Are We Really So Scared of Geelong and Hawthorn?

The Linton Street Flash · Sun 05 Apr 2009 11:03am

I'm sick of all the hullaballoo about these two teams.

The media obsession with their apparent invincibility is enough to give me a severe case of the pips.

Bakes is back - Bally is too - Gardi is flying - Roo hasn't even got started yet - BRing em on...

Invincible my arse!!

SAINTERS!!!!

Statsman · Post: # 718642Post **Statsman** » Sun 05 Apr 2009 11:09am

We need to respect them, but we should not fear them. However we're not a serious threat until we show we can beat these two sides. They are the current benchmark and we need to overtake them.

SaintDebi · Post: # 718644Post **SaintDebi** » Sun 05 Apr 2009 11:14am

If we could only beat one team this year I'd want it to be Geelong.
I heard they are starting to get some injuries. THey are ateam that feeds on the media hysteria and adoration afforded them by the local "Geelong Ablettiser".
I think if they start to drop off a bit through injuries or otherwise, the fickle Geelong fans will be quick to criticise and hang them out. The Ablettiser will pick up on that and start with the headlines quesioning the club, the players, the committment, the mental strength, blah, blah, blah; and then the players will start believing that publicity in just the same way that they took on the belief that they are invincible, so maybe, hopefully we might start seeing some cracks by the middle of the season.
I HATE the cats, so might be a bit of wishful thinking in there, but fingers crossed....

westy · Post: # 718646Post **westy** » Sun 05 Apr 2009 11:16am

As long as the media keep sh.. canning us that is fine. We belted Hawthorn once last year and we can certainly do it again. Geelong don't look too flash either

Armoooo · Post: # 718699Post **Armoooo** » Sun 05 Apr 2009 1:31pm

Neither team has looked impressive so far this year but they have a lot of room for improvement, I'm sure they would rather be struggling at this time of year than in late August.

We must respect them, they are still the two best teams in the competition and we would have to get the best out of the team if we were to beat them in September.

gringo · Post: # 718704Post **gringo** » Sun 05 Apr 2009 1:41pm

Geelong look like they are just travelling along doing what they have to to win.

They'll come home strong again, but Jeff Kennett has helped soften them up by calling them, fragile mentally.

The Hawks could do anything again if they can focus again and get player back consistantly. we can tell them about key injuries disrupting seasons.

This year is looking as good as any and I have faith but I'll be hanging rabbits feet and touching wood all season that our team stays injury free.

When Grams shoulder looked like it had popped a sense of de ja vu came on.

But hopefully the footy gods smile on us and curse all our rivals just for one year.

Sainternist · Sun 05 Apr 2009 1:49pm

Any team, regardless of them being one of the premiers of the past two seasons, has another thing coming if they think the competition is a cakewalk for them. Yesterday showed there was pretty good evidence for this.

Saints Premiers 2008 · Sun 05 Apr 2009 1:54pm

we should fear anyone or anthing....any team that believes they are a chance to contest mustn't feat anyone/thing

geelongs midfield is scary...its the only positional third of any team in the afl that we might struggle to contest with...on a good day for them...not us

stkfc1 · Post: # 718721Post **stkfc1** » Sun 05 Apr 2009 2:27pm

Also remember that Hawks had 8 of their premiership players out last

night,and from memory the Cats started a bit sluggish last year as well,they

still won the games but were not at their best,which is the sign of a good

team. We should respect every team whether it's the Cats or the Dee's.

Remember last year against the Eagles (round 20 i think)everyone penciled it in as a shoo in

and we played like it and we know what happened. The competition is so

evenly spread that there isn't that much difference between 4th and 12th

these days. Fear no one but respect everyone!

InkerSaint · Post: # 718824Post **InkerSaint** » Sun 05 Apr 2009 6:41pm

stkfc1 wrote:Remember last year against the Eagles (round 20 i think)everyone penciled it in as a shoo in

Round 17. Sabotage Saturday, The Age called it. Several teams in the top 8 lost to a bottom-8 side, and Hawthorn lost to Geelong that round.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/s ... 59827.html

SainterK · Post: # 718888Post **SainterK** » Sun 05 Apr 2009 8:51pm

I would like to think the football we are playing at the moment, might be striking fear into Geelong and Hawthorn

Shaggy · Post: # 718917Post **Shaggy** » Sun 05 Apr 2009 9:19pm

We should not fear Cats or Hawks ... nor should they fear us. But deep respect ... yes.

Between the three of us I think it depends on injuries.

Teflon · Post: # 719037Post **Teflon** » Mon 06 Apr 2009 12:42am

I dont fear Hawks. IMO they are beatable.

Cats.....need an off day...across each line they are still stronger....with all respects to the players I dont think Geary, Eddy, Gwilt, Mqualter, Jones would get a game for them.

MC Gusto · Post: # 719081Post **MC Gusto** » Mon 06 Apr 2009 10:51am

Red · Post: # 719093Post **Red** » Mon 06 Apr 2009 11:18am

As much as the team has played very well I'm not sure either the crows

or Sydney will feature in the finals this year. Let's beat a side that is going

to be in the 8 before we get ahead of ourselves.

Hurricane · Post: # 719156Post **Hurricane** » Mon 06 Apr 2009 1:02pm

I say bring em on.

We can respect them as far as we need to but fear should not even be in the vocabulary if we are going to beat either side this year.

The best way to see where we are at as a contender is to play the best and I cant wait to lock horns with the best side of the last few years (Geelong) and the current champion (Hawthorn)

BANG BANG

skeptic · Post: # 719163Post **skeptic** » Mon 06 Apr 2009 1:11pm

would be a nice time to play both as they're down

Ghost Like · Post: # 719172Post **Ghost Like** » Mon 06 Apr 2009 1:29pm

skeptic wrote:would be a nice time to play both as they're down

Would rather we play either of them on that last day in September.

Play with purpose, play with intensity and play to our style and the fear may actually be coming from the other change room. We have nothing to lose, they have everything.

Con Gorozidis · Mon 06 Apr 2009 3:39pm

geelong - massively over-rated (media group think at its worse).

their midfield is fantastic BUT

their backline is good but ageing fast -

harley - old
hunt - injured for season
scarlett - getting older
milburn - getting older

and their forward line is ??? - who knows.

Hawks are good - but have SERIOUS injury concenrns that arent going to to just go away.

Teams to beat right now - Saints, Dogs, Blues, Pies.

I never thought I would say it but the top 6 are all Victorian teams.. I dont think there is any doubt about that. Bizarre!

InkerSaint · Post: # 719253Post **InkerSaint** » Mon 06 Apr 2009 5:17pm

The fact that this thread has not been met with scorn and derision speaks volumes. Saints fans sense a change.

Sainterman · Post: # 719263Post **Sainterman** » Mon 06 Apr 2009 5:44pm

InkerSaint wrote:The fact that this thread has not been met with scorn and derision speaks volumes. Saints fans sense a change.

Give ti time, I am sure it will happen! We wont see some of the usuals until we lose and I am sure we will get this bumped quick smart then!

Cairnsman · Post: # 719268Post **Cairnsman** » Mon 06 Apr 2009 5:53pm

The Hawks will not make the eight this year.

Solar · Post: # 719325Post **Solar** » Mon 06 Apr 2009 8:23pm

Cairnsman wrote:The Hawks will not make the eight this year.

now thats a big call

but if they struggle in the next month this may come to pass