is 9th many years ago. Today was his best goal tally ever.
He is being played in the right position now and has the opportunity to become a champion. Still a long way to go.

As I have said before do not watch games through 2 eyes but if you do you must get carried away with a player when they are best on the ground. Grammy is a champion.

saintbrat · Post: # 753208Post **saintbrat** » Sun 07 Jun 2009 1:54am

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/ ... 42,00.html
Jumping Justin Koschitzke lifts Saints
Jay Clark | June 07, 2009 12:00am
IN football there is such a thing as a spiritual leader. Justin Koschitzke, though, is St Kilda's spiritual lifter. As North pounced to a five-goal lead yesterday, the question was asked of the St Kilda playing group, who wanted to opt out.

The answer, of course, is no one. But it took something special from Lenny Hayes and Koschitzke to ignite them.

As Kosi reached for the skies and began to split packs with some monster second-term grabs, it was significant how much the team mood lifted. How much they became energised.

Housemate Leigh Montagna knows the thrill all his teammates get out of watching Koschitzke fire as only he can.

"It's exciting for the playing group because, as we know, he has been through so many injuries and so many tough times," Montagna said.

"It's nice he's getting the reward and it's a credit for the hard work he's done, because he's put in so much extra time to get his body right.

"There's no doubt, to see him up and firing really does lift the boys."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

claystreet · Post: # 753275Post **claystreet** » Sun 07 Jun 2009 9:01am

I am a big fan of Kosi hes got heaps more juice in the tank yet.